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mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Lisa L. [741.1371] on September 20, 2004 at 06:58:22:

hi there:
there have been a few posts on here lately about bipolar and mental illness--and one thing that has been brought up is the 'religous/spiritual epiphonies/experiences' that many bipolar people experience during manic episodes or other people with mental health problems expereince at times.....there are some interesting articles and websites out there discussing spiritual awakening and symptoms of mental illness--now many people are not spiritual or do not belive in God or do not believe there is a spirit world or other dimensions out there or believe in any kind of psycic phenomen etc..and i am not bringing this up to debate that fact--just reading about the religios experiences people wrote about just made me think about this--but if you do believe in that sort of thing--it;s intersting to know some of the stuff relating mental illness to spiritual awakeing--there is even some suggestion that schizophrenics really just experience high vibrations and are tapped into other conciousnesses and thats where many of the 'voices' and delusions come from--and that this is also what happens when bipolar people expereince mania--kundalini awakening is apparently sort of a spiritual emergence/evoluation that can produce many symptoms of metal illness--it's interstin g that many of the most intelligent/ creative/ gifted people in our history have alsoe been very eccentric with 'mental problems'i really do believe that many people with symptoms of mental illness are experiencing a sort of spiritual awakening and are functioning at highre vibrations than normal--but are just not aware of it and do not know how to deal with it--there energy systems are out of balance--i think that is why when so many people with bipolar disorder are manic they become extremely creative and have religous/ spiritual expereinces-they are functioning at a higher level than normal and are more tapped into 'The Source' the ultimate creative force--unfortunatelt there are usually the many negatives that come along while manic--there are many bipolar people who enjoy being manic becasue it is a 'high'--they are are super productive and creative and feel euphoric--all experiences of being more attuned to 'The Source/God/Univers' etc...if only we could find the balance of it all--it is like when someone takes drugs--acid perhaps--they often have religous experiences--have a feeling of 'Oneness with All' or a 'connection' to God--i feel these drugs open up some area of the brain but on the energetic level--raise our vibrations temporarily--to tap us into the 'higher levels' of consciouness--i d not advocate talking drugs at all--the best thing would be able to achieve this naturally--thru spiritual pracitce--like meditation etc...zen buddism--nirvana etc..i am bipolar and have never been full blown manic but just hypo manic and i like many--i enjoy the good stuff that comes along with it--the energy--the creativness--the euphoria--but i do not enjoy the crappy depression that hits me when i come down thats why i take my meds--medication 'numbs' us to a lot and lowers our vibrations--i am still on lithium but i have been able to ween off of some meds becasue of practicing a wellness program and ndoing other natural stuff--so I am actually able to experience some of the good qualities of being the way i am--of functioning at a higher vibration at times--of awakening spiritually--without a lot of the bad stuff--there are reasons for someone being 'bipolar' at every level--the mind/body and spirit level---in other wors there somehting that is going on physically on your body which gives you the symptoms of 'mental illness; but there is also something happening on the energetci level aswell--i think if more people understood more about this their symptoms would be less scary--since i started learnign about this--i am doign so much better--i understand that functioning at a level above normal sometimes and being more sensitive to the energies around and having heightened psychic abilities can be scary because we are not use to it and most of us walk around our whole lives not experiencing any of this stuff--i know to many people this sounds pretty 'out to lunch' but i am actually a really down to earth person and just think it worth while to look int these ideas adn maybe they can bring some sort of comfort to those expereincing this sort of thing. there are actually psychiatrists and psycgologist who subcribe to this concept and help people expereincing 'mental illness' and spiritual emergence---it's too bad that society tries to push us into 'normal categories'--it would be nice if we could accpet that some people are more attuned to higher vibrations and seek to understand this while trying to achieve balance and finding a good quality of life--keeping the good aspects of higher vibrations (creativity, tapped into the Univeral Source) but deal with teh negatives--depression--dangersous behaviour----etc.



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Juli [2364.4] on September 20, 2004 at 11:53:09:

In Reply to: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Lisa L. [741.1371] on September 20, 2004 at 06:58:22:

Lisa,

Great post, I agree with a lot of what you said, unfortunately, many bipolar's and schizo's cannot function in this world on their own without meds, Juli



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by dd [1706.26] on September 20, 2004 at 13:45:52:

In Reply to: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Lisa L. [741.1371] on September 20, 2004 at 06:58:22:

Hi Lisa L.,

I found your post very interesting, and I believe you are
onto something. I have had very similar thoughts over
the years, although I have not researched it. Thanks for
this post. I think it might be quite a long time before this
spin will be embraced though. Being "normal" is what
this society strives for. What is overlooked, as you state
in your own way, is that "normal" is only how the
masses function. It doesn't take into account
differences.

There is a book called "The Highly Sensitive Person,"
which describes the break down, percentage-wise, of
the different types making up all species on the planet.
There were very sensitive types in all species, and
according to the study they did, the percentage of the
sensitives were pretty much the same accrosss the
board, in each species. The masses were the norm
only because they were of the highest percentage. But
the interesting part of the study concluded that each
species needed the sensitives to survive. The
sensitives were the ones that grounded the species,
persay. They also had the most difficult lives.

This goes with what you are saying, in regards to
functioning at a higher vibrational level. I find it amazing
actually.

Thanks again for your post, and have fun being creative!

dd



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by D [15.1442] on September 20, 2004 at 17:25:56:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Juli [2364.4] on September 20, 2004 at 11:53:09:

I agree with you Juli. But it may depend ton the severity of the illness.

I have a friend(nurse) who claim some bipolars can go without meds even for years and they think they are better but actually their illness gets worse ovr time without meds. Each mania or depression is worse than ever. That has been her experience dealing with her patients.

I'm afraid some of them end up homeless and lost.

D



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Lisa L. [1008.10] on September 20, 2004 at 22:56:20:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by dd [1706.26] on September 20, 2004 at 13:45:52:

wow..thanks for your comments--i thought i'd get a lot of feddback of people thinking i was just some crazy bipolar person going off on a tangent--i appreciate your thoughts--that soudns like a very intersting book you mentioned--i will look it up--i remember when i first started reading about this sort of thing i thought it was pretty neat but it all made so much sense to me--



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on September 21, 2004 at 08:18:00:

In Reply to: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Lisa L. [741.1371] on September 20, 2004 at 06:58:22:

Right on , Lisa!

For those interested, contact the "Spiritual Emergence Network" at 5905 Soquel Ave. #650, Soquel, CA 95073. Phone (408) 464-8261.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Michelle [992.23] on September 21, 2004 at 09:28:15:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Lisa L. [1008.10] on September 20, 2004 at 22:56:20:

I am presenly going through a depression, and what is helping me is just this subject. I read a great book by Brandon Bays, called The Journey, and she talks about "The Source, and tapping into it. It's funny because I feel like a person looking in on something from the other side of the glass. I see where I know I can be, and how I want to get there, but unsure of the steps to take.
If anyone has any other good books, please post.

Thanks



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on September 21, 2004 at 11:47:56:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Michelle [992.23] on September 21, 2004 at 09:28:15:

I wonder if that is the same Source, that Wayne Dyer talks about ?



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening, To D

Posted by Juli [969.4] on September 21, 2004 at 13:56:39:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by D [15.1442] on September 20, 2004 at 17:25:56:

Your post is sooo true. I was a licensed social worker who worked solely with bipolars and schizophrenics, and they could go for a few years with no meds, even were high functioning, then they would end up in the hospital, it saddened me so much I had to leave the field, as all I could do was put band aids on the mental illness and try to help them cope. However, I did have one schizophrenic lady who grew out of her need for meds!!! She learned to manage the voices she heard, etc. She was truly fascinating.

I did find the schizophrenics to be such kind, sensitive and very intelligent people on the whole, I felt so badly that they had to deal with this... I guess I was too much of a bleeding heart to be in that field!! Juli



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by dd [1706.26] on September 22, 2004 at 01:18:32:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Vince F [173.9] on September 21, 2004 at 11:47:56:

Vince,

I do believe that it would be. Our creative source. I love
that lecture, "the power of intention." Did you see that
on PBS? If so, remember the story about the little boy
and the baseball team?

dd



Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on September 22, 2004 at 01:29:05:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by dd [1706.26] on September 22, 2004 at 01:18:32:

dd, I saw Dyer on PBS and heard the story about the boy you mentioned. I like Dyer, but something bothers me. Maybe I have seen him too often since I almost exclusively watch PBS, but maybe He makes things too complicated for me, and I Just want to exist and function, and not worry things. Maybe I am on a different wavelength. My antenas were damaged. ))

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Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by Sounder [2746.1454] on September 22, 2004 at 15:13:22:

In Reply to: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Lisa L. [741.1371] on September 20, 2004 at 06:58:22:

hi,

Look into the Feeling Good workbook/book. While maybe not what you are looking for, it might help you find some practical ideas for understanding yourself and functioning.

be well,

Sounder

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Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening, To D

Posted by D [6.1442] on September 22, 2004 at 19:21:32:

In Reply to: Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening, To D posted by Juli [969.4] on September 21, 2004 at 13:56:39:

Hey Juli,

I've been really busy and just now read your post.

I know I couldn't deal with that job either. I know I wouldn't be able to leave it there and nkot take it homw with me.

The nurse friend I referred to earlier has been a hospice nurse now and I don't know how she soes it. She amazes me, sow friendly and always in a good mood. I would end up as one of the psyc patients if I had her job.

I think it's great the woma learned to manage the voices she heard. Maybe she just went with it and didn't fight it until she was so relaxed that she could deal with them better.

Take care,
D

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Re: mental illness--spiritual awakening

Posted by
Nick [2027.74] on October 15, 2004 at 23:35:00:

In Reply to: mental illness--spiritual awakening posted by Lisa L. [741.1371] on September 20, 2004 at 06:58:22:

What does it mean when you begin to love someone unconditionally and powerfully, suddenly find no value in any of your possessions, all your sexual desire is replaced with love, you cannot stop thinking about her, cannot concentrate, have the unquestionable feeling that it is impossible to love anybody else as much as her, are not jealous of her boyfriend yet instead deeply hurt, and find it extremely easy to miss her? Is it possible that this is an obsessive compulsive disorder? Or is it twin flame love? It seems that ever since I met a certain girl I have been going through many spiritual changes. What I would really like to know is whether or not the bringing about of spiritual awakening due to meeting this person means that she is my twin flame.

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