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Is the pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies?

Posted by Nutmeg on September 27, 2003 at 10:47:19:

My healer friend reminded me about that yesterday. Eat the suspected food on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, and compare your pulse before and 20 minutes after.

How does it compare to muscle self-testing where you hold the food and determine if you tip forward or backward?

Thanks,
Nutmeg



Re: Is the pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies?

Posted by Happygal on September 27, 2003 at 22:40:56:

In Reply to: Is the pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? posted by Nutmeg on September 27, 2003 at 10:47:19:

Hi Nutmeg,

I had someone do muscle testing for me for foods and she got some of them right, and some wrong. The only way I really found out what I could eat was by trial and error. The foods I am allergic to change on me sometimes so I continue to use trial and error, and I truly believe it is the best method. It can be a drag using this method when you have food reactions, but don't forget that Alka Seltzer Gold works for neutralizing the symptoms of the food reactions.

Although I don't use the pulse test, occasionally if I eat a wrong food, 20 minutes after eating, I can feel my heart rate increase. However, with other foods I have different reactions.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Happygal

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Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Archive in allergies.

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 28, 2003 at 06:46:51:

In Reply to: Is the pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? posted by Nutmeg on September 27, 2003 at 10:47:19:

Hi, Nutmeg.

Listen to Happygal.

In my opinion, "tipping", muscle testing (AK), pendulum and pulse testing all have their place in different individual's hands. Combining all of them would be better than any one of them alone. However, trial and error is still the most accurate although it takes more work to do it.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Nutmeg on September 28, 2003 at 12:11:04:

In Reply to: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Archive in allergies. posted by Walt Stoll on September 28, 2003 at 06:46:51:

Hi Dr. Stoll and Happygal,

See that's the problem....I never have any clear allergy symptoms after eating that I can relate to any particular food. No racing pulse, headaches, GI distress, redness or rashes, or runny nose, etc. The one exception (besides MSG, sugar, or any form of natural sweetener, which I now avoid like the plague), is rye. Whole grain rye, whole grain rye flour, or sprouted rye will all cause a pain flare-up the following day. But it's subtle enough that it took me a lot of trial and error to figure it out. I have fibromyalgia, LGS, hypoglycemia, and Wilson's thyroid syndrome.

Years ago (when I had raging candida) I did an elimination diet based on allergy tests and three separate 5-day water fasts, with similar muddy results. I'm a lot healthier than that now, but not where I'd like to be. A blood test I had a couple of years ago included some allergy markers and said I was allergic to dairy and soy, and equivocal on eggs, but I don't know about the accuracy fo that test. When I eliminate/reintroduce them I feel about the same.

In the past 5-6 years, I've experimented with eliminating dairy, oranges/citrus, eggs, and all grains for days or weeks, and up to 2 months at a time for dairy, and there is no clear return of symptoms after reintroduction, yet overall I felt crappier as time went on. Maybe my trials have not been long enough. I was completely off wheat for 4-5 years, and when I reintroduced it, there were no definite symptoms, although during the 4-5 years, when I ate wheat by accident once (supposed to be corn tortillas in a dish I ordered), I had bad intestinal cramps.

Now I'm doing a 2nd series of Rolfing sessions, continuing with focused massage to relieve neck, low back, knee, and trochanter area pain, have eliminated all fruit and sugars and increased protein snacks for hypoglycemia for about 3-1/2 weeks, eat a primarily protein, vegetable, diet with some grains, seeds, and nuts, started treatment with time-release T3 about 10 days ago for Wilson's thyroid syndrome, walk 30 minutes or more every day, do my SR, eat about 90-95% whole foods.

Since I started the treatment for low thyroid, I am sleeping a little more soundly and longer each night, with occasional dreams. The improved sleep means less pain and more energy, but I still hurt every day, still have some brain fog, nasal congestion/post-nasal drip, and fatigue. I'm planning to eliminate grains completely beginning this week. That should take care of most of the remaining refined foods (oils and carbs) I've been eating. Does it seem like grains could be the hidden problem here? I thought about going on the McFerran elimination diet, in hopes it would identify hidden allergies, but it's the requirement to eat trout or mackeral that keeps me from trying it. I've swallowed some pretty awful concoctions on the road to wellness, but the fish thing has me gagging in anticipation. Plus I don't want to go off my T3 now. Another possible missing link may be mercury toxicity. I've had all my amalgams out, but probably need to do more detoxification after my test results come back.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Nutmeg



Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Happygal on September 28, 2003 at 13:23:58:

In Reply to: Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions. posted by Nutmeg on September 28, 2003 at 12:11:04:

Hi Nutmeg,

Here's what comes to mind after reading your message. Suggestions, all. See what you think.

Hypoglycemia -- mine cleared up after going 100% perfect on the diet. Maybe that would help?

LGS -- mine cleared up after doing SR for 6+ months, plus I was perfect on the diet. I imagine that you have been doing SR twice a day for a long time by now. My recent improvement for the GI tract is taking Neem which is an ayurvedic herb. I've posted on this recently. Since it says it heals the gastrointestinal mucosa, it might help LGS, who knows. Might be worth a try.

Fibromyalgia -- My client who has FM always feels better when she stretches every day. She knows that if she doesn't stretch, she will feel worse. Personally, I know of only one thing that is better than daily full body stretching to alleviate muscle tension and pain. (That one things is SR -- but doing both is magic!) Anyway, here I go recommending full body stretching again.

Did you ever end up trying the vitamins? Recently I've been working with an article from the archives which I'll link below. I've started on 4 herbs from that article and think they are helping. Maybe you will find some gems there, too.

I didn't answer your food questions directly. That's because it doesn't sound clear to me that going on that diet is the next right step for you. If you think a food is awful, I surely wouldn't recommend that diet for you.

Going off grains for a while sounds like it might be a good experiment.

I'm glad to hear you're sleeping better.

Comments?

Best wishes,
Happygal



Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Nutmeg on September 29, 2003 at 00:06:50:

In Reply to: Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions. posted by Happygal on September 28, 2003 at 13:23:58:

Hi Happygal,

Thanks so much for all your thoughts.

I'm hopeful that eliminating grains will take care of a lot of problems for me--energy level, perhaps improved sleep, weight loss, hypoglycemia, and possibly even joint and muscle pain. I've been resisting it for a while, but now I'm ready.

I do take a few things for LGS--L-glutamine, Primal Defense at 6/day, and SeaCure when I remember. I should make an effort to remember the SeaCure more often, because it is supposed to really help. I do have to be careful with the L-glutamine, because any more than ~ 1 teaspoon/day will constipate me, even in divided doses. Thinking back on the LGS diet that Helping You posted, eliminating grains (or maybe only eating them soaked eventually) will help heal LGS as well. I'm not perfect on my SR, but I'm trying to be! Getting better every day at doing it, and having it be very effective. I will look into the neem--thanks for the tip.

I do a lot of stretching for my fibromyalgia. Would be stiff as a board without it, so I make some time for it, and get up from sitting often and move/stretch, especially after driving. Could always do better, though. It DOES help. I watch how much I lift, reach, and carry, too, because my massage therapist says that my neck hurts because I overdo with my arm and shoulder muscles. He is right. Now I have to work on my chronic groin pulls because I know they affect my low back and make my pelvis, hips, trochanter, and knee unstable and painful. After I'm done with the Rolfing, I plan to try Neuro-Cranial Restructuring again. I think I'm ready, or will be by November.

I didn't try the megadosing with vitamins yet. I spent some time reading Hofer's books, and then the Brain Chemistry Diet, but had to take them back. Copied some info from both authors before I returned the books. I was starting the thyroid therapy, so I didn't want to tax my body with too much at once. I have an even worse problem with niacin now. I finally had to stop taking my MCS (liver support) supplement because even the *3 mg* of niacin & niacinimide in each capsule gave me a huge flush. I know Dr. Stoll says this probably means I really need it, but I need to be at the top of my game right now, and just can't afford to feel crappy for 3-4 hours every day after I take it. I'm really enjoying feeling relatively well right now! I can't imagine what I would feel like if I took a couple of grams!

Thanks for that post you linked for me. I printed it all out for later reading. I'm a little leary of taking herbs every day, but I will give it some thought and a good review.

I still think there is something metabolic going on that has yet to be fully addressed, so I continue to search inside myself and out there for clues and compounding factors.

I know there is still an emotional component to all of this that has not yet been cleared. I'm still peeling back the layers, which is really good. I told the Rolfer this summer about my past traumas, and that helps him treat me more effectively and explains a lot about my reactions to his work. The Rolfing treatments bring out some of the buried fears and residual pain from the traumas of the past, and I feel so much better after some tears and a good emotional release. I'm going see a chiropractor to start a new therapy this week, Neuro-Emotional Therapy (NET). Deitrich Klinghardt developed this and teaches it to a lot of healers and alternative practitioners. I've had a little of it with my doctor and another chiropractor, and it seems to be very effective at releasing stored unhealthy emotions. If I need to, I will also work with the spiritual healer again, or have more sessions with my counselor.

Whatever it takes to heal, I will do it. I just trust the universe to put the right opportunities in my path, and my own instincts to keep me safe and tell me when is a good time.

Thanks so much, Happygal. I'm so glad I found this board and regained my life.

Nutmeg



Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 29, 2003 at 06:05:34:

In Reply to: Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions. posted by Nutmeg on September 29, 2003 at 00:06:50:

Thanks, Nutmeg.

Just several comments:

1. You are an example of the benefits of "never stop learning and trying".
2. Whenever there are a number of approaches to anything (like testing for hyupersensitivities, for example) it means that there is NO ONE THING that works for anyone or everyone.
3. The "engrams" described by Rolfers and Hellerworkers may be how your hypersensitivities are stored!
4. I agree about your metabolic statement.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Nutmeg on September 29, 2003 at 23:35:57:

In Reply to: Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions. posted by Walt Stoll on September 29, 2003 at 06:05:34:

That helps a lot, Dr. Stoll. We are amazing creatures, aren't we? One thing this healing journey has taught me is that we always have more to learn and experience. I'm going to have to do more reading about engrams & related topics, as I find it fascinating. Could probably write a book about it myself :)

Many thanks,

Nutmeg

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Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Happygal on September 30, 2003 at 10:37:53:

In Reply to: Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions. posted by Nutmeg on September 29, 2003 at 00:06:50:

Hi Nutmeg,

I had two thoughts for you. One is try the no-flush niacin.

The second is about herbs. I had to rethink my use of herbs. Most of the herbs I used seemed just to temporarily relieve symptoms. In the long run, they didn't help much and I sure don't want to become dependent upon anything. However what I've learned about using supplements, is that some are basically nutrition and using them over a long period of time actually rebuilds and restores the body's correct function. That is a really good use of herbs.

I'm not sure if these two thoughts address your issues or not, but here they are! Just hoping to see you find your answers and do better and better.

Best wishes,
Happygal



Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions.

Posted by Nutmeg on September 30, 2003 at 11:35:44:

In Reply to: Re: Pulse method an accurate way to screen for food allergies? Need suggestions. posted by Happygal on September 30, 2003 at 10:37:53:

Hi Happygal,

Thanks! I will look into the healing herbs and re-examine my opinion if something looks promising.

I did try a small dose of the no-flush niacin, and it got me anyway. Most unpleasant. I know people say it fades after a couple of days, but that just doesn't fit into my schedule right now, since each reaction lasts 3-4 hours. Maybe sometime when I can be home for a week I will attempt it again. I did buy some nutritional yeast a few weeks ago as a source for B vitamins. Maybe I'll work up my nerve to pop the lid on that huge can and give it a try.

Thanks, as always, for your helpful ideas.

Wishing you the best,
Nutmeg

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