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Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hello:

Nothing would satisfy me more than raising my I.Q. by at least 10 points. Does anyone know of any method, exercise or supplement that would achieve the purpose? I'm not focused on any specific area of intelligence. Increasing the overall I.Q. level would be satisfactory.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [1928.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 13:36:32:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,

The only way I can think of is to hang around with Republicans.
That will make you seem smarter in comparison.

OR..
Join Mensa (they must know something others don't know)

If you were about four, I would advise that you should take piano lessons. That does help with multitasking skills.
You should see how smart my neighbour is. He took piano
and sailed through medical school.
I wonder if Walt plays.

Ron




Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on January 20, 2005 at 14:10:07:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

keeping mentally busy can help reduce losses in intelligence that can accompany aging. Doing math exercises (the old DOS game math munchers is good for this-not the more recent cd version, it's been umbed down), taking a college logic course,and learning latin.
Omega 3 oil may help, and I believe in avoiding aluminum cans, anti-perspirants, and pans, though science doesn't admit they are a problem.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:12:33:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Ron:

Republicans? Are you insane? I said I wanted to increase intelligence not insult it:-)

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by
Joe [80.56] on January 20, 2005 at 14:13:36:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [1928.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 13:36:32:


It is reported that edible flowers will increase IQ. 20 points. Something in the pigments.....
http://whatscookingamerica.net/EdibleFlowers/EdibleFlowersMain.htm

Also (very) low levels of dc current has been shown to increase the amount of words recalled when applied to the head.
Subjects were asked to verbally list words beginning with a certain letter with and without current, and were able to list twenty words more per minute with current.
I have yet to find anyone who will let me experiment on them. Friends and family turn me down. Where do you live?



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:14:03:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [1928.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 13:36:32:

Hi Ron:

See my reply to you above ANN's post. I was no insensed at your response that I posted in the wrong spot. I always said you'll be the death of me!



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:19:36:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by ANN [1003.516] on January 20, 2005 at 14:10:07:

Hi ANN:

I don't believe I have a reduction in intelligence. I merely want to increase the level that's already there. Funny you should mention Latin. A friend sent me a message in Latin the other day. I'm still trying to decipher it:-)

Omega 3 is one of my supplements. I've heard about the aluminum/Alzheimer connection. Supposedly Regan's Alzheimer was due to his use of Grecian Formula hair lotion which is high in aluminum.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:22:25:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Joe [80.56] on January 20, 2005 at 14:13:36:

Hi Joe:

I live in Philadelphia. I'd be happy to watch you apply DC current to your person. I'll then report on any result I see taking place.

Edible flowers sound doable. They'll have to be organic though.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by FW [238.218] on January 20, 2005 at 14:46:06:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,

I'm pretty sure that there is some scientific evidence that having sex with writers/biologists, especially those living in the midwest near Lake Michigan, can physically, emotionally, and intellectually stimulate the entire whole being to a higher, more evolved level of consciousness. If it doesn't raise the IQ, it definitely makes one feel pretty darn smart.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 14:55:12:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:14:03:

Hi Philly,

See.. You are getting smarter already ;?)

I'll go read that other post now. (You just can't take a joke
which is typical of the left.) How could I resist?

Ron

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:04:00:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:19:36:

Hi Philly,

The connection between aluminum (the second most common element on earth) and alzheimers has been disproven.
Aluminum deposits is more likely a RESULT of alzheimers, NOT the cause.

Alzheimers is more likely related to mini-strokes
See link...





Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by WOW [1317.65] on January 20, 2005 at 15:06:34:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,
Rhodiola is supposed to increase mental clarity. A study of a group[ of students taking it concluded that they were able to complete tests faster and easier than peers who didn't take it. Not that you need it :-) I mean it as a compliment of course!



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:08:04:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:22:25:

Hi Philly,

You have proven that simply posting on this forum makes you smarter than the "Average Bear"


Right...
Boo Boo

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(watch her turn this comment into a negative)

Ron



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:09:15:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by FW [238.218] on January 20, 2005 at 14:46:06:

Hi FW:

Well, I certainly have always favored writers and those dabbling in the sciences. They have been a source of constant mental and emotional stimulation for me whenever I found myself in their presence. And, if I don't control myself I could easily fall into a state of adoration. Ah, they do it to me every time:-)

Lake Michigan sounds so inviting. Maybe someday a kindly inhabitant will play tour guide.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:11:56:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by FW [238.218] on January 20, 2005 at 14:46:06:

Hi FW,

Why would living in Minnesota be a sign of intelligence?
Have you seen the winters?

Ron

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on January 20, 2005 at 15:20:33:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,

Your to darn smart for your own good now and you want more..Is there no end to your wants? I could tell you how but first you have to give me your SS number..LOL.

Silver Fox!



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:23:33:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:08:04:

Hey Ron:

Watch me turn it into a double negative. "I don't have no smart pills in my picka-nik basket":-)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:24:21:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:04:00:

Hey Ron:

Now there you go again....quoting Mirkin.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:26:30:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by WOW [1317.65] on January 20, 2005 at 15:06:34:

Hi WOW:

I've read very little about rhodiola. But if I remember correctly, you take it right? What results have you noticed?



Re: Are There Effective Ways (NOT JUST MIrkin)

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:31:40:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:24:21:

Hi Philly,

Ok, Here is another article which mentions Cholesterol.


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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:31:47:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on January 20, 2005 at 15:20:33:

Hi Steve:

My SS number? Oh, so your good advice comes with a price:-)

Actually, it doesn't hurt to want to improve one's mind and intelligence.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:38:03:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on January 20, 2005 at 15:20:33:

Hi Steve,

You can't blame a girl for wanting it "ALL" and then blaming us guys for standing in her way.

Haven't we been told for years that smarts are a genetic trait?
If our mothers chose a smarter husband, we would then likely be smarter. (how long have the shrinks been asking...
"How long have you hated your mother?"

Ron

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:39:43:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,

I did hear that "artificial intelligence" was defined as a blonde wearing a brunette wig. Does this help?



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Paulc [1041.535] on January 20, 2005 at 15:41:06:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Phosphatidyl Serine would do it...but why bother...if you
got too smart too fast your family and friends might hate
you..lol



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:49:20:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:39:43:

Hi Ron:

Doesn't help me, but it might help you get on the Jay Leno show.

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Have you tried sleeping at a Holiday Inn Express,

Posted by Tabby [6.1461] on January 20, 2005 at 15:56:36:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Like in the commercial? :-)

Sorry, couldn't resist



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:59:55:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Paulc [1041.535] on January 20, 2005 at 15:41:06:

Hi Paul:

No, my family and friends wouldn't hate me. They'd look to me to solve problems....Well, they do that now. Actually, some of my friends are extremely intelligent. I'm sure we could have even more rewarding discussions should I increase my intelligence level. Plus, I have so many books that haven't been read....I could go on with the reasons why increased intelligence would please me.

I suppose I find pleasure and satisfaction in understanding what was once too darn difficult to comprehend...sort of like shining a bright light in a dark room. Think of the revelations:-)

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Re: Have you tried sleeping at a Holiday Inn Express,

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 16:01:16:

In Reply to: Have you tried sleeping at a Holiday Inn Express, posted by Tabby [6.1461] on January 20, 2005 at 15:56:36:

Hi Tabby:

Now you have my curiosity going. You must explain:-)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by WOW [1317.65] on January 20, 2005 at 17:25:54:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:26:30:

Hi Philly,
Yes, I have been taking it for about a month. I noticed a difference in my attitude, self confidence, clarity of thinking and mind and overall calmness as well as increased energy and stemina.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jayne [819.513] on January 20, 2005 at 17:42:44:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Dumb question,,,,but IQ test was topic of discussion yesterday! Is there any place on line you can take one??
Heard NBC has had them on TV,,,took 1 hr., but don't watch much TV....thanks



Practice, practice, practice

Posted by Lincoln [2274.218] on January 20, 2005 at 17:56:20:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Studies have clearly shown that mind games help.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 17:56:22:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jayne [819.513] on January 20, 2005 at 17:42:44:

Yes, hang around the Drudge Report and in no time you'll get a pop-up leading you to an online IQ test. (unblock your pop-up blocker)

I took it and scored 140, but just possibly this was a tactic to sell more tests, which the site had plenty others of. Ya think?

Anyway it was a fun test to take. I loved it. Some mind-provoking questions.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:07:01:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jayne [819.513] on January 20, 2005 at 17:42:44:

Hi Jayne:

Which "dumb question" are you referring to?

I am not asking where I can take an I.Q. test, as I've already taken several. I am asking for ways to increase intelligence.



Re: Practice, practice, practice

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:10:45:

In Reply to: Practice, practice, practice posted by Lincoln [2274.218] on January 20, 2005 at 17:56:20:

Hi Lincoln:

Thanks. I always believed mind games were good for the intellect.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 18:24:39:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:07:01:

You did say "10 points" . You'll have to take another, if you're going to know if it worked :)

I have heard that neurofeedback can raise IQ, specifically training in high alpha.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on January 20, 2005 at 18:28:16:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:19:36:

If you simply stayed as smart as we all know you are, your IQ would go do, due to the fact that chronological age is one of the variables in the formula that determines IQ. We all lose grey cells are we age, so there can be a loss in functioning. But learning new stuff can make new connections in your brain.
Radiation affects brains negatively, so avoid exposure to radiation-dental x-rays, cell phones, computer monitors, etc. Wear a white hat to deflect some sunlight from your brain (as well as to identify you as a good guy).

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on January 20, 2005 at 18:29:21:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:04:00:

now, if we believed all that had been 'proven' or 'disproven' we wouldn't be at this site.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:42:55:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 18:24:39:

Hi Jan:

Taking another test would indicate whether or not I've managed to raise the old I.Q. by a few points. The results would give a definite score. Although I wasn't specifically asking where I could take one. I merely wanted to increase the level BEFORE taking another one sometime in the future.

I'm thinking of supplementing and finding some interesting games to play. Mahjong has its limits:-)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 18:48:59:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Ron [3195.1671] on January 20, 2005 at 15:04:00:

In science nothing is disproven. Only failed to be proven.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:53:24:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Paulc [1041.535] on January 20, 2005 at 15:41:06:

Hi again Paul:

Have you any experience with Phosphatidyl Serine? Is it similar to the phosphatidyl choline & inositol found in lecithin? I've always believed I had greater clarity of mind when I took lecithin.

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Re: Practice, practice, practice

Posted by gabriella [180.890] on January 20, 2005 at 18:56:07:

In Reply to: Re: Practice, practice, practice posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:10:45:

Hi Philly,

"I always believed mind games were good for the intellect."

And I can tell that you enjoy them! Cool



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 18:56:31:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:42:55:

I know you weren't asking where to take one but Jayne was.

What's Mahjong?



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 19:21:01:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 18:56:31:

Hi Jan:

Mahjong (or Mahjongg) is a Chinese puzzle game. Here's the link. I hope it posted correctly.

The object of the game is to remove the tiles. You remove them by clicking them off in pairs. In other words, click two of the same kind to remove them both.



Re: Practice, practice, practice

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 19:22:44:

In Reply to: Re: Practice, practice, practice posted by gabriella [180.890] on January 20, 2005 at 18:56:07:

Hi Gabriella:

Perhaps I should rephrase that. I enjoy playing games for the mind:-)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jayne [819.513] on January 20, 2005 at 20:15:39:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 18:07:01:

HI Philly,,,,I was not referring to YOU!
I am the dumb question person!!
Wondered if there was some place,,,Online to take an IQ test???



Re: Practice, practice, practice

Posted by gabriella [87.890] on January 20, 2005 at 20:21:17:

In Reply to: Re: Practice, practice, practice posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 19:22:44:

Hi Philly,

Too late girlfriend! Ah those Freudian slips...

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 21:26:34:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jayne [819.513] on January 20, 2005 at 20:15:39:

Hi Jayne:

Yes, there are plenty of places that'll administer those tests. They're fun. Just do a search:-)

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Hope [1618.1490] on January 20, 2005 at 21:38:03:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 20, 2005 at 17:56:22:

LOL they are fun but they are FAR from accurate.




fast way..get married and raise a bunch of kids..ha

Posted by lovebird for Philly [20.15] on January 20, 2005 at 21:57:16:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 15:23:33:

Ha
I just had to say that

Cause after all of that you will know and have done everything from changing tires/diapers to lookin gorgeous, have a neat house and dinner ready to at 6 having driven in carpools since 7 am and now evening with hubby from your 20's to your 60's..........you will be very bright by that time. Ha

I just said this to be funny.

Lovebird



Re: fast way..get married and raise a bunch of kids..ha

Posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 22:00:07:

In Reply to: fast way..get married and raise a bunch of kids..ha posted by lovebird for Philly [20.15] on January 20, 2005 at 21:57:16:

Hi Lovebird:

Thanks. Doing all the things you've mentioned sure keeps the mind active:-)

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Sounder [1194.48] on January 20, 2005 at 23:25:11:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,

I read a book some time back called the Einstein Factor by Win Wenger. He talks about a technique called image streaming, to increase IQ. I wasn't dilingent in my practice, so I have no opinion. He had a technique for systematic underwater swimming that he claimed raised IQ as well. I was going to link you to it at Amazon, but I found a review that was interesting so I copied that instead. I figured if you can't find your way over to Amazon for the book...you're gonna need more that 10 extra points. ;)

Here is the review:

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Hello everyone, I truly believe that you can raise you IQ but it requires a little more work than Mr. Wenger suggests. His book I think is very important for it suggests a method that if used correctly may help people increase their IQ. Here is my method:

1. Obtain a book named "How to Solve It" by George Polya (ISBN 0691023565), it contains great advice on how to go about solving nearly any type of problem, the ideas are a little abstract and sometimes difficult to apply. Don't just skim the book, do every single problem in the book.

2. Obtain a book named "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" by Paul Zeitz (ISBN 0471135712), this is the best book on problem solving. It will teach you how to think so you can solve nearly any type of problem. Don't just skim the book, do every single problem in the book.

3. After you have gone through those two books, obtain a book named "Giant Book of Mensa Mind Challenges" (ISBN 1402710496). Solve every single problem in the book, go through the problems until you can solve any variation of the problems in a reasonable amount of time.

4. Use Mr. Wengers image streaming technique, but instead of thinking of random "virtual worlds" in your head, focus on a Mensa problem and image stream your manipulation of its solution in your head. Do this until you can solve nearly any Mensa problem completely in your head never opening your eyes and writing something down.

If you follow these 4 steps I guarantee that you will increase your IQ.

More advice on how to increase your IQ:
1. Obtain a memory improvement system by Harry Lorayne

http://www.harrylorayne.com/index.html

Use it to memorize as many solutions to Mensa problems as possible, when test time comes and you notice a similar problem, it will be as easy as cake.

2. Obtain or take part in a speed reading course, this will greatly facilitate reading the Mensa problems, also you can easily read more books on solving Mensa problems.

3. Though research shows that Gingko Biloba alone does not increase mental ability, it does increase blood flow to your brain, so what you do is take a slow release Iron supplement (read the label don't over do it). The gingko runs more blood to your brain and the extra iron allows more oxygen to reach your brain cells increasing their efficacy, allowing you to think faster. Combine this with gotu kola. You should take the gotu kola every other day and the ginkgo twice a week. Drink coffee as often as possible. All of this is like nitrous injection or supercharging for your brain.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 21, 2005 at 01:13:23:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Hope [1618.1490] on January 20, 2005 at 21:38:03:

I could take that the wrong way, but I won't. :)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Vince F [1194.1745] on January 21, 2005 at 01:38:14:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

read the whole encylopedia..

What are you trying to accomplish, other than braging rights to a higher # ?



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by thessa [174.1730] on January 21, 2005 at 03:16:32:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Sounder [1194.48] on January 20, 2005 at 23:25:11:

Hi Sounder and PL,
I like this post and think it would work.

If I could rearrange the last tip to my standards though, I would be happier :) So here's how I would change the last point (#3).

I would take the gingko and gotu kola (skipping the advice to rely on coffee), but I would add sage and rosemary to the formula, as they provide antioxidants specific to the brain.

I would skip iron supplements and instead do classic blood builders like spirulina, chlorella and/or green drinks. This way the gingko will not just deliver more oxygen to the brain, but also more nutrients in general, and a better blood consistency all around. If someone really wanted to go for the iron (like someone who is already anemic), I would add Yellow dock too.

But I would start with bowel cleansing! Remember the second brain is in the digestive tract, and the intestines are responsible for making a large portion of neurotransmitters used in the brain. Gotta make sure not only that the colon is not contributing toxins to the brain, but also that the digestive system is capable of delivering nutrients to the blood, and hence brain.
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PL, got 15,000 extra beans? If so, why do this biofeedback program? The head of the company claims that it increases IQ by an average of 12 points.

Also there is this supplement: Hydergine. I haven't had a chance to really scrutinize it yet, nor have I tried it...



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by thessa [174.1730] on January 21, 2005 at 03:20:21:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by thessa [174.1730] on January 21, 2005 at 03:16:32:

Forgot to add... whenever you are supporting the nervous system, it's wise to also support the endocrine system, as they work hand in hand... it's hard to think straight if you are experiencing glandular burnout. I'd add my adrenal stress formula, which is 3pt Siberian ginseng, 2pt licorice, 1 part oat straw, 1 part rosemary, 1 pt rose hips. Or similar formula... Plus meditation (SR)!

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jane (1) [1475.4] on January 21, 2005 at 04:12:34:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Um Philly it is evident from your posts that you have a VERY high IQ indeed already. Be warned: too high = madness just as much as genius. Oh, and you score super-high on the emotional intelligence scale too!!!


Jane :)



According to Mensa

Posted by Michele [6.814] on January 21, 2005 at 06:30:11:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

It's all about practice.
Also, IQ tests are also about being a great "test taker" than anything..so maybe even honing those skills would give you the point boost you are looking for.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by
Joe [80.56] on January 21, 2005 at 07:46:39:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 14:22:25:

I'm near DC, Phillylady; we could meet in Baltimore.........
But seriously, I have been thinking about growing an organic, edible flower garden, since I read about it.

Iodine sufficiency is another way to have consistent alertness. It is said that a large percentage of the population are I- deficient because 1. we don't supplement, and 2. What little we get is booted out by the uptake of Bromide and Chlorine, resulting in hypothryroidism, of which symptoms can be depression, lethargy, weight gain, constipation, and the usual symptoms that seem a mystery to most of us. Even if you don't drink tap water, these 2 can be in food that was cooked wth tap water.
One way to correct the problem is to supplement with Lugols solution (You need a prescription for this)
and the other could be to supplement with kelp until sufficient.
A way to test for deficiency is to paint a 2" circle of the drugstore variety (Not to be taken internally) on the inner bicep or stomach and observe the duration until absorption. (My first time was 2 hrs)
Approx. 48 hrs is said to be sufficient. 48 hrs duration indicates that the thyroid has enough iodine, and is not seeking more.
(THIS SUBJECT NEEDS TO BE RESEARCHED. TOO MUCH IODINE CAN HAVE THE REVERSE DESIRED EFFECT) (Iodine is safe if used correctly, but with solutions, it is easy to overdo it)
I have been supplementing for a couple weeks, and I do notice some improvement, although it is still early......



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 21, 2005 at 08:06:32:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Unfortunately, PhillyLady.

The most effective times begin 2 years prior to conception and gradually reduce in effectiveness until infancy. From supplements to underwater birthing have been shown to have significant benefits to IQ.

Walt



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 08:41:32:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 21, 2005 at 08:06:32:

Thanks Dr. Stoll:

Guess I'll stick with the supplements.

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Re: According to Mensa

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 08:46:13:

In Reply to: According to Mensa posted by Michele [6.814] on January 21, 2005 at 06:30:11:

Hi Michele:

Practice it is, then. I'm not familiar with the Mensa requirements, but I believe we have one or two of their members here on board.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Happygal [2070.23] on January 21, 2005 at 08:57:02:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly Lady.

My suggestion is give away your TV.

Also, do the three-legged stool. Excellent health improves all aspects of a person, including the mind.

I agree with Lincoln: do a bunch of games designed to stimulate different parts of the mind. There are probably books on this topic. I think Walt said once that we only use 1 - 10% of our brains. The key, perhaps, is just being able to use more than the small amount we use now.

Best wishes,
Jan



Re: Have you tried sleeping at a Holiday Inn Express,

Posted by Tabby [6.1461] on January 21, 2005 at 09:03:25:

In Reply to: Re: Have you tried sleeping at a Holiday Inn Express, posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 16:01:16:

You haven't seen the commercials (US)? I can't remember them verbatim, but to give you an idea of one of them......there's a guy who's helping (or answering questions of) someone else and he--first guy--sounds very intelligent. The second person says something like "you must be a doctor?" and the first person replies, "No. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night"........ Meaning, I guess, that he is smart because he stayed there and saved money over other hotel chains.

Tab

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 09:11:28:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Happygal [2070.23] on January 21, 2005 at 08:57:02:

Hi Jan:

Most television programs hold no interest for me. But I do enjoy the occasional British humor show, as well as some PBS programs.

If 1% to 10% of the brain is being used, that leaves 99% to 90% unused. All that good brain matter going to waste.....



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 09:29:40:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Vince F [1194.1745] on January 21, 2005 at 01:38:14:

Hi Vince:

No, not bragging rights. Having a more developed intellect would allow for better understanding of the mysteries of the world. Imagine being able to correctly diagnose yourself when presented with an ailment. Then imagine being able to eradicate that ailment. There are so many other benefits:-)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 09:43:18:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jane (1) [1475.4] on January 21, 2005 at 04:12:34:

Hi Jane:

You mean if I increase my I.Q. I stand the chance of achieving madness? Hallelujah! I'm going for full glory then. Genius and madness all rolled into one....Superb!

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 09:53:30:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Sounder [1194.48] on January 20, 2005 at 23:25:11:

Hi Sounder:

That's quite an impressive formula you just listed. I think I would enjoy the problem solving books. And I can attest to the effectiveness of Gotu Kola. It's one of my favorite herbs for "clarifying" thoughts.

Interestingly enough, Gotu Kola and Coffee are supposed to be beneficial for my blood type. Although I don't believe I'll be drinking coffee beyond my usual one (sometimes two) cup per day.

I would think anything that increases oxygen flow would help brain function, but I never thought that a slow-release iron capsule would do the trick. Thanks:-)

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 10:05:37:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by thessa [174.1730] on January 21, 2005 at 03:16:32:

Hi Thessa:

Thanks for mentioning colon cleansing. It's so important to be free of toxins. You're right the digestive tract is known as the second brain.

I do take Gotu Kola sometimes in capsule form. How would you recommend taking rosemary? It's great as an herbal addition to food.

I don't have 15,000 extra beans so I'll be skipping the biofeedback program:-)

Are you familiar with the book "Life Extension" by Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw? They recommended taking Hydergine. Now, this was back in the 1970s or 1980s. I don't know what those two are up to now. It would be interesting to see how they've aged and whether they managed to stay healthy.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 21, 2005 at 10:13:27:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1327.1599] on January 20, 2005 at 19:21:01:

Thank you. Good luck on your quest.

Being a whole, psychologically healthy person is a fundamental characteristic of intelligence too.

Is there a particular area in which you would like the increased intelligence to manifest?

Intelligence is very interesting to me.... as in certain ways I feel dumb or dense.

Is there an area in which you feel particularly dumb? (if you want to say) (With me it's politics.)



A friend in Mensa

Posted by Michele [6.814] on January 21, 2005 at 11:15:17:

In Reply to: Re: According to Mensa posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 08:46:13:

I have a friend in Mensa and they seem to focus on practice, but in most items I've read on getting IN mensa, it's all about test taking skills of their style.

Some of it is just silly repitition of sequences; I'm not sure one is more intelligent per this or just spends more time on sequencing (which in itself is a questionable thing to practice in the sake of a high score..)

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One more thing...

Posted by Michele [6.814] on January 21, 2005 at 11:17:23:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

It is also beneficial to work on memory...short and long term... because as we age, the memory slows down a bit (also under stress)...
A book I read recently (what a shock, I can't think of the name LOL) had a lot of memory building skills in it; I bought it for (and thumbed through) a friend who had a car accident and had neurological damage to a lesser degree, and was working on rebuilding her memory.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Hope [1618.1490] on January 21, 2005 at 12:43:26:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 21, 2005 at 01:13:23:

:) Good you should not have taken it the wrong way.

I simply meant they are far from accurate because they don't test all of the many ways to be intelligent. The ones on the internet are obviously worse because of the obvious.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on January 21, 2005 at 13:40:33:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 09:11:28:

Hi Philly,

The number I have read several times is, we use less than 10% of our brain..But don't think the other 90% is just sitting around doing nothing..Every cell ( all 1 trillion ) take there direction from the brain..Every function in your body is directed by the brain, night and day, every day..The only cells that don't listen to the brain are cancer cells..They have gone crazy and don't respond the the brain..

We are a marvelous machine, are we not?

Silver Fox!

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Re: 10 points would not be easy..

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on January 21, 2005 at 13:59:37:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Hi Philly,

I seen to recall, that you close to a Mensa level now, right? Now don't be shy..10 points for you would be a 12 or 13% increase..That's a lot..

They say that your brain stores every thing you ever read, saw and heard..The problem we all have is to be able to recall that information..Intelligent people can recall better than most..So did you pay attention in class or were you looking at the good-looking boy across the room?

Silver Fox!

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 15:07:31:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 21, 2005 at 10:13:27:

Hi Jan:

Well, I'd like an increase in overall intelligence, but since you asked, the areas which I think would benefit me most would be those governing memory and mathematics. Not that they're especially weak, but they are simply average.

Also, I could use a greater understanding of money and the whole "game" of money, how to make it, how to invest it, etc. (legally, of course).



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by JB [733.1671] on January 21, 2005 at 19:37:56:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Paulc [1041.535] on January 20, 2005 at 15:41:06:

Gee Paul,

I guess you have nothing to worry about, eh? ;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist. :-)

JB

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Vince F [1194.1745] on January 21, 2005 at 21:47:28:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 09:29:40:

coincidence, that the guy who read the encyclopedia is on NPR on TV.

Well, why can't you diagnose yourself ? You did with your bunions, and I don't think a high IQ is going to make that knowledge just appear. I think that everything is a process, of learning, and then understanding. Interest in the subject helps. Right now I am back to exploring Linux OS and how to get all my systems to work right, And the way I want them to. I don't think IQ would help me that much, since things are a black hole, that we shine light on with every bit of knowledge we learn. Desire helps a lot, and how much time or thought we put into something.

I have a friend with a painful shoulder. He says he tried heat on it, and it didn't help, so he went to a Dr to get a shot, and has an appointment to see a surgeon, and wants it operated on. I think he wants a quick fix, at the risk of future problems. I'd be applying cayenne or resting it to see if it would heal on its own. There could be a tear, but he thinks tear, while I think strain first. I don't think an IQ would help diagnose it, an x ray should




Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? ARCHIVE.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 22, 2005 at 04:02:49:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 20, 2005 at 13:19:11:

Thanks, PhillyLady.

See my previous note. Remember that our best estimates are that we only use less than 10% of our brain's capacity (probably less than 1%).

Therefore, just improving the quality of the brain we have is VERY possible and certainly a lot easier than working with the "IQ" The way to do that is by serious wellness AND by trying some of the suggestions in the brain chemistry archives.

Walt



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? ARCHIVE.

Posted by Miss Bliss [4.1431] on January 22, 2005 at 06:13:14:

In Reply to: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? ARCHIVE. posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 22, 2005 at 04:02:49:

Hi Walt

I also think that by reducing stress and practising SR/meditation is another great way of increasing intelligence.

Stress clouds one's true intelligence. The brain does not do as well under stress.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [2051.1599] on January 22, 2005 at 09:01:27:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Vince F [1194.1745] on January 21, 2005 at 21:47:28:

Hi Vince:

Wow, I saw that show last night on PBS. That man is amazing. I knew about the mummified cats, but had never heard of the mummified mice until he mentioned it.

Yes, I did fix my bunions but that was due to my having read articles on alterntive healing. I did not diagnose the problem myself nor did I invent the solution.

A higher I.Q. is not something I absolutely must have, but if I had to chose between raising mine or lowering it, I'd rather raise it. I think most people would do the same:-)



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [2051.1599] on January 22, 2005 at 09:23:20:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Joe [80.56] on January 21, 2005 at 07:46:39:

Hi Joe:

Thanks. You've offered some interesting information. I'll have to read up on bromide and chlorine in food and their effect on hypothyroidism. That's something I hadn't known about.

Now about your instructions for testing for something using a 2" circle painted on the skin, you did not quite complete your instructions. Something tells me the substance you are referring to is iodine. Am I correct?

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 22, 2005 at 20:47:34:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 15:07:31:

Yes, that helps me to understand more.

I am taking your desire for more intelligence as a desire for growth, basically.

In your study of astrology did you ever look at your north & south nodes? North node tells you where you are going. This territory is unfamiliar, scary, and exciting, and your soul's direction is to go there. The south node placement tells where you came from.... shows the things you feel like a born genius at....and are therefore no challenge to speak of (but you feel safe there). The south node can be a rut for you. But if you aim for the north node, then the genius of the south node will come shining through.

Well, you said you didn't want to talk types of intelligence.... but I think it is unavoidable in any discussion about it. Don't know where I'm going with this.... I don't mind if we stop! Good thread, anyhow.



Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by PhillyLady [2051.1599] on January 22, 2005 at 21:09:08:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Jan S. [535.81] on January 22, 2005 at 20:47:34:

Hi Jan:

North Node conjuncts Mars in Capricorn. Yes, I want to grow in a positive way. I can't elaborate more since I'm still learning....Oh, and I just came back in the house from having shoveled snow. It's backbreaking work, but someone's got to do it, right?:-)

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? ARCHIVE.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 23, 2005 at 06:34:46:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? ARCHIVE. posted by Miss Bliss [4.1431] on January 22, 2005 at 06:13:14:

Thanks, Blissy.

Absolutely!

Walt

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by thessa [112.1730] on January 23, 2005 at 07:40:11:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [1906.1536] on January 21, 2005 at 10:05:37:

I take Rosemary in tincture form. Since you have it dried at home, you can just mix it up with the alcohol and viola! I would make a formula though with all 4 of the ingredients so they can be taken all together...

Hmm, never heard of the book or the authors. I'll have to look them up, thanks!

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by bing [1067.18] on January 23, 2005 at 13:15:23:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 21, 2005 at 08:06:32:

Thank you Walt for mentioning this point.

According to traditional Chinese health practice (and TCM), the situation before, during and after conception is crucial to the wellbeing of the future child, including intelligence, physical health, lifespan, emtional health, etc. etc. Which leads me to believe that the drinking, smoking and drug culture that is closely related to sex and conception in the modern world is responsible for most of the health (and other) problems. And health issues caused by unhealthy practices before one is born is the hardest to solve, if it can be solved at all.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Blissy [4.1431] on January 23, 2005 at 20:09:00:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by Walt Stoll [9.1465] on January 21, 2005 at 08:06:32:

Hi Walt

This is interesting. Right before we decided to start a family, I had been taking multivitamins and eating healthy, although my stress level was kind of high at the time.

Anyway, as soon as we decided to start trying, I started on a pregnancy vitamin and mineral supplement. When I had my antenatal tests done to test for spina bifida, neural tube defect in the foetus etc, the obstetrican commented that I had "excellent results" especially seeing as I am now in my thirties, and that my results were "better than average".

I do put this down to the supplement I started taking and am still taking,and also eating a healthy diet. All this goes towards producing a healthy baby.

Unfortunately, my obs and the hospital where I will be delivering does not cater to underwater births. That would be my preferrred way to deliver.
Actually, there was a story out here, that a baby died from an underwater birth.

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Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence?

Posted by Vince F [1194.1745] on January 23, 2005 at 23:17:34:

In Reply to: Re: Are There Effective Ways To Increase Intelligence? posted by PhillyLady [2051.1599] on January 22, 2005 at 09:01:27:

Maybe the egyptians didn't want to admit to having mice. Might keep tourists away.) I had never heard about it either. Would think that one of the shows about egypt or nunies would have mentioned it.

I never would have thought about cod for arthritis either, unless told by an old guy, and asked a physical therpist I know, who scoffed, and waited till a GF who I told about it, tried it, and told me it worked. Then it took 10yrs to hear what might be the reason why it works. replenishing the synovial fluid with Vit A. I think intelligence comes in when you take something like that and figure other places, or things it can help. I never found any more, but with cayenne, I tell my friend who told me, what other things it can help, and he asks me what to try for things it have helped me, and cayenne is often it.

WELL, some people might be able to deal with the govt if they weren't so bright, and bought eveything they were told.

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