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Hi, my 11 yr old daughter still bed wets, and in fact has never been dry at nite, over the yrs has had all sorts of tests and alarms and used desmopressin etc etc etc all to no avail. Dietry habits include no veg, very little meat apart from the odd burger, eats mainly boiled white rice, potatoes or pasta, lots of yogurts and bread, baked beans, very little fruit ( yes I know, not very healthy but no amount of cajoling will make her eat the right stuff) I read in ur archive about cutting out dairy and wheat, but based on her diet, what else can she eat if i cut those out....any ideas please, she can wet up tp 3 times a nite!
In Reply to: 11 year old bedwetter ( getting worse instead of better) posted by Bee on September 22, 2001 at 21:43:22:
Hi, Bee.
The fact that it is "getting worse" proves to me that this is now a psychological problem and not necessarily, primarily, a physical one.
First of all, you need to divorce yourself from this problem. She is old enough to take care of the mess all by herself and she deserves the right to do so. This is NOT a punishment but a necessity. Make sure that fresh linins are conveniently available and that she can run the washer and dryer and knows how to fold the linens (including towels) and where to put them back.
I am sure you can figure out how to totally divorce yourself from this. If you cannot, you are a part of the problem since it is your attention that subconsciously she is seeking.
You should not know when this problem has resolved itself--which MEANS that you must not know when it happens. You must not remind her of not drinking anything within hours of bedtime, etc.
Unfortunately, at this age you cannot any longer do an adequate trial of food eliminattions, dairy, wheat, soy, egg, etc., in that order) since that would require her cooperation and THAT would put you right back into the "hunt" that you so desperately have to divorce yourself from.
Let us know how you do. This is going to be hard for you but, if you stick to your guns, you should start seeing some progress in a couple of months. If YOU cannot do it you will have to take a long and hard look at the relationship you have developed with your daughter over this problem. I know that, at this age, SHE can do it. If she refuses, I would just let her bed stink and be wet until she decides that is is less bother to change the linens and wash, dry and put them away. than to sleep on the floor. STAY OUT OF HER ROOM.
You will have to approach this so she KNOWS that this change in policy is because she is now old enough to handle it totally by herself and that it is not a punishment.
Good luck.
Walt
In Reply to: 11 year old bedwetter ( getting worse instead of better) posted by Bee on September 22, 2001 at 21:43:22:
My son is nearly 12 and is in the same predicament - it is not that he has 'regressed' - he has never been dry. Like Bee we have tried desmos spray and other drugs, alarms, etc.
In Reply to: 11 year old bedwetter ( getting worse instead of better) posted by Bee on September 22, 2001 at 21:43:22:
I don't know what the desmos spray is. But have you tried the anti diaretic hormone in pill form? My daughter had a strange case of bedwetting. She would go for several months at a time being totally dry, then suddenly start wetting again for months on end. For her it seemed to be a seasonal disorder and worse in the winter. Her urologist had never heard of this and I got the impression he didn't totally believe it. But he prescribed the pills and she was dry when she took them (though there was a period of time when she had to take two per night, then later we were able to cut back to one). When we ran out of pills last November we decided to try it again without them, and she's been dry since then. I hope it's permanent. I don't understand why she went on and off like this, but I have to say I recommend these pills - why don't you give them a try if you haven't already? BTW, we never tried dietary changes.
In Reply to: 11 year old bedwetter ( getting worse instead of better) posted by Bee on September 22, 2001 at 21:43:22:
We have the same problem. He went years without wetting and now at ten he is wetting the bed. Dr. prescribed DDAVP. The hormone that diabetics take for frequent urination. It works great. Dose is one to three pills, whatever works for them. Don't get angry. Teach your child to either change bed or have a back up bed made on the floor. Don't forget to protect your carpet. They must not disturb anyone during the night and must wash their bedding the next day themselves. Don't make it an emotional issue. It is just part of learning to take care of themselves. Give your child plenty of attention that has nothing to do with the bed. We tried the alarm - it worked a few years ago but not now. He is allergic to wheat and dairy and does not eat these foods. WARNING: If your child is allergic to wheat and continues to eat it she will damage her intestines and bring on serious illness. This is worth checking out with a blood test.This is a fight worth taking on and is more serious than bedwetting. There are good wheat-free cookbooks written by Bette Hagman. We are trying acupuncture
In Reply to: 11 year old bedwetter ( getting worse instead of better) posted by Bee on September 22, 2001 at 21:43:22:
We are also taking him to a pedi-endocrinologist next month. And I am considering hypnosis if nothing else works.I rather he not take hormones if something else works.
I'll keep you posted.
In Reply to: Re: 11 year old bedwetter ( getting worse instead of better) posted by Chris on September 24, 2001 at 09:09:46:
Hi, Chris.
If you have tried all the things Bee has tried the "retrogression" is insignificant. Your solution will be the same.
If you have not tried total elimnination of dairy and wheat, You should at least try that first.
Walt
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