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Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Is there a test? What does it involve? Can any doctor do it, a GP, etc?

I'm very concerned because I'm beginning to exhibit complete memory loss about things. I'm 51 and in menopause, which I know can also cause memory loss. However, this is beginning to affect my job and my life. I'm scared.



Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Ron [181.81] on July 31, 2004 at 10:33:15:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Hi Cloud,

Menopause is certainly enough to distract anyone from
remembering important things... Have you considered HRT
to calm the symptoms? If that works, then your fears about
alzheimers were fo naught.

Here is an older article which may still apply...
Testing may have improved a bit since then, but chances are
that the symptoms would have come up much more gradually
that you might not even have noticed.

http://www.drmirkin.com/archive/6491.html

Take care..

Ron

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on July 31, 2004 at 14:15:58:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

top 3 causes of memory loss: low cholestrol, insufficient b-12 (some people can't absorb it from pills), and medication side effects.
Something thought to contribute to alzheimers: aluminum- avoid aluminum cookware, aluminum cans(ike soda and beer come in), aluminum containing deodorant/anti-perspirant, and baking powder with aluminum (rumsford makes an aluminum free brand).
Help for brains: omega 3 oil-can get from fish or from flax oil and pumpkin seeds.



Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? (Debunked)

Posted by Ron [1013.81] on July 31, 2004 at 14:33:01:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by ANN [1003.516] on July 31, 2004 at 14:15:58:

Hi Ann,

I think the aluminum connection to alzheimers has long ago been disproven.
http://www.drmirkin.com/archive/6325.html

How old are the sources you are reading and what are they selling?

Ron




Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 31, 2004 at 15:25:05:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Yes, Cloud.

It is called an autopsy.

Walt



Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? (Debunked)

Posted by ANN [1077.516] on July 31, 2004 at 15:38:32:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? (Debunked) posted by Ron [1013.81] on July 31, 2004 at 14:33:01:

lots of studies are proving and disproving the same thing, usually depending on who is holding the purse strings. Since there are easily available alternatives to every aluminum source I named, why take chances? I don't use microwave ovens, I don't use artificial sweetners. If something is completely unnecessary , why consume it?

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on July 31, 2004 at 16:31:39:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Hi Cloud,

Dr. Stoll is correct, technically, but there are tests for cognitive function. I'm guessing that's what you are looking for, because you don't sound ready for an autopsy yet :)

http://www.alzheimers.org/diagnosis.htm

I'm sure there is a lot you can do with diet and lifestyle, sleep patterns, managing and releasing stress, etc., that will help with the memory loss you are experiencing, regardless of the cause. Start with the resources on Dr. Stoll's website.

Here is a link to a test called the mini mental status exam. DON'T open this link and read it yourself. Just bookmark it and have someone you trust open it, print it out, and administer the test to you. You will skew the results if you peek!! My mom is going to have a MMSE in a couple of weeks. She has dementia and her doctor wants to see if she needs to add a second medication that is for moderate to severe dementia. She is already taking Aricept, a drug for mild to moderate dementia.

http://www.lawandpsychiatry.com/html/mini_mental_status_examination.htm

Wishing you the best,
Nutmeg

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Terrie [1914.8] on July 31, 2004 at 17:26:23:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

My doctor is going to be testing my mom in August. He said its just a series of questions to test her memory.

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Ron [1540.81] on July 31, 2004 at 18:35:56:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 31, 2004 at 15:25:05:

Hi Dr Stoll,

At least you were not beating around the "Bush" (so to speak) :)

Ron

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Terrie [1914.74] on July 31, 2004 at 20:14:41:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Hi Cloud. I am 50 and notice spelling mistakes (use to be an excellent speller) mixing up my words occasionally, checking to see if I put deodorant on after my shower even tho I did it 1 minute prior, lots of things like that. Unfortunately I have 2 realtives right now with severe alzheimer's, and possibly early stages with my mom, I hope not. I am going thru the same thing as you and it sucks. I read all the time to try and keep my mind sharp, unfortunately it goes a little dull once in awhile.



Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Bobbie [20.777] on July 31, 2004 at 20:30:17:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Cloud,

My father was diagnosed with a simple memory test by a psychiatrist. He later had a series of physical tests performed by another psychiatrist. An Alzheimer's diagnosis is made by eliminating other possible conditions. Of course, the only definitive diagnosis is an autopsy.

Are your memory losses short-term (within seconds or a few minutes) or are you simply forgetting where you parked your car or where you left the keys? Alzheimer's jeopardizes the short-term memory. My father would forget within a few minutes that he had asked a question and had received an answer, and he would ask the same question again every 10 minutes or so.

Best wishes,
Bobbie

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Ron [1540.81] on July 31, 2004 at 20:31:36:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Terrie [1914.74] on July 31, 2004 at 20:14:41:

Hi Terrie,

You sound normal to me... I can put down my glasses and spend 5 minutes searching for them... Then as I approach
them, it suddenly comes back to me due to familiar surroundings...

If you do things by reflex, such as putting on deodorant,
it is east to forget because it is so mundane. Try putting the bottle upside down to remind you. Touch your pits to
check, always brush your teeth after putting on the deodorant, then all you need to do is taste your tongue
to be sure.

If your relatives have a diet that is causing aterial
plaques to form, that would be a great place to begin
clearing the pathway for blood.
There is mounting evidence that alz is caused by ministrokes so homocystine reduction can be very helpful.

http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/9218.html

Ron

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by cynthia [1823.741] on August 01, 2004 at 22:32:32:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

Dr Stoll is correct.
Nutmeg is right about things to help the memory loss.
Many families seek the help of a neuro psychologist who administers cognitive testing and then compares the results to a profile.

The memory loss may in fact be due to the menopause. What has your gynecologist suggested?

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? YES - PET

Posted by June.one [1169.4] on August 02, 2004 at 06:51:46:

In Reply to: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Cloud [1123.10] on July 31, 2004 at 09:57:12:

A nuclear medicine study shows the best hope so far. Linked below:

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by tg [312.163] on August 08, 2004 at 00:11:51:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 31, 2004 at 15:25:05:

I was wondering how are they diagnosing people if you say "yes, it's called an autopsy ? Don't understand that answer,or are you saying there really is NOT a true test????



Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's?

Posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on August 08, 2004 at 23:24:48:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by tg [312.163] on August 08, 2004 at 00:11:51:

Hi tg,

There is no definitive test that can be performed on a living person. Confirmation is done by autopsy when the plaques and tangles are present. But, doctors can make a presumptive diagnosis of Alzheimers by ruling out other causes of the dementia and memory loss and by performing the mental status exams and other diagnostics and comparing results and observing changes in cognitive abilities over time. If Alzheimers is suspected in a living person based on behavior, cognitive testing, and diagnostics, I think the diagnosis is usually given as Alzheimer's-type dementia, because they can't be sure.

Hope this helps,
Nutmeg

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Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on August 09, 2004 at 07:29:08:

In Reply to: Re: Is there a test for Alzheimer's? posted by tg [312.163] on August 08, 2004 at 00:11:51:

Thanks, TG.

Only an autopsy makes a definitive diagnosis of alzheimmer's. Statistically, about 90% or pre-mortum diagnoses of alzheimer's turns out to not be alzheimers at autopsy. Most are much more treatable than alzheimer's if only the doc had not made that diagnosis and given up.

Just the information in the brain chemistry archives and the aging archives would be worth trying for anyone in that predicament. At the very least no harm could be done and for that 90% who had treatable causes remarkable improvement might just occur.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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