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Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 15:19:57:

I desperately need some advice. I had a cat for ten years whom I lost about six months ago. I wasn't allergic to her. About two weeks ago, I decided to adopt two cats from a shelter and ever since then have been having terrible allergic symptoms. However, I'm also detoxing from yeast and a few other things. I know this could be a contributing factor. I don't want to have to take these two cats back to the shelter. I just adore them, but what to do? Does anybody have any suggestions? BTW. I've had cats all my life with no problems. I adopted all of them as kittens. The two I have now are adults. Would that make any difference?

Any advice anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Naya



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Earthgrl on November 18, 2003 at 16:31:01:

In Reply to: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 15:19:57:

Hi there,

I have two kitties myself. I got the book "The New Natural Cat Book" and it asserts that if you feed them a whole, raw foods diet (it has recipes), you will not be allergic to them. It could be that your shelter kitties are just in poor health, and that's why they are producing allergens. Try feeding them right for awhile and see if it gets better, and meanwhile don't let them in your bedroom at all, is my suggestion.

-Earthgrl



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by ktj on November 18, 2003 at 17:54:05:

In Reply to: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 15:19:57:

Hi Naya,
They may have had flea dips at the shelter. You might try giving them baths to see if there's any improvement. You could also try muscle testing to see if you're reactive to either of them, but this doesn't seem likely if you've had cats all your life. Hope this helps---
ktj



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by crissy b on November 18, 2003 at 20:12:51:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Earthgrl on November 18, 2003 at 16:31:01:

I've been a vet tech for nearly 20 years, and one of the easiest ways to help with cat allergies is regular bathing of the cats. Most people are allergic to the saliva, and bathing removes that, plus it will remove any substance the cat might have gotten into at the shelter, including dips and cage cleaning chemicals.

usually bathing once a month will help.



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Naya to ktj on November 18, 2003 at 20:27:57:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by ktj on November 18, 2003 at 17:54:05:

Hi! One cat has Advantage on her and the other Revolution. I seem to react more to the one with Revolution, but she also happens to be the long-haired one - and I have to admit, my favorite. I thought of bathing them. Maybe that would help. After all, they had all the other cats on them.

My former cat was a Maine Coon whom I had bathed and groomed on a regular basis. No problems with her whatsoever.

I know we had a discussion about this on this board a while ago, but could you recommend a natural flea killer? I really wonder if the chemcial ones are also bothering me. Thanks for your help!



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 20:32:59:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by crissy b on November 18, 2003 at 20:12:51:

Hi Crissy. Thanks for the tip. What do you recommend in place of Advantage and Revolution,i.e., something more natural and organic? BTW, they weren't in cages, but in a big room.



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Nutmeg on November 19, 2003 at 09:52:03:

In Reply to: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 15:19:57:

Hi Naya,

Blessings to you for rescuing these two and giving them a home!

Do they go outside? I know that's a huge controversy in the pet world, but if they do, they could be bringing the outdoors in with them, especially the long-haired one. They really are much safer indoors, and they will adjust to being indoor-only if they were used to being out. Even an outdoor enclosure can be used to keep them out of grassy and pollen-infused areas while still giving them fresh air and sunshine.

I don't know how true it is, but I've heard that it's possible to be allergic to some cats and not others because of their particular body chemistry--saliva and dander. I've also read that just rinsing them in distilled water every week or two can help keep the dander to a minimum.

There is also a spray called Allerpet-C (a formula for cats) that is supposed to help. I don't like the idea of spraying something on the cat all the time, and introducing more chemicals into your home environment, so I would suggest trying everything else first.

Wishing you the best with this!
Nutmeg



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by ktj on November 19, 2003 at 11:08:22:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya to ktj on November 18, 2003 at 20:27:57:

Hi Naya,
It's probably the Advantage and Revolution that's bothering you. You might even want to take them to a professional groomer to have them bathed so you don't expose yourself even more.

This is a simple flea control routine that works well and is nontoxic (and I have 7 cats, in Florida!):
Vacuum carpeting
Sprinkle Borax laundry detergent over carpeting
Use clean broom to work detergent into fibers
Vacuum again in 2-3 days
Repeat in 2 weeks

Hope this helps---
ktj


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Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Naya to Nutmeg on November 19, 2003 at 12:39:10:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Nutmeg on November 19, 2003 at 09:52:03:

Hi Nutmeg! So nice to hear from you again. Somehow I knew you'd respond to this post. The cats are strictly indoors, so that's not the problem. I suspect the chemicals in the flea control may be a factor. I remember both I and my former cat didn't feel too well after I would apply that stuff to her.

I have to confess that for months now I had been very bad in some aspects of my diet, especially having 2-4 drinks a week, so my LGS is probably worse - which could be a factor. Of course, due to my lack of self control, I also have the candida back again. So all these things could be contributing to my reaction to the cats, although, as I said, I've never had problems before with any of my cats. I have heard though that some cats do produce more allergens than others, but I've had seven cats throught my life!

Thanks for your advice and I'll give your suggestions a try.
I've also put myself on a strict anti-candida diet, so I'm probably still having die-off.

Best wishes always,
Naya

P.S. How are you doing these days?



Thanks, Earthgrl! nmi

Posted by Naya on November 19, 2003 at 12:42:01:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Earthgrl on November 18, 2003 at 16:31:01:

nmi

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Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Nutmeg on November 19, 2003 at 16:12:23:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya to Nutmeg on November 19, 2003 at 12:39:10:

Hi Naya,

Great to hear from you, too! Iíve been wondering how youíre doing. Sorry to hear youíve had some negative effects of backsliding. I had some ill effects of doing something similar a while back. Where does that self-destructive behavior come from?! Itís so hard to be good when you feel deprived, I guess, and sometimes the short-term rewards of cheating beat out the long-term benefits of being good. At least it seems that way for a while.

Iíve been doing very well lately. Been working hard on emotional causes/contributors to my illnesses and pains, and been having very good results with that. Some stuff that I was expecting came up, but also a lot of stuff I wasnít expecting has surfaced. Iíve had a few breakthroughs and feel like Iím getting close to resolution for the lingering pain!

About them kittiesÖhere are a couple links to the Holisticat website. There should be some good ideas in the articles and archived posts about natural flea treatments. The growth regulators seem like they could cause some problems for sensitive people, and probably not good for kitties either, if their mode of action is as a neurotoxin, and Iím sure there are chemicals in the carrier oils. Fortunately, even after having 9 cats in my adult life, Iíve never had to treat anyone for fleas, so I donít have any direct advice for you. I think the key is to keep them out of your house and therefore off your cats and Iíve heard that borax-in-the-carpeting suggestion before. Some say itís harmful to cats if they ingest it, but I would worry more about the topicals. Fleas probably donít die out in the winter where you are, like they do up north, so youíve got a year-round problem that you have to treat.

http://www.holisticat.com articles and FAQs
http://www.escribe.com/pets/holisticat/ current and archived messages

You can sign up and receive posts by e-mail, or just log on and read. I had a quick look at one of the articles of compiled posts, and FYI, Anitra Frasierís Vita-mineral mix is available ready-made in a jar now, and I donít believe either pyrethrum or pyrethrins are safe for cats, and neither are any essential oils or the herbs in herbal flea collars. Iíve heard that trick of using containers of water with dish soap and a light on the floor as a flea trap, but donít know anyone personally whoís tried it. Cheap and easy to try, and it just might work.

Let us know how it goes and take good care of yourself. You CAN do the diet, and all that goes with it you know! ;-)

Nutmeg



Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by crissy b on November 19, 2003 at 17:59:38:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 20:32:59:

Hi there,
I personally like frontline. Its the safest in my opinion, and kills both fleas and ticks.

You do need some sort of protection, esp against ticks as ticks spread deadly cytauxzoonosis to cats. Once the cat contracts this they almost always die within 2 to 5 days. We had a number die over the summer. It destroys their liver, spleen and immune systems. Its a horrible way for them to die.

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Re: Cat allergies - HELP!

Posted by Donna on November 19, 2003 at 20:04:59:

In Reply to: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Naya on November 18, 2003 at 15:19:57:

This may sound weird, but I had the same problem. Years ago, I used to live with cats with no symptons. Then I gradually became more and more allergic to them, and had to give them away.
A couple of months ago I started taking primal defense by Garden of Life, for another health problem. My allergies to cats, dust, etc., has since decreased 80%. Thinking back, my allergies seemed to have flared up gradually over the years subsequent to the use of antibiotics. I only took 2 bottle of the capsules. I am simply amazed. I have done many things to alleviate my severe allergies over the years, and nothing has helped me more than primal defense.

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Posted by Walt Stoll on November 20, 2003 at 09:11:14:

In Reply to: Re: Cat allergies - HELP! posted by Nutmeg on November 19, 2003 at 16:12:23:

Thanks, Nutmeg.

Namaste`

Walt

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