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way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by
jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

To whom it may concern

I really need you help. I have a son who is 14 years old and has a
cough that he can't get rid of. He has had it now for just over two
months. When he first got it, three days later we took him to the
doctor's to make sure he didn't have strep, as he has had it 3-4
times in the past, and two years ago he had pneumonia so we
don't wait long or take chances. The doctor took an exam along
with a rapid strep test and her final conclusion was he had a sinus
infection, and wrote a prescription for antibiotics (Z-pak). This was
on a Friday night and I asked if he could hold out taking the
antibiotics for acouple of days and she said if he's still coughing by
Monday start him then, which is what I did. His cough seemed to
worsen
so we took him to another doctor for a second opinion and to have
him ex-rayed, and he said that he didn't have a sinus infection but
had a virus. He wrote a prescription for Drituss HD Elixir cough
med. Both said lungs were clear. This was back in the early part on
Nov. We took him back just before Christmas as there was no sign
of change just to make sure his lungs were still clear (reason for
that was, he wanted to go snow-boarding real bad so we sent him
to his Karate class that he hasn't been to since he came down with
the cough, thinking that if he was well enough to handle that we
would consider it. He almost passed out within the first 30 minutes.

By now this has been going on for nearly 2 months, and most of
his coughing is at night time so he wasn't getting a good nights
sleep nor was my wife and I. And every time we hear him cough, it
seems to hurt us as much as him.

We then decided to take him to an alternative doctor. Our family
doctor of 23 years (Dr. Khalsa who retired 4 years ago, was an MD
but was holistic. We called him, he saw Jereme and said he was
okay just a cough. I then took him to our Chiropractor, who seems
to have a lot of knowledge, he gave him some adjustments, and
supplements (DSF Formula, Complete Omega 3 Essentials and
Complete Omega 3 Co-factors, all by Nutri-West and
Pneumotrophin PMG by Standard Process Inc). He was getting
better, a week had passed so we let him go snow-boarding in the
park by our home (small hill were kids go sledding). He was okay,
4-5 days later he went again, he was okay, cough was rare. I then
took him to the ski resort, he was still okay. Then 3 days ago I let
him go with the school ski program, and yesterday he started all
over again and this morning he has a sore throat. My first question,
he's 14 year old boy, thinks he's cool and walks around when it's 5
degrees (Michigan weather) out with his jacket open and in a t-
shirt, could that be part of the problem? Although I see kids
walking around in that same weather with no jackets at all, some in
shorts. The Chiro says his thing (weakness) is his respiratory
system. We knew that, second question, how do we change that?

Our health style -
We are not wealthy (financially), we live pay check to pay check so
it's not easy but he eats better then all his friends who mostly get
pizza, processed meats and pop. Yet misses more school then the
rest of them. Most of our friends think we are nuts, we take vitamins
(not everyday) and eat organic produce (at least some) what we
can afford. They all say why do you give him those vitamins when
they don't work. We even tried colloidal silver the whole month of
Oct.

We can't afford to do much more, so we really need help on how
to change this situation. I believe it can be done, even on a low
budget. So my last question, any suggestions?

Thank you.

Sincerely
Jerry





Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on January 18, 2005 at 10:24:35:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Jerry,

Your sons immune system is not working like it should..Too many antibiotics coupled with a poor diet for many years..His digestion and bowels are cloged..But then you have already posted this..Sounds like you want to do something about it but the real question is , does he want to do something about his health? You can lead the horse to water but you can't make him drink..Is HE sick of being sick?

Silver Fox!

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Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on January 18, 2005 at 11:07:35:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

dairy and gluten grains (wheat, rye, oats, and barley) are two very possible causes for this. Try switching to brown rice, millet, and cornmeal as your family's grains for a few weeks and cut out dairy to see if it makes a difference.



Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by jbry [348.479] on January 18, 2005 at 11:52:30:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Please do not laugh at my suggestion...it is worth a try. I had a bad case of cold/flu a couple of weeks ago. My cough was so persistant - that I thought I had broken a rib from the coughing spells and even threw up with them - feeling as if my brain would explode! A "small voice" said Vicks Vapor Rub (I am alone and could not get out of my house for meds...and the Alkazelser + was not working)... I found a jar in the back of the med cabinet...slathered it over my chest and throat... The cough quieted down within five minutes. Also my mother had an allergy with runny nose and cough...I called her and told her "Hey, give the Vicks vapor rub a try". Within one day...her cough went away and her "allergy" has cleared up.

I don't know if this will work for your son...but it worked for me and my mother. I wish I had used the Vicks at the first of the cold, rather than all the misery that the cough caused for a few days. The cold meds didn't even come close to helping. An old-fashioned remedy that I had forgotten about... jbry


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Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by WOW [1317.65] on January 18, 2005 at 12:47:20:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Hi Jerry,
My husband and I oth just got over a very bad flu with a very bad cough. We both took an herb Elderberry, 2 capsils twice a day (it is antiviral and actually kills virus) and were amazed how well it worked. My husband can't stop boasting how great the stuff is. However, we eat a very healthy diet too so you might at the same time make sure that your son eats foods with most possible nutrition to boost immune system and no junk food.

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Re: way to long cold, cough, why? (MYCOPLASMA or Fungus maybe?)

Posted by Ron [1540.1671] on January 18, 2005 at 13:27:47:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Hi Jerry,

Since a mycoplasma lung infection can not be cultured, doctors can easily call it a VIRUS and look so smart.
Fortunately, they also frequently prescribe a broad spectrum
antibiotic to cover their a$$es and it usually works.

Mycoplasma is a droplet borne cross between a virus and a bacteria, which takes up residence within your host cells
and escapes all but the PCR (DNA typing) testing.

Your son may have this and he may not be producing antibodies to it, so he is remaining sick.
His antibodies can be tested to see what is activated.

It may also be a fungal infection which could remain active
until it is treated. Has the doc considered this?

Although this is more common in the elderly, living in seniors homes, it seem to be affecting more of the population.

You need to rule these things out and that is the best approach. Denying the proper testing when it is AVAILABLE,
is akin to hiding under the kitchen table when someone says the sky is falling.

here is a link which should help.




Re: way to long cold, cough, why? (MYCOPLASMA or Fungus maybe?)

Posted by Ron [1540.1671] on January 18, 2005 at 13:59:55:

In Reply to: Re: way to long cold, cough, why? (MYCOPLASMA or Fungus maybe?) posted by Ron [1540.1671] on January 18, 2005 at 13:27:47:

Hi Again,

If the cost of Zithromax is too much, consider the cost
of years of suffering and damage to lung tissue.

You could also try a long course of a cheap old med called
Doxycycline (which may not work on mycoplasma)
The doc can also pick out a more effective cheaper med once he
looks it up.

Ron

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Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 19, 2005 at 09:41:26:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Hi, Jerry.

This is NOT an infection, bacterial OR "viral". You know how docs are: if they cannot figure out what it is, they say it is a "virus" hoping that it will take care of itself. Then they prescribe an antibiotic (even though they know that antibiotics do nothing against a "virus") so the prescription will get the credit when the person gets well all by himself.

This is an allergy until proven otherwise. See the allergy archives to start. Start keeping a record of his temperature taken several times a day (at the same time): upon arising, before supper and at bedtime.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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a little story

Posted by Ms. D. [634.1713] on January 19, 2005 at 10:20:06:

In Reply to: Re: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by ANN [1003.516] on January 18, 2005 at 11:07:35:

Here's a little story that illustrates ANN's suggestions. When I met my husband, his daughter, who was 5 years old at the time, coughed all the time. She would have "colds" for two or three weeks at a time and then stop coughing for a few days or a week and then start coughing all over again. She often would have horrible coughing fits at night that would wake her up. She also often got ear infections and throat infections. The doctors kept her on an antihistamine, decongestant, and codeine cough medication all the time along with periodic antiobiotics for the "infections." Within a couple of years, a doctor decided she had asthma and wanted to add an asthma medication and inhaler to her med. regimine. That was before I know what I know now!

After some reading, we elminated dairy and wheat from her diet. Guess what? The coughing stopped all together. She went from being sick all the time to maybe getting one cold a year.

Unfortunately, now she is a teenager and eats whatever she feels like. I rarely buy wheat or dairy products for our household, but she eats them often at school and friends' houses (she rarely eats at home because I won't buy the junk she wants to eat). Now she gets frequent colds again and has a chronic cough, though not as bad as when she was little.



Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by Sally [2119.10] on January 19, 2005 at 18:11:26:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Have you tried a bronchiodilater of some kind? Our son also had a constant cough and the pediatrician said it was a form of ashma which disappeared after a while but I think it was theophylline we gave him. Not sure if Walt would approve of this but it was a long time ago before the ...vents everyone uses now. It stopped his coughing.

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Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by WildCard [15.179] on January 19, 2005 at 18:44:55:

In Reply to: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by jerry W [712.566] on January 18, 2005 at 09:56:21:

Jerry,
This might be one possibility you haven't considered.

What is the air quality in your home? Have you done any remodeling or construction recently? Installed new carpet? My daughter developed a severe cough and labored breathing after we had work done on the house. We thought it was a virus or asthma. The doctors couldn't find anything. After we put 2 and 2 together, we installed an air purifier and her problems went away and haven't returned. Also, is your son eating real vitamin A foods to build his immune system?


WildCard



Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by Sally [2119.10] on January 19, 2005 at 23:17:13:

In Reply to: Re: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by WildCard [15.179] on January 19, 2005 at 18:44:55:

Wildcard, you just reminded me of Kawasaki's Disease. Some people came down with it after shampooing their carpets. I guess the drying carpets contaminated the household environment.



Re: a little story about chronic cough and hypersensitivity. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 20, 2005 at 08:55:26:

In Reply to: a little story posted by Ms. D. [634.1713] on January 19, 2005 at 10:20:06:

Thanks, Ms. D.

Typical story. I hope others will take it to heart. Certainly the average allopathic doc would be the last to suggest it.

Walt

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Re: way to long cold, cough, why?

Posted by WildCard [15.179] on January 21, 2005 at 05:42:12:

In Reply to: Re: way to long cold, cough, why? posted by Sally [2119.10] on January 19, 2005 at 23:17:13:

Good point. Carpets and household cleaning chemicals are two major sources of indoor pollution and definitely affect our health.

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