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Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????)

Posted by
GB in philly on September 23, 2001 at 00:34:23:

My wife has gone through a series of changes(symptoms) in the last year or so. She has become sort of depressed not the sad version but the hopeless version of it. She also has very low sex drive and low-energy. Her hair falls out faster than it grows so it is thinning badly. She is thin and has not much of an appetite. She takes a multi-vitamin every day. She is very controlling and wants me to always be around so she can ignore me. she gets really jealous when she ignores me and I talk to other people(women) She seems to have lost the capacity to enjoy things. (food,sex,friends) she does enjoy talking on the phone to a faraway friend. But the reason I am writing is that all of a sudden she has a new fear of dogs any kind tiny little dogs big dogs any kind. She seems to think they can tell she is afraid and that makes her more afraid even of our own 15 pound little dog that has no teeth. She lost her job recently so she has no insurance. Before she lost her job she was tested for Thyroid problems but the tests were inconclusive other than it is swollen slightly. She does a wonderful job with our kids but even that is stressing her out. I am home with her all day with the kids and try to help out but she undermines me and wants everything done her way which stresses her out more. I am sure she needs to see a pyschologist as well as a follow up on her tests but is it possible she is not getting proper nutrition and/or her body is not absorbing it properly. The dog thing threw me for a loop because it was sudden and pretty unnerving. I am not a dog lover and find myself anxious around other peoples animals that I don't know but she is having problems with our neighbors new puppy. HELP if you can. She refuses to get medical assistance and brushes me off when I try to help/talk to her.
GB



Re: Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????)

Posted by Vince F on September 23, 2001 at 03:59:19:

In Reply to: Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????) posted by GB in philly on September 23, 2001 at 00:34:23:

sounds like your wife needs help. On the dog thing, if she
doesn't like dogs or animals then geting her to interact
would be tough. A dog with NO teeth shouldn't be a problem
but sounds like she is thinking for the dog. A puppy can be
difficult since they are frisky and jump and grab things
with their teeth to play and learn.

VF

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Re: Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????)

Posted by Raisa on September 23, 2001 at 09:51:49:

In Reply to: Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????) posted by GB in philly on September 23, 2001 at 00:34:23:

Hi, GB - It sounds to me as if you and your wife both need help. Can your doctor refer you to a psychologist so that you can try to find out what is causing all this? You could go alone to try to learn how to cope. The anxiety about the dog is just one additional problem. If you take care of the whole problem that will go away too. Do you belong to a church? Do you have a good friend to talk to?
How about talking to your wife's phone friend - maybe she tells her things she wouldn't tell you which might help you to help her. Raisa

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I may be wrong....

Posted by LT on September 23, 2001 at 23:01:37:

In Reply to: Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????) posted by GB in philly on September 23, 2001 at 00:34:23:

but it seems so clear that this is really a thyroid problem. Did you know that people have been committed to mental institutions when all they needed was thyroid replacement????

Your wife has OBVIOUS thyroid symptoms. The swelling is also an important symptom (I have this too). Since her tests were borderline, and anyone that has been around thryoid tests can tell you, they aren't all that accurate. There is also a question of whether the doctor ordered the correct tests -- do you have a copy of the results? To me, it adds together like this:
symptoms + funny test results = this is the place to start.

Thyroid problems can ulitmately affect every system in the body, including the mental facilities. This really needs to be addressed first.



link: thyroid dysfunction and mental disorders.....

Posted by LT on September 24, 2001 at 02:37:02:

In Reply to: I may be wrong.... posted by LT on September 23, 2001 at 23:01:37:




Re: link: thyroid dysfunction and mental disorders.....

Posted by Raisa on September 24, 2001 at 07:54:40:

In Reply to: link: thyroid dysfunction and mental disorders..... posted by LT on September 24, 2001 at 02:37:02:

Hi, LT - That article is very informative! It's interesting that drugs such as Lithium can cause hypothyroidism. I bet most doctors never check the thyroid levels of patients on these drugs. And I don't think thyroid tests are covered by most health insurance companies, so that doctors usually don't think order them (they're too busy or something!). I do know that some doctors prescribe thyroid medication and then never bother to have thyroid function tested again. They just keep raising the dose each time the patient complains. It's best to go to an endocrinologist, don't you think?
I hope GB will look into this. Raisa



Raisa strikes again

Posted by Mike on September 24, 2001 at 12:26:46:

In Reply to: Re: link: thyroid dysfunction and mental disorders..... posted by Raisa on September 24, 2001 at 07:54:40:

as usual, Raisa you dont know what youre talking about. Insurance companies pay for thyroid tests.

You must be some bored old woman with nothing better to do thn post on this board. Why dont you wait until you have something useful to contribute before opning your big mouth.



absolutely agree...

Posted by LT on September 24, 2001 at 13:31:07:

In Reply to: Re: link: thyroid dysfunction and mental disorders..... posted by Raisa on September 24, 2001 at 07:54:40:

I would think an endo appointment very important here -- but it's hard to find a good one. The first one I saw was lame and kept me miserable for years -- kept my TSH way too high. The second one treats according to the symptoms and it's been a dramatic difference. Sure hope that GB's wife gets some help soon!



Re: absolutely agree...

Posted by Raisa on September 24, 2001 at 14:17:53:

In Reply to: absolutely agree... posted by LT on September 24, 2001 at 13:31:07:

Me, too. No matter what is causing this, it's certainly not getting better! He said she refuses to go to a doctor now, and that's why I thought that maybe her long-distance phone friend might be able to help since she talks to her/him often.
I've been meaning to write you to tell you that I went to a Boston Terrier dog show a couple of weeks ago, and one of the owners of a show dog's dog had just recovered from Lyme!
I couldn't find him after the show but have been trying to find out more information. Another owner has had several dogs who have had Ehrlichiosis tick disease, whatever that is. I'll let you know when I hear from them. Raisa



Don't bother reading the above, Raisa.

Posted by Sally on September 24, 2001 at 18:14:57:

In Reply to: Raisa strikes again posted by Mike on September 24, 2001 at 12:26:46:

I find many of your comments consoling and helpful.



Re: Don't bother reading the above, Raisa.

Posted by Raisa on September 24, 2001 at 18:49:35:

In Reply to: Don't bother reading the above, Raisa. posted by Sally on September 24, 2001 at 18:14:57:

Thank you for posting, Sally - I did read Mike's post but decided to ignore it. I don't think there is an age limit or a medical profession requirement or even an educational level requirement to be on this board, is there? :o) I guess he missed his SR session! Thanks again. Raisa

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Bravo, Mike! That needed to be said. She's annoying.

Posted by Observer on September 24, 2001 at 23:33:25:

In Reply to: Raisa strikes again posted by Mike on September 24, 2001 at 12:26:46:

no text



Re: Dog phobias(ANYONE ?????) (Archive in brain cnemistry.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 25, 2001 at 09:12:51:

In Reply to: Dog anxiety(ANYONE ?????) posted by GB in philly on September 23, 2001 at 00:34:23:

Hi, GB.

ALL that you have mentioned is now known to be caused by a progressive brain chemistry imbalance. It started with typical depression and has now progressed to phobias. You could start with the archives about brain chemistry.

However, what makes you think she will listen to anything you say about it?

This is a desperate situation that can only come to an unhappy end UNLESS you can get her to start learning what is happening to her. The only thing I can say for sure is that next month, and every month thereafter, it will be harder & harder to get through to her.

This may well end up with your having to commit her for treatment. Then she will be given serious medications that will give her one more chance to deal with her causes. If she does not take THAT opportunity, she will end up on heavy doses of medications for the rest of her life.

Good luck.

Walt

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Re: Bravo, Mike! That needed to be said. She's annoying.

Posted by Raisa to Observer on September 25, 2001 at 15:50:16:

In Reply to: Bravo, Mike! That needed to be said. She's annoying. posted by Observer on September 24, 2001 at 23:33:25:

Hi,Observer -I would have ignored "Mike"; but now that you have given your opinion, I will stop posting. Thanks for being truthful - I sincerely had no idea that I was annoying people. Raisa



Thank you all.....raisa

Posted by
GB in philly on September 26, 2001 at 21:39:02:

In Reply to: Re: Bravo, Mike! That needed to be said. She's annoying. posted by Raisa to Observer on September 25, 2001 at 15:50:16:

Thanks for the info and I would especially like to thank Raisa for her contributions. I myself write to this BB for info any info that kind people are willing to share their insight or experiences with me. I also read and share my insights when I think I may be helpful. I ma not a doctor or have any specialized degrees in healthcare. I am however human and if my experiences can help some one I will take the chance of being called annoying.
BRAVO Raisa and Thanks to everyone that was kind enough to take the time and share with me their experiences.



Ignore the detractors Raisa

Posted by Roy on September 26, 2001 at 22:47:19:

In Reply to: Re: Bravo, Mike! That needed to be said. She's annoying. posted by Raisa to Observer on September 25, 2001 at 15:50:16:

The occasional kudos from Dr.Stoll to you should be reassurance enough that you make worthwhile contributions to this board.



Re: Ignore the detractors Raisa

Posted by Raisa on September 27, 2001 at 14:04:17:

In Reply to: Ignore the detractors Raisa posted by Roy on September 26, 2001 at 22:47:19:

Thank you, GB and Roy for your kind comments. As I get better at doing SR, I'm sure I'll be better able to take derogatory remarks which are handed out by people I would never want to be friends with if I met them in person.
This has been my first experience with an internet site board, and I was warned when I started that there would be "troll types", as labrat calls them; but I was caught off-guard. Thank you, and also Sally, again for your support. I really appreciate it and will continue to post and learn. Raisa

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Raisa sucks! NMI

Posted by Angie on September 28, 2001 at 06:11:47:

In Reply to: Thank you all.....raisa posted by GB in philly on September 26, 2001 at 21:39:02:


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those are nasty diseases....

Posted by LT on September 29, 2001 at 00:38:46:

In Reply to: Re: absolutely agree... posted by Raisa on September 24, 2001 at 14:17:53:

definitely they've won a few wars if their dogs have recovered!



Re: those are nasty diseases....

Posted by Raisa on October 02, 2001 at 19:20:29:

In Reply to: those are nasty diseases.... posted by LT on September 29, 2001 at 00:38:46:

Hi, LT -
I finally got in touch with the owner of the Bostons who had Lyme and Ehrlichiosis. They have 23 dogs right now!.
The one who had Ehrlichiosis didn't make it because they had an incompetent vet. The vet said that the dog must have been injured somehow (she had lameness and back problems and would stand in the middle of the floor and stare up--does that sound like an injury???)and refused to do any other tests. He gave her dog steroids, which she said was the worst thing they could have done. The dog then got convulsions, and the vet said that they were caused by the pain! Finally, one of her friends said he thought it could be from a tick bite. They went to another vet who tested and found it, in fact, was Ehrlichiosis. It was too late to save her pup.
The dog who was cured of Lyme disease also had lameness, and they immediately asked for Docycycline (sp?). They then had the dog tested and the test was positive for Lyme. The dog has been well for 10 weeks now and she is showing her.
But she keeps giving her echinacea and vitamin C to try to build up her immune system, hoping that she will not have a relapse. They live near Boston,MA, and apparently the deer ticks are abundant around there. I told her about your dog getting Lyme from the vaccination, which is so sad! And I told her how well you are caring for her so that she is not suffering. These experiences are good for us dog owners to know, so I wanted to share this one with you. And thanks for answering my post! Raisa

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Lyme

Posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 02:43:40:

In Reply to: those are nasty diseases.... posted by LT on September 29, 2001 at 00:38:46:

caught part of a show on public radio from the netherlands
talking about Lyme and they seemed to have said that
sometimes it Can't be cured. They gave a URL of, rnw.nl but
I couldn't get to it but a searck of the URL with Lyme on
the line took me to a list of sties. Figured it might be of
interest to you. I didn't know that lyme had crossed the
ocean.

VF



Re: Lyme

Posted by Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 09:26:36:

In Reply to: Lyme posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 02:43:40:

Hi, Vince - The owner of the Bostons I spoke to yesterday said she always has Doxycycline pills at home and carries them when she travels to dog shows just in case her dog has a relapse. I forgot to ask how many times she has felt the need to use it. She realizes that it could come back. She has a friend who is always having relapses. My son has been fine for three years now, so I'm hoping his was cured, but one never knows. I think that having the antibiotic with her makes her feel that at least there is something she can do if her little dog shows any signs of illness. I am in an area which has many deer, but my Ellie isn't out that much, so I hope she's safe, but I do worry! LT takes great care of her dog--I really admire her. It can't be an easy job. It's just so sad that her dog got it from trying to avoid it!!! Raisa



Re: Lyme

Posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 11:10:45:

In Reply to: Re: Lyme posted by Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 09:26:36:

Raisa,

I did hear a bit of the show and Think they said that the
bacteria can hide and form cysts or something. Wish I would
have paid more attantion but I didn't think News from the
Netherlands would be talking about Lyme.

My guys have been scratching a bit and even though the
weather is changing I put a drop of Bio Spot on them which
got rid of fleas in one day using the recomended dose of 2ml
It is supposed to kill and repel fleas, ticks, and mosquitos
I bought enought for 1 summer 3 yrs ago, applying it once
a month and only dosed them one mo. so have a Bunch left.
I don't get them out to parks so haven't treated them. I
used to use a spray, flea and tick repellant before walks
in the parks that worked but them not geting any and me
becoming sensitive to the smell of it I stoped using it and
they got fleas. I don't have a problem unless a stray cat
comes in the yard or something like that.

VF



Re: Lyme

Posted by Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 14:32:30:

In Reply to: Re: Lyme posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 11:10:45:

Hi, again - Sure hope some company will develop a drug or discover an herb which will rid the body of the Lyme bacteria. I use Frontline to keep the fleas and ticks away. The vet wants us to use it plus give the Heartworm pill all year, but I only give it during the summer. I don't have any faith in my vet and am looking for one I can have confidence in. We used to have a holistic vet, but he's not around any longer.
Maybe that program you saw will be repeated. I remember someone saying that the spirochete buries itself inside the body. Still, I would think that all those hiding could eventually be killed somehow. I haven't seen it mentioned in the news as much this year as in the past, but I know it's still doing lots of harm. Raisa



Re: Lyme

Posted by Vince, where do you buy Bio Spot? nmi Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 14:35:55:

In Reply to: Re: Lyme posted by Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 14:32:30:




Re: Lyme

Posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 17:03:10:

In Reply to: Re: Lyme posted by Vince, where do you buy Bio Spot? nmi Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 14:35:55:

Raisa. I got it from Foster & Smith's vet catalog. Their URL
is, drsfostersmith.com. It turned out i bought a Lot more
than I needed since I also bought a yard and a carpet spray
but haven't used them and my guys are the worst for geting
fleas with Long Black hair so no way to flea comb or see
them. They still haven't scratched today.

VF

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Re: Lyme

Posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 17:19:39:

In Reply to: Re: Lyme posted by Vince, where do you buy Bio Spot? nmi Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 14:35:55:

I tried geting to F&S's web site and I couldn't access it
but got to R.C. Steel's and they have the Bio Spot. There is
an identical product called, Breakthru.

VF



Re: Lyme

Posted by Raisa on October 03, 2001 at 17:26:44:

In Reply to: Re: Lyme posted by Vince F on October 03, 2001 at 17:19:39:

Thanks, Vince,
I get both of those catalogs. I don't like to order online, so I'll look for one of my catalogs. One drop of BioSpot sounds much better than the poison I'm putting on Ellie's skin! Thanks again! Raisa

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