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dementia in the elderly

Posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

Does anyone know why dementia is what I would call epidemic in the elderly? I'm in my 60's & I fear getting older because it seems most of the elderly have dementia in some form. From what I have seen eating healthy & exercise doesn't prevent it. I try to keep my brain active but I still forget things. Thanks.



Re: dementia in the elderly

Posted by Jayne S. [6666.3772] on June 21, 2007 at 20:22:26:

In Reply to: dementia in the elderly posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

eat more mustard, for the tumeric,,,,,and take Gingko.........

also, just read,,,,don't drink the tap water..........

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Re: dementia in the elderly

Posted by Jan DeCourtney (Happygal) [2062.3771] on June 21, 2007 at 21:02:00:

In Reply to: dementia in the elderly posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

Hi Linda,

My thought is probably most elderly need a lot of nutritional supplementation. I think first of all, they don't eat very much, and second of all, their bodies need more nutrition at this time. Eating healthy would be a start (what's your definition of healthy, though? Almost everyone I know thinks they eat a healthy diet regardless of what they eat) but nutritional supplementation would be critical, I believe.

I believe the 3LS is the good foundation, but the supplementation is very important.

Best wishes,
Jan

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Re: dementia in the elderly -- Archive in aging.

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on June 22, 2007 at 08:18:10:

In Reply to: dementia in the elderly posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

Linda,

This week's Science News has an article finally admitting the importance of nutrition for preserving brain chemistry.

One of the truths of our sensory reality is that we all eventually grow old and die. We can, however delay that inevitablity by healthy living.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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Re: dementia in the elderly

Posted by Tabby [15.2532] on June 22, 2007 at 15:58:45:

In Reply to: dementia in the elderly posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

The B vitamin complex is very important in brain function, especially B12. Most B12 comes from meat and needs a good supply of stomach acid to be digested and assimilated. As people get older, their stomach acid output decreases and they get less and less B12 from their diet (along with other vital nutrients!); even people on acid-reducers need to be aware of this--and those who've had parts of their stomachs or intestines removed for various medical reasons, too.

You can take B12 in oral form and absorb it, but it needs to be in a high enough dose--usually at least 1000 mcg/daily. Methylcobalamin is the type of B12 used by the brain, so it's good to look for that type when buying supplements. If you buy the cheapest and most common form, cyanocobalamin (as found in most vitamins), the liver first has to convert it into the co-enzyme forms used by the body--the other being adenosylcobalamin (aka Dibencozide), which is used by cells for energy production.

There is a study (you can google for it) done on nursing home patients showing what percentage was found to be deficient in B12.....and that's using old standards of what is considered low. In the US, the std range is 200-1000, so you wouldn't be considered low until you got to 200 or below (of whatever unit it is measured in--I forget). In Japan and some European countries (and a few docs here), it is recognized that anything below 500 can produce neurological symptoms! Wonder what the percentage would be of those nursing home patients, with the 500-1000 range being used, who would THEN be found deficient....

Along with good nutrition, exercise, SR, etc.......what you deep down believe will be your course in your "older age" is VERY important. Sickness and decline DO NOT have to be a part of aging or to prepare us for death. It is our birthright to be healthy until the day we pass on. If any one person can experience life/"old-age"/death that way (and MANY do), then any one of the rest of us can too!

Tabby

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Re: dementia in the elderly

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on June 23, 2007 at 12:45:40:

In Reply to: dementia in the elderly posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

in the newspaper column of Dr Peter Gott MD, he mentioned 3 things that mimic the symptoms of demetia-
B-12 deficiency
low cholesterol
prescription drug interaction

additional things I might add include
kidney problems
too low fat diet
hearing problems-I was amazed that they just assumed my MIL had dementia when she answered questions with non-sequitors. Simple fact was, she was mishearing the questions. Since laser cataract surgery is so good these days, many old people can SEE great, so, when med professionals get stupid answers to spoken questions, they should try writing down the question and seeing if they get a better answer.
A lot of dementia may be misdiagnosed other stuff.
Also, some demetia may be mad cow disease- there's a claim that we don't have it in the US, but that's disputed in the book, Diary of a Mad Cowboy.



Re: dementia in the elderly

Posted by Jayne [6666.3772] on June 24, 2007 at 18:52:50:

In Reply to: Re: dementia in the elderly posted by ANN [1003.516] on June 23, 2007 at 12:45:40:

Thanks for mentioning that ANN - you pass along the 'best info'!!!

How can you explain to someone that their 'low cholesterol' isn't the best thing!! I've said it before,,,but all I hear is, I will die if I don't take my Zocor!!

He won't listen anyway, but I've already advised,,,when too senile for me to handle,,,off to the 'big A' home you go!!!!!!!!!

I hope I don't sound too mean!!



Re: dementia in the elderly

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on June 24, 2007 at 20:57:15:

In Reply to: Re: dementia in the elderly posted by Jayne [6666.3772] on June 24, 2007 at 18:52:50:

nah, he can room with mine (if he's going to the VA home).

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My MOM>>> is on a lot of medication and.. also

Posted by Sedona [7871.362] on June 27, 2007 at 13:25:37:

In Reply to: dementia in the elderly posted by Linda [2790.1351] on June 21, 2007 at 18:30:59:

myself, I am not sure if
she has dementia
it certainly seems like it
at times
of course she is in her eighties
mid..

and has quite a mix of meds
and a heavy plate
looking after step-dad..


Sedona


she will not take any vitamins
nor take any wine

hard to get her to the GP
she has fallen x 3
I suggested a cane or a walker
but .. no..




Re: My MOM>>> is on a lot of medication and.. also

Posted by Jim H. [422.3129] on June 27, 2007 at 14:13:08:

In Reply to: My MOM>>> is on a lot of medication and.. also posted by Sedona [7871.362] on June 27, 2007 at 13:25:37:

Hi Sedona,

You are on familiar ground,
a trail of travail
on a gradient of grief.

So familiar,
I remember,
the dwindling faculties,
resistant pride.

It is not for nothing they call
Dementia (in all its forms)
the survivor's disease.

My heart goes out to you.

Jim H.

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