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OK, I'm totally jazzed about this GF/CF diet for my son, since I've been doing the PWF diet myself for a few months. OK, I look at the recommended foods and recipes - and there's tapioca flour, potato starch, honey, molasses, brown sugar, - wait a minute! Holy paradigm shift, Batman! Do I put him on this GF/CF thing with the added layer of this bb's thinking, or do I do the GF/CF thing and restrict sugar intake as much as possible, and pursue the possible yeast overgrowth issue at a later date? (He had thrush at three months, four or five rounds of Amoxicillin this winrter for ear infections). And of course almost every vitamin/mineral supplement out there for kids (mine is three) has some kind of flavoring, sucrose, fruit flavor something in it. What do I do there? Help!
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - GF/CF diet for autism and all that sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by dfs on June 12, 2001 at 13:16:36:
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In Reply to: What is GF/CF? nmi posted by labrat on June 12, 2001 at 13:18:02:
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In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - GF/CF diet for autism and all that sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by dfs on June 12, 2001 at 13:16:36:
HI, dfs.
Of all the cutting edge, world research I have been following for the past couple of years I have heard no one recommend this kind of diet. If you are going to try it, I would set a specific time limit and keep a strict diary to see what results you got in that time (I suggest no more than a couple of months.)--both bad or good.
Let us know what you think.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll - GF/CF diet for autism and all that sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Walt Stoll on June 14, 2001 at 10:21:24:
Walt,
This is the classic intervention for autism of eliminating casein and gluten completely from the diet. I could have sworn you have recommended the same yourself. There's tons of research supporting it as well as anecdotal success.
GF/CF means gluten-free, casein-free
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll - GF/CF diet for autism and all that sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Walt Stoll on June 14, 2001 at 10:21:24:
Gluten free/casein free diet; I'd like to do the perfect whole foods diet in conjunction with it, since most of the foods suggested contain sugars, refined carbs, etc. But then I am severely limited in my options for him. Do you recommend going ahead with gluten free, casein free, bad carb free anyway, or going gluten/casein free for awhile and then slowly take out the carbs later and address the yeast overgrowth issue if it shows up on urine tests we'll be doing with Great Plains Lab or some such?
In Reply to: Walt?! Never heard of this diet?? posted by kmd on June 14, 2001 at 11:46:44:
Hi, kmd.
You are right. I had forgotten it since the research, for the past 2 years, had gradually shown that these factors are at best secondary to other factors and likely to produce only temporary benefits. I tend to focus on the deepest mechanisms since they will change all of the more superficial ones.
Sorry!
Walt
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - please address this again - GF/CF diet posted by dfs on June 14, 2001 at 15:58:41:
Hi, dfs.
This is so highly individual and complex that you really need a physician, on site, who is advanced enough to care to be on the cutting edge. It may be necessary to change the diet every week or so depending on what condition you are trying to deal with.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Walt?! Never heard of this diet?? (Archive in Autism.) posted by Walt Stoll on June 16, 2001 at 08:30:16:
By the "deepest mechanisms", I'm sure you mean LGS for one. But what else?
In Reply to: Re: Walt?! Never heard of this diet?? (Archive in Autism.) posted by kmd on June 16, 2001 at 15:49:18:
Hi, kmd.
By "deepest mechanisms" I am referring to the newly discovered mechanisnms that start with LGS but are affecting brain chemistry by previously unsuspected pathways.
The past 18 months references from FMU cover those mechanisms which I am only now beginning to think about.
Hope this helps.
Walt
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