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For Judy - re hyperactivity

Posted by Eugenia on August 15, 2001 at 11:22:48:

I was interested in your input on the subject of hyperactivity. My pre-teen daughter is hyperactive, yet does quite well in school and is able to concentrate. It mostly manifests itself in her impulsive behavior, nervous motions and quick temper. Other than that, she's sweet, affectionate and such a good kid. I'm working on meditating with her to get her to relax, though it's hard to find the time. She has eliminated the food she is sensitive to in order to help her digestive problems and she seems to be in better health now. But this problem which she's always had makes her immature and socially awkward and I am very concerned about her, and don't know the reasons for this behavior. Do you have any advice?
Thank you for helping so many people on the board!



Re: For Judy - re hyperactivity

Posted by Carmen on August 16, 2001 at 21:15:16:

In Reply to: For Judy - re hyperactivity posted by Eugenia on August 15, 2001 at 11:22:48:

Eugenia,
Your daughter sounds very much like mine. She did well in school because of an excellent memory but the impulsiveness and restlessness were there. She is now 28 and has difficulty managing her life. (Not trying to discourage you) We have found that certain amino acids seem to help her. If you would like to email me I will give you further information. I am not trying to sell anything.

ramseyca@hotmail.com



Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity

Posted by Eugenia on August 17, 2001 at 11:39:11:

In Reply to: Re: For Judy - re hyperactivity posted by Carmen on August 16, 2001 at 21:15:16:

Thank you very much for your response! I know that there are many people out there who have kids with the same problem - sort of borderline ADHD, but not diagnosed as such. I feel that a lot of them may be interested in reading about this on the board and contributing too, so perhaps if it's okay with you for the time being we can start by posting on the board.
I'm sorry to hear about the problems with your daughter and am very interested in anything you have to say about that and the use of amino acids and what you and your daughter have done to manage the situation.



Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity

Posted by CArmen on August 17, 2001 at 22:00:26:

In Reply to: Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity posted by Eugenia on August 17, 2001 at 11:39:11:

One of the books that we got helpful information from was called Diet Cure by Julia Ross. It lists the different brain problems and what amino acids are helpful. L-tyrosine and L-phenylaline seem the two that are most often recommended for ADD. The B-complex vitamins as well as EFA are also helpful. Staying away from refined foods and especially sugar helps. Another interesting book is Change Your Brain, Change Your Life by Daniel Amen.



Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity

Posted by Eugenia on August 17, 2001 at 22:31:42:

In Reply to: Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity posted by CArmen on August 17, 2001 at 22:00:26:

How is your daughter doing? Did changing her diet make a big difference in her symptoms and behavior?
Thank you for the information - I'll be sure to look for Julia Ross and Daniel Amen's books.



Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity

Posted by Carmen on August 18, 2001 at 16:52:09:

In Reply to: Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity posted by Eugenia on August 17, 2001 at 22:31:42:

Eugenia,
She had been very depressed at one time and was on Effexor for that. We were able to get her off of the medication(it altered her personality too much) with the use of the vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. She seems to be functioning better now; however, she has not been taking them over the past several months. When I saw her last, I could tell that she was much more fidgety. She was also not sleeping well which has always been a problem for her. That's a sign that the brain chemistry is probably out of whack, and then the lack of sleep aggravates. It becomes a vicious cycle. I'm sure she will never be an easy going calm person, but she did make progress when she took those things and watched her diet. She has a hard time with diet because of the job she is in. She works at a group home for girls who have been in trouble with the law. They have to eat what's given. One of the problems that she faced was because of her hyperactivity, she had a harder time being accepted, which I think contributed to the depression. She's also very disorganized and therefore experienced much frustration just trying to manage her life on her own. It was not until she went out on her own that we began to see the severe problems. She had been a rather difficult baby and was never still as a child, but she did seem to be able to function in school. I am a teacher and can recognize ADD pretty easily. Because she didn't have problems in school, we never pursued the Ritalin. I am very much opposed to it except in extreme cases. She was impulsive and often made poor decisions because of that. She has a hard time thinking of the consequences of her actions until it's too late. That has been the hardest thing for me, because I am so opposite. I think everything through!!




Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity, chiropractic, etc.

Posted by Eugenia on August 18, 2001 at 21:18:30:

In Reply to: Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity posted by Carmen on August 18, 2001 at 16:52:09:

I understand what you say about being against Ritalin except in extreme cases. I never knew whether or not to get her tested and to look into giving her Ritalin or Adderal, and whether I was doing her a disservice by not pursuing it. My nephew is on Ritalin and it changed his life very much for the better, but he was a bright boy with very poor school performance until he finally got on it and he wasn't hyperactive. My daughter seems to just have the 'H' and not the 'ADD' if that's possible. I never see anything written about THAT. As she does well in school and is creative, I thought the pills might interfere with her talents and not really change her maturity and problem with restlessness, which are the main things that needs changing. It's not such an obvious thing unless you live with her.
I often wonder if a chiropractor could do something to help. Did you do the research and treat her on your own, or did a doctor or chiropractor/naturopath help? You mentioned essential fatty acids - did you use an oil? Flaxseed oil has such a bitter taste and I can't find a way to give it to her. Do you know how much of the EFA's should be given?
Has your daughter been doing SR? That seems to be the one thing that everyone on this board recommends for almost everything, including balancing brain chemistry. Today I bought the book Meditating With Children, which Dr. Stoll has often recommended. I can see it's going to be a challenge to work that in every day, but I'll try. I plan to pick up one of the books you recommended, though cutting out sweets will be even MORE of a challenge.
It sounds like your daughter is a caring person. I hope that she gets back on the diet, gets rest and feels better soon.
It's so easy to think that kids will just grow out of it - that's why hearing from you was so important.
Thank you for taking the time to write. I hope that others will also join the discussion.

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Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity (Archive in brain chemistry.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 19, 2001 at 09:04:19:

In Reply to: Re: For Carmen - re hyperactivity posted by Carmen on August 18, 2001 at 16:52:09:

Hi, Carmen.

This is one of the problems with the intentional ignorance of the ruling "medical paradigm"! If the causes are addressed before the age of 4, there is little or no psychological overlay to complicate things or treat. However, every year after that complicates the problem so that EVEN IF ALL OF THE CAUSES ARE ADDRESSED, the child is likely to react like yours and even stop taking what is so obviously helping. This is when counseling has to be instituted: any time after the age of 4 depending upon how much psychological damage has occurred.

Hope this is making sense to you and to anyone else who is catching the causes earlier.

Namaste`

Walt

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