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Anxiety Disorder?

Posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

Hi...I was hoping someone could offer some insight:

I have a problem, being that whenever I am faced with some sort of confrontation (even something most would say is 'no big deal') I have extreme, induced panic, nervousness, what-have-you. It's almost as if normal people experience X amount of adrenaline in any sort of stressful situation, I experience 10X! My body reacts to something as mundane as a heated argument or confrontation like I'm about to be attacked by a wild animal. I can feel my heart pumping violently to the point of my hands trmebling in preparation of a fight. Intellectually, I know it's absurd; but every time my body reacts like life is on the line. I guess you could say I have acute 'Fight or Flight' experiences. Speaking with therapists has no real long term benefits. Is there anything I can do?



Re: Anxiety Disorder?

Posted by Kimberly on May 24, 2001 at 15:15:03:

In Reply to: Anxiety Disorder? posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

Jon,
I just made a similar posting the other day! Read the book the Anxiety Epedimic by Billie Sahley. She treats anxiety with amino acids. Here is the URL to her site:http://www.painstresscenter.com/
It's the Pain & Stress Center in San Antonio, TX!
Good Luck!

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Re: Anxiety Disorder?

Posted by jt on May 24, 2001 at 15:18:21:

In Reply to: Anxiety Disorder? posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

YOUR IN THE RIGHT PLACE- I'D GET DR STOLLS BOOK, READ IT AND DO S/R PROPERLY EVERYDAY- YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR IN FOR IF THIS GETS OUT OF HAND AND BELEIVE ME YOU DONT WANT TO FIND OUT.



Re: Anxiety Disorder? JT

Posted by Kimberly on May 24, 2001 at 15:44:07:

In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Disorder? posted by jt on May 24, 2001 at 15:18:21:

I do believe that SR is great for anxiety , but when your experiencing anxiety disorder, sometimes it's hard to settle down long enough to do the SR. I think that some people need a little extra help to calm themselves down, first. That is where the Amino Acids come in...GABA, TAURINE, GLYCEINE. Over time and many stresses, your body becomes depleted of the calming neurotransmitters, which come from your amino acids. Don't forget Calcium/Magnesium/and a good Multi-Vitamin with lots of B's. Don't get me wrong Billie also believes in SR, but she also believes that you have to fix the deficiencies too.



I tried Amino Acids but....

Posted by feeling better on May 24, 2001 at 21:23:37:

In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Disorder? JT posted by Kimberly on May 24, 2001 at 15:44:07:

I tried GABA, 5-HTP and assorted other things but what helped me the most with depression and anxiety was Sam-e and it works very quicky for most people! I know everybody is different but you might want to check this out along with SR



Re: I tried Amino Acids but....

Posted by beegs on May 24, 2001 at 22:06:58:

In Reply to: I tried Amino Acids but.... posted by feeling better on May 24, 2001 at 21:23:37:


i have read alot on sam e and aminos, in your opinon, does same work on pain,like anti depresssants do?i have pan ,thats how my anxiety manifest tself,and a nerologist said to take antidepresants. also, which brand of sam e,and what dosage and price do ou use?



Re: Anxiety Disorder?

Posted by Peter B on May 24, 2001 at 23:01:04:

In Reply to: Anxiety Disorder? posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

Jon,
You're not alone. I have panic attacks. My triggers are not quite the same, though. I take several kava capsules before going into meetings at work. It helps. I've always felt, instinctively, that counseling would not address this problem. Apparently, that has been your experience. I believe the brain gets wired through stress or trauma during childhood. Later, some weird signals get generated that take on a life of their own. I'm sure SR would be a tremendous benefit, I haven't gotten that far yet. Good luck.

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Beegs...

Posted by feeling better on May 24, 2001 at 23:05:59:

In Reply to: Re: I tried Amino Acids but.... posted by beegs on May 24, 2001 at 22:06:58:

Do a search online for the Newsweek article on Sam-e
Sorry I don't have the website address... try www.google.com
They say not all brands have the quality of sam-e you need. There was a few recommended brands GNC and Nature Made (available via K-Mart) is all I recall now. I use those barnds. Its not cheap and you need to take a minimum of 400 mg. once a day on an empty stomach. GNC offers a monthly 20% off day if you buy their membership card (cost $15. per year) plus sometimes they offer sale prices on top of the 20 % discount! K- Mart recently had "buy one/get one free" on their Nature Made products... so if you go that route you save money but chances are regular prices run around $40. for a months supply.
Don't know how it works for pain... all you can do is try. All I know is it worked within a mere 2 weeks for me to get rid of a serious 2 year bout of depression/anxiety and it restored my energy! No side effects altho it can upset some peoples stomachs. I had no problems. Bonus... its good for the liver and arthritis! So hey! Maybe it works with pain??? If you try it let us know how it goes for you! Best Wishes!!!



Re: Beegs...

Posted by beegs on May 24, 2001 at 23:37:12:

In Reply to: Beegs... posted by feeling better on May 24, 2001 at 23:05:59:


thanks so much. i read that the only pure form was from taly and germany, it cost 18 for 20 200 mg pills, thats like 18 bucks a week. so i may try it. thanks again. also, i have bad anxiety for years,it really helped for anxiety also? i tried 5htp for only a little while, with no luck.



Re: Anxiety Disorder? JT

Posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 23:53:31:

In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Disorder? JT posted by Kimberly on May 24, 2001 at 15:44:07:

Thanks.

Ironically, I am pretty calm when there is no stressful situation and am able to relax. I guess you could say my emotions are the ying and yang of emotions. I just need something to help with the stressful ones; I seem to be haunted with paranoid thoughts, like that everyone is against me. My father had them too. I guess it runs in the family.

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Re: Anxiety Disorder?

Posted by Davetx on May 25, 2001 at 00:05:48:

In Reply to: Anxiety Disorder? posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

Jon, JT is giving great advice in my opinion, it only gets worse as you get older. Some folks I know with this problem have gotten noticeable help within 2 weeks with flax oil and passion flower. Just a suggestion for you to try. Good luck

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Feeling Better, what is in Sam e, and where do you buy it?nmi

Posted by Kimberly on May 25, 2001 at 11:21:51:

In Reply to: I tried Amino Acids but.... posted by feeling better on May 24, 2001 at 21:23:37:





Jon

Posted by Kimberly on May 25, 2001 at 11:27:02:

In Reply to: Anxiety Disorder? posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

When I first starting having anxiety attacks and symptoms like you described, they put me on Inderal, which is a perscription drug that blocks your adrenaline, but I would try all other natural alternatives first, besides it makes you feel kind of weird....week or something! Natural is better if you can find something that works. I think I've read before that Vitamin C is what helps turn off your flight or fight reaction!
Good Luck, keep us posted!

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What is Sam-e, its uses, warnings...

Posted by F.B. on May 25, 2001 at 12:05:14:

In Reply to: Feeling Better, what is in Sam e, and where do you buy it?nmi posted by Kimberly on May 25, 2001 at 11:21:51:

S-adenosylmethionine is an important physiological agent formed in the body by combining the essential amino acidsmethione with adenosyl-triphosphate. It is something your body manufactures but tissue levels are typically low in in the elderly and in people suffering from depression/anxiety, osteroarthritis, and various liver diseases.

Principle uses: depression/anxiety, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia and migraine headaches.

Safety issues: No significant side effects have been reported with oral Sam-e other than occasional nausea and gastrointestinal disturbances. However individuals with bipolar (manic depression) should not take Sam-e unless under strict medical supervision. Sam-e's antidepressant activitys may lead to to the manic phase in these individuals. The effect is exclusive to some individuals with bipolar depression.

It is available via health food stores, GNC and discount stores such as K-Mart. See above posts for further details on the recommended brands...GNC and Nature Made.

Do a search on www.google.com for more info. Try to find the Newsweek article on it as it has lots of info.

Hope this helps~

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Yes!! Sam-e worked wonderful for me to eliminate anxiety! nmi

Posted by feeling better on May 25, 2001 at 12:10:26:

In Reply to: Re: Beegs... posted by beegs on May 24, 2001 at 23:37:12:

mmmmmm

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Re: Anxiety Disorder? (Archive in brain chemistry.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 26, 2001 at 09:51:00:

In Reply to: Anxiety Disorder? posted by Jon on May 24, 2001 at 14:21:24:

Hi, Jon.

First, you need to understand the problem to have ANY chance of choosing the best thing for you to do.

Start with the archives about brain chemistry and then go to panic attacks.

Finally you need to fully understand what happens to the chemical factory in the hypothalamus when you have CHRONIC stress-effect storage there. Acute FOF is just a trigger for an already loaded gun! For that you will need to go to the archives and home page for stress and read either Selye's book OR Pelletier's book.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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