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John P, my husband's brother, a retired Air Force/airline pilot, visited us last week. He told the following story:
Two years ago, because of arthritis problems with his knee (when just a youngster he'd had to have his knee operated on and cartilege scraped), John was about ready to go in for knee replacement surgery, but before that happened he and his wife took a trip to Europe. While on a cruise from Vienna to Frankfurt (?) he had the opportunity to meet many of the people on the boat, as there was no assigned seating on the cruise.
Several people on the cruise asked him the same thing, "Have you taken your raisins today?" (said with a heavy German accent)
The first few times he just smiled and thought, "Those crazy Germans, Austrians," and went on his way. About the third time he was asked this question, he inquired about what they were talking about. He was told that white raisins, soaked in gin and taken three raisins, three times a day, removed arthritis pain.
John had been having a lot of trouble with his knee on the trip and so, upon arriving home, purchased a box of white raisins at the grocery store, got a bottle of the cheapest gin he could find, and emptied both into an empty mayonnaise jar. He began to take three raisins, three times a day. His knee pain disappeared. Knee replacement surgery was no longer considered.
A few months later he went on another trip to visit friends, and a few days into the visit his knee began to swell up "like a football" and he realized he'd forgotten his raisins. He went to the store and purchased the ingredients and once he began taking the raisins again became pain free.
I know this sounds nuts, but John is not a nut. He's very intelligent and capable and I also interrogated his wife and she verified his story.
Since we were in the midst of a mini-family reunion, we took a trip to visit Uncle Bill, 89 years young, and a retired surgeon. He was in private practice for 37 years, and will be the first to tell you that he was never sued and never lost a patient on the operating table. In fact, he will tell you this many many times if you stick around long enough. He says he knew from the time he was five years old he was going to be a doctor. Anyway, I made John tell his Uncle Bill about the raisins and ask him his opinion. He said that if you believe it will help, it will. So, he wasn't a whole lot of help in the explanation department on this raisin cure.
I include the opinion of Doctor Bill only to let the readers of this bulletin board know that I have done all I can to investigate the validity of this claim. I know it's not much. I cannot personally confirm or deny this cure as I have no arthritis. I did taste one raisin out of John's traveling jar that he carries with him on trips and although I despise the taste of alcohol and gin is the worst, it wasn't too bad. I also gave one to the dog, as she is getting a bit wobbly and although it took three tries to get it down she didn't have a problem with it. I think if one is a recovering alcoholic, it's probably not a good idea to try this particular cure.
Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I've gained so much from this website, I would be derelict in my duty if I didn't pass this one along.
Dr. Stoll, do you have any comments about this?
And dear readers, you are welcome to speak your minds, I'm only sharing what I heard. It's been about two weeks since John was here, and I've been arguing with myself about posting this. However, if someone, even one person, gains freedom from pain and freedom of movement, I think it's been worth my time and effort to type this.
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
I have no idea if the raisins could help but sounds
like a simple thing to try and I would if I
couldn't get rid of my knee pains for long periods.
Heard a warning about giving raisins to dogs from
a breed list member and I can't remember what it
was Supposed to cause but Might be something to
look up. Not that I believe it since I know
people who give them as treats with No problem. It
came up in a discussion where people were saying
that onions were lethal to them though they never
heard thathey are in the garlic family and Both can
cause anemia from thining the blood by damaging
RBC's and people give Loads of garlic so must not
affect any but rare, Sensitive ones who must be
allergic.
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
Thanks, Alexandria.
I had heard this long ago but have never tried it.
I would be intereseted in hearing from anyone else who tries it.
It matches some of my main criteria for stuff like this: cheap, perfectly harmless, pretty quickly effective and easy to find.
I would not call it a "cure", yet, however.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
Paul Harvey has been promoting this treatment for arthritis on his daily radio program for years. I would bet that a lot of his listeners have heard this and tried it. He has a loyal following.
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
My mother used the white raisens and gin for bone pain. She declared it worked. The family laught and said she was feeling no pain because the gin was kicking in. When she stop the raisen and gin the pain returned. She's a believer of this stuff.
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
My mother used the white raisens and gin for bone pain. She declared it worked. The family laugh and said she was feeling no pain because the gin was kicking in. When she stop the raisen and gin the pain returned. She's a believer of this stuff.
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
Hi Alexandria:
I know about this raisin remedy. I tried it about 2 years ago. It didn't help me though. However, the raisins tasted good after they were soaked in gin. I might give it another try. Maybe this time it'll work :-)
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
Wonder if this works with ANY or ALL types of arthritis; there are many different kinds, ya know, and the rheumatoid and psoriatic are the worst IMHO.
Frankly, I think it's the analgesic effect of the gin perhaps coupled with some anti-inflammatory component of this conmbination.
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
I tried it, along with my mother, to see if it would help for arthritis and fibromyalgia pain. This was about 7 years ago though. Sadly, it didn't work. We kept up the regimen for about a month. We were told that improvements should have been noted in days or possibly a week or two. We experienced none.
-HY
In Reply to: Arthritis Cure posted by Alexandria Dumas on February 18, 2003 at 23:50:38:
After reading your post, I decided to make up a batch for my grandmother, who has severe arthritis in her knees, and refuses to go to a dr. She's so sharp & lively for her age, it bothers me to see her incapacited by this. I'm going to see her in a few days, so I'll post a message if it works for her. I tried it myself, since I have had mild arthritis since my 20s and my hands have been really hurting the past 2 weeks with the weather. After one day, the pain has improved quite dramatically. Still a little stiff, but almost no pain. I guess it works for some, but not others, unfortunately. Thanks for posting! Maybe it'll change my grandmother's life for the better...if I can get her to even EAT the raisins = )
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