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Every time I take my husband to the doctor, the nurse BEGS ME to start taking a baby aspirin every day to keep the same from happening to ME. I told her I don't eat like 90% of the people in this country. But she won't hear of it. And now I'm becoming unsure of myself. I've of course heard of this kind of "preventative" over the years. Dr. Stoll, should I give in? What is YOUR opinion on taking aspirin as a preventative (as if I didn't know... or do I?)
Things are going fine with us. Slow but steady progress.
Rosemarie
In Reply to: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? posted by Rosemarie on March 07, 2001 at 22:15:34:
Rosemarie,
good to hear your husband is making progress. Are you still
bouncing ??
Aspirin is supposed to thin the blood and prevent clots
but what if your blood is already thin ?? Too thin and we
hemmorage and garlic and onions thin the blood. I think I
would want to know how my blood was. I take aspirins when I
feel I need them and not always for pains. With my injury I
used to have a hard time geting started doing things and
there may have been aches stoping me or maybe my blood was
thick since I am Supposed to have damaged blood cells so
when the aspirins would help me get moving I took them or
for pains but I would want to find out where i stood if
possible before taking something on a regular basis to Try
to prevent something so I didn't cause a similar problem.
Luckily I have been doing things without having to prime
myself with all kinds of things so IF my blood was thick it
doesn't seem like it is now or I don't have the same aches.
Funny, since I have been doing work I haven't lifted weights
or rebounded But I am trying to straighten the basement so
I can Build a rack and bench to lift and items I want to
remodel my house. Guess I'm not up to doing both.
VF
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? posted by Vince F on March 08, 2001 at 02:35:29:
Good point, Vince. I'm having a complete checkup in two weeks. Yes I'm still bouncing!
PS, don't forget to take good care of those hounds of yours!
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? posted by Rosemarie on March 08, 2001 at 09:04:04:
Rose,
I wonder how they could tell if blood was too thick
except for a circulation problem but it seems it could come
and go but I'd rather treat a problem than try to prevent
one that might not be there.
Yea, I try to keep the hounds happy and let them go read VF
In Reply to: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? posted by Rosemarie on March 07, 2001 at 22:15:34:
Hi, Rosemarie.
It sounds like this nurse thinks that aspirin is the only way to prevent stroke. A baby aspirin a day is not likely to cause much harm. I wonder if the nurse has ever studied the harm that aspirin does to everyone?
Conventional medicine has taught (for the past 100 years) that NOTHING can prevent strokes or heart attacks but supressive medication.
Aspirin IS indicated for those people with several predisposing causes for stroke: hypertension, smoking, atherosclerosis, high cholesterol or homecysteinemia, heavy drinker, etc. However, with those who follow a healthy lifestyle, the aspirin would cause more damage than it could possibly help.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Walt Stoll on March 09, 2001 at 09:21:59:
Walt, if you don't mind my asking, what kind of damage can aspirin cause?
Joanie
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Joanie on March 09, 2001 at 10:34:19:
Joanie,
I believe aspirin can Cause a stoke by thining the blood too VF
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Joanie on March 09, 2001 at 10:34:19:
Hi, Joanie.
The only way you can get the whole story is to get a pharmacology text from your library and look it up. Be sure it has been published in the past year because the "previously unknown" damages are just now being discovered.
Let us know what you learn.
Just off the top of my head: aspirin interferes with prosaglandin metabolisn which has something to do with how the body handles inflammation. That seems to be how it helps arthritic and some pain symptoms. Unfortunately that is also what the person uses as the first line of defense against cancer, etc. Besides, aspirin damages the intestinal lining. That has been known for 50+ years and the only thing conventional medicine thought about was the blood loss once there was enough damage to practically exsanguinate the person. Now that we know about LGS, all the things that naturally flow from THAT condition are made worse by small doses of aspirin. It has been known for years that arthritis progresses faster in those who relieve their arthritic pain with aspirin for years. The beat goes on!
Even so, if the person is in immediate danger of a stroke or coronary, it may be worth their while to take a baby aspirin at least 3 times a week since it keeps the platelets from being normally sticky. The idea is to start the aspirin for immediate risk reduction while doing chelation & following the Pritikin or Ornish program. Then , in a year, one can stop the aspirin perfectly safely.
Hope this helps.
Let us know what you learn and know that any textbook is about 2 years behind the cutting edge of knowledge when it is printed.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Walt Stoll on March 11, 2001 at 12:33:01:
Walt,
In reading about Celebrex they clain there is a Cox-1 and Probablem is how does one know that they are in danger of I only take it for aches and when I feel I am slughish My feeling is IF something helps my function I will take VF
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Walt Stoll on March 11, 2001 at 12:33:01:
Hi Walt,
I have a touch of arthritis in my fingers occasionally, BUT I have suffered with headaches since I was 7 or 8 years old, and I'm now ALMOST 50 :( . I wonder how many bottles of aspirin I have consumed in this timeframe? Not to mention the barbiturates along with the aspirin. Heavy sigh.
Next chance I get, I'll go to the library.
Thanks.
Namaste'
Joanie
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Joanie on March 13, 2001 at 10:06:19:
Joanie, I take things for pains but am Always looking for I take aspirins when needed but have found other things VF
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Vince F on March 12, 2001 at 03:48:52:
Hi, Vince.
Research has shown that Celebrex causes more damage to the GI lining than aspirin. Reference: Functional Medicine Update (1999 or 2000). Call (800) 843-9660. If they give you any trouble, let me know & I will try to find the item in my many tapes from this reference organization.
It has just not been out long ehough to be withdrawn from the market yet (in MY opinion).
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Baby Aspirin to ward off Stroke? (Archive) posted by Walt Stoll on March 14, 2001 at 13:56:33:
Walt, I have no interest in taking Celebrex since I didn't VF
there Tree Mail and check all the bags and papers on the
sidewalk. I guess they pretend it is grass.
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Posted by Vince F on March 09, 2001 at 14:46:10:
much. It Seems like the blood vessles must be pourus and the
blood has to have a certain thickness not to leak. I guess
that is how it can exchange O2 and waste products and I guess
nutrients.
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Posted by Vince F on March 12, 2001 at 03:48:52:
2 prostaglandins and one of them is responsible for
inflamation and the other is a protector of things like the
stomach lining and aspirins are said to block Both so
relieve inflamation but Also don't protect the stomach
Thought I have heard people have died from hemmoraging while
taking Celebrex so something else must be going on.
having a stroke to decide to take aspirins for it and is
hemmoragic strokes I think aspirin is the Last thing you
want to take and it is Only good for breaking up clots.
and Can't get moving like either I have a low level, general
achiness or maybe my blood is too thick but IF they were
right that my RBC's are damaged and don't circulate well
them maybe it helps them circulate.
it and if not I am leary that it may do some damage while I
am Trying to prevent something down the road.
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Posted by Vince F on March 13, 2001 at 10:48:43:
something to cure them or a safer product. I accept that
relieving problems now could cause a bad result later in
life but will try anything that sounds like a possible help
or cure.
that seem safer and have worked better. Anything with a
warning of a problem scares me but I prefer Uncoated
aspirins because they don't bother me and work faster and I
even use them for pains in my stomach like if I have eaten
too much.
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Posted by Walt Stoll on March 14, 2001 at 13:56:33:
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Celebrex
Posted by Vince F on March 14, 2001 at 15:10:27:
think my recent knee pains were arthritis but a friend was
trying to convince me I did and that Celebrex was the best
thing to take even for tendon and ligament damage so i
looked into it and the 11 people claimed to have died from
stomach hemmoraging didn't sound too good and aspirins don't
bother me so would take them before it but now other things
like a multi amino or MSM before aspirin and my knees are
painless again.
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