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took an unperscribed antidepressant

Posted by
M on September 19, 2002 at 00:07:38:

I know this was dumb and Ill never do it again believe
me, but Ive been feeling so depressed lately and have
classic symptoms. One night I felt so so down that I
took one of my brothers anti-depressants (Effexor XR) I
didnt notice any difference that night but the following
THREE days were hell. I felt so much worse, the
closest to suicidal Ive ever been. Does anyone know
why one pill would make me that much worse? I was
told once that if you took an antidpressant you didnt
need you would just get hyper or manic. Im not sure
what to make of it.



Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant

Posted by Sue on September 19, 2002 at 02:39:39:

In Reply to: took an unperscribed antidepressant posted by M on September 19, 2002 at 00:07:38:

I'm glad you realise it wasn't a great idea. However, even people who have been prescribed this medication can get bad reactions to them. I have tried two (prescribed) antidepressants in the past and both made me feel horrendous. With one of them I struggled on for months, trying to get past the initial side effects, but came to the conclusion that it just wasn't for me. Do you have any cognitive therapists in your area? That is what I have found most useful for depression.

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Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant

Posted by just me on September 19, 2002 at 04:28:36:

In Reply to: took an unperscribed antidepressant posted by M on September 19, 2002 at 00:07:38:

Shrink type meds can cause significant problems initially. I was prescibed zoloft for anxiety, and it caused much worse anxiety than I had ever had without it.

If you are sure you are over the effects of zoloft, you might consider trying st. john's wort from the health food store. It can interact with meds, so read the description of it and use the med interaction checker at a site like www.drugstore.com first. I have found it very helpful - a pill a day or a few days or a week lifts me out of a mild ot moderate depression and I don't need it for quite some time after that. IMHO, it is better than heavy duty pharmaceuticals.



Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant

Posted by Jon on September 19, 2002 at 09:28:41:

In Reply to: took an unperscribed antidepressant posted by M on September 19, 2002 at 00:07:38:

Check the brain chemistry and essential oils archives on Dr. Stoll's site. Even if the SSRI's would "work" for you, (they don't for many) one pill was not going to do the trick. It takes weeks for the stuff to have any positive effect. My advice would be to practice wellness and try to increase your Omega-3 fatty acids (essential oil) according to Dr. Stoll's advice. If you want a much safer and faster relief, check out some info on 5-HTP or SAMe. You can purchase these at any health food store.

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Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant

Posted by Anon on September 19, 2002 at 11:33:23:

In Reply to: Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant posted by just me on September 19, 2002 at 04:28:36:

St. john's wort can build up in the system, in addition to possibly causing epileptic seizures if you take too much for YOUR system to handle. Be very careful, as "just me" stated, and cautious if you are going to try this remedy. Moderation is important.

The wellness/SR will help a great deal. Try to begin an exercise program (hard to do when you are feeling this much depression!). Take a walk around the block instead of resting (assuming you are fairly tired a lot of the time). Even if you come back and retreat to your bedroom, you still will have gotten exercise. Bike riding would be great, too. Anything to get you out of the house, get your blood flowing and oxygen level up.

Buy a few relaxation tapes to play when you are resting. It will help soothe your mind and hopefully fill you with comforting thoughts. Read the archives on skilled relaxation (SR).

I kept a journal when I was in your state. It was only to record what I did (like a walk, cleaned A bathroom, slept) and it helped me to see a pattern, and it also helped me to see when I began to improve - something you will not readily see on your own.

Bless you


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Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant

Posted by
alan on September 20, 2002 at 04:27:36:

In Reply to: took an unperscribed antidepressant posted by M on September 19, 2002 at 00:07:38:

i once borrowed some of my wife's prozac, and it completely fixed my chronic depression. i was lucky. i had no side effects other than the typical headache/stiff neck for about a week. i then had to fake symptoms to get my own prescription from my shrink at my hmo, and have been very happily on prozac for several years. my body chemistry doesn't produce enough seratonin, and P helps me keep it at a high enough level to be successful and comfortable. other kinds of antidepressants i've tried didn't work as well, and prozac has made me a poster-child of success for my doc.
there are many sides to this kind of story, and wholistic isn't the right choice for everyone. one friend of mine discovered that her body chemistry makes her about three times as sensitive to nearly any medicine she ever needs, but she always forgets, and goes through hell until i remind her, and she cuts the dose to 1/3 of the original prescription, and then she's fine. this works for her for everything from aspirin to nyquil to antianxiety meds.

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Re: took an unperscribed antidepressant (Archive in brain chemistry.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 20, 2002 at 07:22:24:

In Reply to: took an unperscribed antidepressant posted by M on September 19, 2002 at 00:07:38:

Hi, M.

Listen to Jon.

Your brain chemistry was already hurting and you just threw a monkey wrench into the works. I agree with everyone else that you would be as likely to have a bad response to anything that a physician prescribed since it is the age of "trail and error" medicine so far as this kind of medication is concerned.

Pharmacogenomics, the science of determining the medication's effect before trying it, is just in it's infancy!

Hope this helps.

Walt

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