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Panic Attacks?

Posted by
Tasia on January 21, 2001 at 08:32:35:

Dr. Stoll,

In August I went to my G.P. with symptoms which he described as Panic Attacks. He referred me to a social worker and after a few visits I was told there is nothing mentally wrong with me. She thinks it is something more physiological. I have a heart murmur, yes. I have chronic hyperthyrodism which comes and goes. My symptoms are exacerbated after exercise or chronic stress. Here are my symptoms: dizziness, heart palpatations (feels like birds fluttering in my chest), weakness and soreness in the arms and legs, middle two fingers on left hand turn white when exposed to cold, and here is the one that worries me most....a funny feeling in my head....it feels as if the back part of my head at the base of my brain quivers. This wakes me up at night with a panicky feeling. When I talk to my doctor he says it is all stress and wants to simply prescribe antidepressants. I dont think I believe him anymore. The "funny head feeling" really frightens me. Any ideas?

Thanks!



Re: Panic Attacks?

Posted by rudy on January 21, 2001 at 15:27:41:

In Reply to: Panic Attacks? posted by Tasia on January 21, 2001 at 08:32:35:

Tasia,
The panic attacks are a symptom of your hyperthyroidism. I don't know why GPs don't know this. I suffered with panic attacks for 10 years before I connected it with my thyroid problems. Eliminate all caffeine, sugar and alcohol. Do meditation. Eat a healthy diet. Be kind to yourself. Find a doctor that understands. You'll be fine! Blessings-Rudy



Re: Panic Attacks?

Posted by
Steve on January 21, 2001 at 16:27:25:

In Reply to: Re: Panic Attacks? posted by rudy on January 21, 2001 at 15:27:41:

That was pretty good advise from Rudy.
The two main factors, I have found that predispose to "panic attacks. phobias, etc." are "hidden" parasitosis, and mercury ("Silver" dental amlgams, fish, etc.)
A more complete list of the PHYSICAL factors that may be responsible for panic attacks can be found at a FAQ at www.wellatlast.com
But you should first get a complete physical exam and blood work up to check for your electrolyte balance, thyroid and other factors.
Be well.
Steve R.



Re: Panic Attacks? Dr Stoll?

Posted by Lizzie on January 21, 2001 at 22:11:03:

In Reply to: Panic Attacks? posted by Tasia on January 21, 2001 at 08:32:35:

Here are my symptoms: dizziness, heart palpatations (feels like birds fluttering in my chest),

I have this same fluttering feeling when I awaken from sleep, but it lasts less than 5 mins., what is this Dr Stoll.



Re: Panic Attacks? Tasia?

Posted by Lynn on January 21, 2001 at 22:12:41:

In Reply to: Re: Panic Attacks? posted by rudy on January 21, 2001 at 15:27:41:

Tasia,
The panic attacks are a symptom of your hyperthyroidism. I don't know why GPs don't know this. I suffered with panic attacks for 10 years before I connected it with my thyroid problems. Eliminate all caffeine, sugar and alcohol. Do meditation. Eat a healthy diet. Be kind to yourself. Find a doctor that understands. You'll be fine! Blessings-Rudy

Ive had panic/anxiety for 30 yrs. and my thyroid is just fine!



Re: Panic Attacks?

Posted by Terri-Lynn Virgil on January 22, 2001 at 05:08:19:

In Reply to: Panic Attacks? posted by Tasia on January 21, 2001 at 08:32:35:

We ar intuitive kinesiologist and have worked for Dr. Stoll in his office; The reason i am telling you this is it would benifit you to do a intuitive ELF-testing with us, i pick this up strongly and it would save you a lot of wondering what route to go, it would help you fine tune any allergies or help you to get to the cause and direct you to the right path to take; Read our web page on the elf testing- WWW.wellbeingranch.org; Listen to some of the food style changes that were suggested would be a start; If you want a reading you call 1-800-800-0432 and they call us in Maui and tell us or call us at 808-283-7670 on our cell phone; [we are presently working in Maui]



Re: Panic Attacks? Tasia?

Posted by rudy on January 22, 2001 at 09:33:38:

In Reply to: Re: Panic Attacks? Tasia? posted by Lynn on January 21, 2001 at 22:12:41:

Lynn,
I'm not suggesting that everyone with panic attacks has a thyroid problem. I am saying that if you have a thyroid problem and you have panic attacks the anxiety is due to your thyroid imbalance, it is not an emotional problem.
Some doctors still see emotional symptoms as indicators of emotional imbalance and physical symptoms as indicators of physical disease and cannot make the connection that emotional symptoms can indicate a physical disorder.
The Chinese have known this for thousands of years and diagnose physical ailments from emotional symptoms, knowing that the disease process starts in the emotions and will show up there long before it shows up in the body.
Who knows how many children with allergies are on Ritalin and how many adults with thyroid and adrenal problems are on anti-anxiety meds because of our Western system of treating the mind as a separate entity from the body. Rudy



Breathing properly is another cause of panic....

Posted by Marie on January 22, 2001 at 21:18:48:

In Reply to: Panic Attacks? posted by Tasia on January 21, 2001 at 08:32:35:

Improper breathing, that is exhaling too much carbon dioxide (CO2) causes body to panic, shooting adrenalin resulting in the "flight or fight" syndrome. If you have hypertension it will cause a rise or even spikes.

Many people "think" they are breathing just fine but in reality they are not. If you are a shallow breather or a hidden hyperventilator, or a sighing breather you may very well be a "hyperventilating breather". Normally a person who hyperventilates is gasping for breath, not so for the hidden hyperventilators.

Unfortunately most doctors do not know to look for this. After 6 years of going down hill to only being able to sit in a chair for at least 2 weeks I found a hypertension specialist that recognized the problem immedately. The prescription was to "rebreathe in paper sack 5 minutes every hour" for 3 months then reduce number of times. Amazing, the bloodpressure started coming down and the sack fastened to a short piece of plastic tube is my companion everywhere.

Hyperventilation upsets the central nervous system.

The body needs a balance of CO2 in order for oxygen to be released from the red carpusles. Vital organs are deprived of oxygen and therefore rest of body is deprived of oxygen. Yes, it makes you light headed due to lack of oxygen. Oh, there is oxygen in the blood, just can't get out without the balance of CO2.

There is a simple blood test doctors can do to determine the level of CO2 blood gasses. However, you will have to request this test, it is not done on a routine basis. Have the test done after you have been up and about for a long time because respiration calms down when you sleep at night and the CO2 balance will be better early in the morning. Our activity and breathing will deplete it later in the day. Shortness of breath is a symptom also.

Hope this is of help to you and others, at least to know it does exist and doctors do not look for it.

Marie



Re: Panic Attacks? Dr Stoll?

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 23, 2001 at 09:58:31:

In Reply to: Re: Panic Attacks? Dr Stoll? posted by Lizzie on January 21, 2001 at 22:11:03:

See my note about this today.

Walt



Re: Breathing improperly is another cause of panic....(Archive in Panic Attacks.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 24, 2001 at 10:21:59:

In Reply to: Breathing properly is another cause of panic.... posted by Marie on January 22, 2001 at 21:18:48:

Thanks, Marie.

Walt



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