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Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Haley on October 19, 2002 at 15:03:08:

Dr. Stoll,

I've read that anxiety disorders, depression, OCD, obesity all have one thing in common: lack of serotonin. What most experts recommend in that case are supplements or even drugs that increase serotonin like 5-HTP but what causes serotonin deficiency in the first place? or even other neurotransmitter deficiencies like GABA and dopamin? For someone who has these disorders, wouldn't it be better to look for the inderlying causes?

My father suffered from agoraphobia and panic disorder for 6 or 7 years before I was born. It went away on its own through exercising more and practicing relaxation. Two of his brothers died of alcoholism...they were probably very unhappy or had some type of nutritional deficiency because you don't become an alcoholic for nothing. One of my father's sister's commited suicide. I am personally struggling with bouts of anxiety also although I never touched alcohol or drugs and I never will. One of my step-sister's has suffered from depression as a teenager ( she's my dad's daughter). So I can see that there is a definate genetic pattern on my father's side...but what should I do? What's causing it?

Thanks!



Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Rudy on October 19, 2002 at 15:25:34:

In Reply to: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Haley on October 19, 2002 at 15:03:08:

Anxiety disorders, depression, OCD, agoraphobia: aren't these all psychological disorders? Maybe psychoanalysis is the answer?



Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Haley on October 19, 2002 at 15:55:36:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Rudy on October 19, 2002 at 15:25:34:

Rudy,

I know that all these are psychological disorders but contrary to popular belief, the mind and body are related. Psychological disorders are caused by biological/physical abnormalities ( nutritional deficiencies, toxins, stress, genetics etc.)

Doctors usually seperate the mind and body as being two different things and they treat the symptoms of the illness with drugs.

For example, schizophrenia which is a serious disorder is usually treated with powerful drugs like lithium ( or maybe that's bipolar)...anyways, I saw a show once where this guy who had suffered from schizophrenia for 15 years was using high doses of pure fish oil and had an improvement of 75%. I also believe that fish oil and other nutrients are being tested for the treatment of psychological disorders.




Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Rudy on October 19, 2002 at 16:04:06:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Haley on October 19, 2002 at 15:55:36:

Haley,

Schizophrenia is a disease of the brain, not a neurosis. Psychological disorders aren't (necessarily) 'biological/physical' in origin; they can be a consequence of experience/ upbringing. Someone who suffers a nervous breakdown after the death of a relative doesn't have anything physically wrong with them.



Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by
Gregory on October 19, 2002 at 19:13:59:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Rudy on October 19, 2002 at 15:25:34:

Causes unknown.

Speculation centers around some of the following:

1. Brain chemistry imbalance caused during pregnancy.

2. Habitual/Chronic stress.

3. Environmental factors.

Strictly speaking thses are ALL brain chemistry imbalances which MANIFEST as psychological disturbances.
That is to say they look like psychological distrubances because that is where the seat of personality
is. If it were a neurophysical chemical imbalance, then you might see palsy, tremors or some sort of physical
disturbance. Whether hereditay genetics or something created in this lifetime, the chances are 100% that it can
be overcome, without having to resort to powerful and harmful drugs.



Lightwalking,
Gregory


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Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by cris on October 19, 2002 at 22:43:48:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Rudy on October 19, 2002 at 16:04:06:

Rudy, that is a short-sighted statement, considering the strss-related chemical processes a traumatic experience can bring about. Also, there is much evidence that all expressions of personality can be ultimately traced to chemical and electromagnetic interactions within a physical brain. To say something is a psychological as opposed to chemical problem, is mere refusal to descend into the labyrinth intercellular connections among neurons, with their concomitant cellular, subcellular and molecular components. If you would rather inhabit a belief system lodged solely in the macro-world, that is fine, but at least acknowledge that something must be mediating the interactions between experience and personality. It is not just a case of a black box with an input and output capability.



Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 20, 2002 at 08:31:21:

In Reply to: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Haley on October 19, 2002 at 15:03:08:

Hi, Haley.

Since we are not yet as smart as Mother Nature, only serious wellness will resolve this genetic susceptibility.

See the brain chemistry archives. Also you might read the book: "The Second Brain" by Dr Gershon.

Walt

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Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? (Archive in brain chemistry.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 20, 2002 at 08:34:36:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Rudy on October 19, 2002 at 15:25:34:

Thanks, Rudy.

Old thinking.

We were taught in medical school, 40 years ago, that everything was psychological. Now it is known that the opposite it true: Everything is chemical and the psychological changes only come because the brain chemistry messes up one's life.

Walt

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Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by but first on October 20, 2002 at 09:09:10:

In Reply to: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by Haley on October 19, 2002 at 15:03:08:

SR, proper nutrition and exercise are critical and essential components in being well and staying well. Practice these three things faithfully,(so you slip up--big deal-- just don't GIVE UP!) and watch your life take new directions! Life can be rough, but do work on keeping the psyche healthy!

Herbal supplements that target depression and anxiety are useful, and DO WORK, when symptoms interfere with daily functioning. Talk therapy can help when symptoms are out of control, and when assistance is needed redefining and restructuring one's life. Talk therapy is also comforting, and provides a type of security and relief, when conditions are extreme(as in the case of your Dad and in my own experience.) These conditions, depression, anxiety, panic, phobia,PTSD give true meaning to the phrase LIVING HELL.

SR, proper nutrition, and exercise is required for optimal mind-body-spirit balance. Life has it's seasons for us all--and stressors! Talk Therapy and pills can vanish symptoms for periods of time, but, trust me on this--they come back bigger and badder with time. Protect yourself NOW with Wellness, BEFORE the pressures and stressors of life set in and wreak havoc. You may need assistance finding the proper diet for you personal chemistry. That's an excellent place to begin!

Warning: if you do decide on antipressants, be warned that they CAN and DO affect all areas of your existance. They cause far worse damage to the mind and body than the illness. If you think you have problems now, know that the antidepressants will cause many new problems, and are tougher to deal with! They may have their place for those who cannot function and are seriously debilitated, but I wonder. Antidepressants are a quick fix, but (IMO) they CHANGE the organism, not HEAL it! They certianly DO NOT provide or restore HEALTH (mind-body-sprit).

Good Luck and Be Well!
A Survivor of Depression-Anxiety-Phobia-PTSD and Alcoholism.



Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by secret admirer on October 20, 2002 at 09:36:11:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by cris on October 19, 2002 at 22:43:48:

cris, that was absolute masterful.

my hero.

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Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Rudy on October 20, 2002 at 12:05:00:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by cris on October 19, 2002 at 22:43:48:

Someone suffering from depression is clearly going to have low levels of serotonin. That doesn't mean, however, that it's a lack of serotonin that causing them to be depressed. Thus, giving them drugs that artificially raise levels of serotonin will make them happier (less depressed) in the short term, but won't cure their depression.

If their depression is the result of trauma then the only way of curing the depression is to resolve the trauma at an emotional level.

Perhaps it is possible that in some people serotonin is not released in sufficient quantities at the appropriate times (following particular experiences in life), and this causes their depression. If this is true then it is not a psychological problem, and as such a somatic cure sure be sought.

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Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency??

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2002 at 07:55:42:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by but first on October 20, 2002 at 09:09:10:

Thanks, but!

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? (Archive in brain chem.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2002 at 07:57:20:

In Reply to: Re: Causes Of Serotonin Deficiency?? posted by but first on October 20, 2002 at 09:09:10:

NMI

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