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Walt,
I read your reply post (copied here below) over the holidays and it caught my attention big time. As a Mom of a young autistic boy, I would like to be able to read first hand this information about in 1999 they have proven the cause of autism. Please tell me exactly where the literature is, and how the study(ies) were done.
The roll of vaccinations is not new news to me. However, researchers are apparently very close to isolating a gene or 2 genes that cause autism. The best theory I have ever heard so far is that autism is caused by a genetic predisposition AND an environmental insult. This insult can be immunizations, antibiotics, etc. I agree about the resulting LGS!!
HERE'S YOUR POST BELOW:
Re: Happy Holidays to all.... & some recommended reading (New information about causes of Autism.)
Posted by Walt Stoll on December 24, 1999 at 11:35:33:
Thanks, Deb!
You would be interested to know that only this year have they proven (with biopsy of the intestinal lining) that Autism is almost always caused by routine immunizations and resultant LGS. Autism, if you do not know, has increased by more than 900% in the past 80 years.
Walt
In Reply to: Autism cause - your previous post posted by KMD on January 09, 2000 at 20:46:31:
Dear Dr. Stoll,
My son was autistic from birth way before any innoculations. He had a high pitched cry that rattled the nurses in the hospital as well as a stiff little body from the very beginning. How can you make such a blanket statement? I respect you a great deal but I know many other autistic individuals who were autistic from birth and even some whose parents never innoculated them because they were Christian Scientists. (I spent many years in support groups and talked to at least 100 sets of parents from their children.) I delayed my son's innoculations because he was such a handful that it was difficult to bring him to the pediatrician's office without causing havoc in the waiting room. I can buy the genetic component but not the innoculation one. Regards.
In Reply to: Re: Autism cause - your previous post posted by Maggie on January 10, 2000 at 01:52:11:
I believe there are 2 kinds of autism. The "classic" (Kanner) infantile autism in which symptoms are present from birth (such as you describe with your child) has been identified for many years. However, with the new "autism explosion", there are so many kids whose parents will tell you they were perfectly normal until they received certain vaccinations. I have heard this called the "new autism".
Autism used to affect only 1 in 10,000 births, and 3 out of 4 of those affected were male. Today we are seeing a whole new picture of autism.
My son was not "normal" from birth, as he had no eye contact and other things. However, I believe that without the environmental insults of vaccinations and antibiotics (knowing what I know now), he would now be classified as "indistinguishable" from his peers. Instead, he had 2 seizures within 3 days of his 4 month vaccinations, a third seizure on the day of his 6 month vaccinations, and a fourth seizure 2 days later. He began to develop minimal speech in an odd pattern. He got his 12 month vaccinations, and began really missing milestones. He got his 18 month vaccinations and by the time he was 2, he had lost ALL speech and was diagnosed with autism (had other symptoms of course).
Dr. Stoll, what do you think about the genetic predisposition PLUS an environmental insult as being the cause of the virtual autism explosion? It is the only thing that makes sense to me, and it ties in perfectly to what all the parents are suspecting about the vaccinations and the antibiotics and the stomach problems these kids suffer. So many of them are on GFCF diets, my son has to take stool softeners every day.
I copied and pasted your comments about the 900% increase (I think that's the correct number, going from memory) to The #Autism Channel Message Board last night. I got one reply so far which said "dubious claim" because of your saying "past 80 years", as the reply lady said autism was only classified 40 years ago, which I think is true... Even if the 80 years part is not correct, I still think that vaccinations are a major "trigger" for many and am eagerly waiting for your reply as to where I can read the info first hand.
Thanks again!
In Reply to: 2 kinds of autism posted by KMD on January 10, 2000 at 12:48:13:
Dr. Stoll,
Here is the message board, it is a really good one and very active. Instead of my speaking for you, perhaps you could go there and post what you know for the benefit of all. Thanks again!
http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb50148&TL=947469001
In Reply to: Autism cause - your previous post posted by KMD on January 09, 2000 at 20:46:31:
Hi, KMD.
Call (800) 843-9660 and ask them if they will send you the autism information from the past year. This is not the business they are in so be sure to ask them how much it will cost.
In the meantime, you might contact directly a recent researcher after first reading his publication in the Lancet: Wakefield AJ, Murch SH, Anthony A, et al. Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive development disorder in children. Lancet. 1998;351:637-641.
Of course these are ALL related to LGS!
Let us all know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Autism cause - your previous post posted by KMD on January 09, 2000 at 20:46:31:
I don't know much about the subject of autism but my sister went to a conference on autism a few month's ago and I believe it was conducted by the guy that runs great smokies lab. My sister told me something about that people with autism all had the same compound in their urine. I know this isn't much information at all but maybe Great Smokies Lab could elaborate.
In Reply to: Re: Autism cause - your previous post posted by Maggie on January 10, 2000 at 01:52:11:
Maggie,
Thanks for your note. You cannot look at the research without knowing atleast that immunization is ONE of the causes in the majority of Autistic kids. This data is based on actual biopsy evidence from normal and autistic kids. How much more accurate can this get?
I don't think that anyone should just accept that the incidence of Autism has increased by 900% in the past 100 years witout wanting to look for more causes than just genes. Neither of us would accept that the human species has evolved so much in that period of time. Something else is going on.
That does not mean that we know ALL of the causes. Indeed, the majority of Autistic kids have a multiplicity of causes that, combined, finally push the child over the edge of sustainable and functional brain chemistry. The VAST majhority of immunized children do not get Autism!!!
Genes definitely have an effect and just as definitely genes are not the only factor. Since we cannot do anything about our genes (yet) the only things we CAN do something about are NON-genetic. Surely it is worth investigating those things we CAN do something about.
This research proves that LGS is a major contributing factor to Autism and explains why, when this is removed from the equation, nearly all Autistic kids improve significantly.
It also explains why secretin (an intestinal lining hormone) helps so many Autistic Kids and why the benefit does not last very long.
What do you think now?
Walt
In Reply to: 2 kinds of autism posted by KMD on January 10, 2000 at 12:48:13:
Hi, KMD.
I won't argue with the 80 vs 40 years thing. I confess that I did not recall the exact number of years and decided to say what would be less emphatic rather than more. I wonder if the "reply lady" was reassured that this amazing increase happened in 40 years rather than 80 (grin)?
Autism is like Multiple Sclerosis in that there are now considered to be MANY kinds of "MS Like" conditions.
The difference between nearly all of the brain chemistry abberations of children is mainly that of genetic susceptibility and ALL of them are susceptible to the environmental things that can be changed. In other words, the actual diagnosis is due to the genetics of the individual but the aggravating factors are mainly the same in all of them.
For example: any child with these kind of problems will significantly improve by dealing with their LGS and (if they have it) their C-RS as well. That does not mean that these conditions are all caused by LGS and/or C-RS but that those conditions aggravate all of them.
Is this making sense to you?
By the way, even though Autism was not named as such until 40 years ago (since you told me) we can go back thousands of years and make pretty accurate diagnoses of people who lived back then just from their historical records and no part of their bodies to examine. I am sure that a pretty good estimation of the incidence of Autism can be made from historical family records of the past 200 years.
Your paragraph that starts with "Dr Stoll" is EXACTLY what MY understanding is so far.
Walt
In Reply to: #Autism Channel Message Board posted by KMD on January 10, 2000 at 13:02:00:
Thanks, KMD.
I am overwhelmed with trying to deal with 100 messages a day and just do not have the energy or time to do more. Perhaps if you mention the address of this website on that 'site? That way, I only have to type anything once and it is available to many.
Namaste`
Walt
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