I live in the Orange county area of Southern California. I left two messages with the local biofeedback area starting two weeks ago and I still have not heard from anyone. I also would like to do cranialsacral work. Anyone out there know of a good place to go in my area? Thanks alot.
In Reply to: Biofeedback and cranialsacral referral please posted by B 12 Terri on May 11, 1998 at 22:45:28:
Dear Terri,
Possibly a good chiropracter in your area can either recommend a craniosacral therapy person, or may even have one working in their office.
Be well! Kyra
In Reply to: Biofeedback and cranialsacral referral please posted by B 12 Terri on May 11, 1998 at 22:45:28:
Hi, Terri,
BAD biofeedback people! They also have a website that might help: http://www.biofeedback.net/aapb.org
I know of no better way to find a cranial person than what Kyra suggested and the national # I gave before.
You might have altavista or one of those searchengines look for Cranial Osteopathy?
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
Dear Nancy and Walt,
Nancy...THANK you for your posting. I think I also have some sort of parasite. I had a VERY long lasting 'stomach flu' that was like nothing I ever experienced. It lasted for several months and I was so incredibly weak from all the weight loss. I developed this thick white coating on my tongue that has never completely gone away. I lost 65 pounds from the illness. Yes, I was around 100 pounds overweight. You can tell I was not on a very good diet and exercise program for a long time. ;) I have lost a total of 95 pounds. At least I am thin now, but I am VERY weakened. This illness really changed my attitudes about diet. I don't think I could ever go back to those bad habits. I don't even like sweets anymore. I don't like the taste of chocolate at all. Fats are yucky to me. But the essential oil supplements I take don't bother me at all. (Flax seed oil)
I cleaned up my diet and that helped my stomach and tongue heal and gave me more strength but symptoms have not fully cleared.
After reading about Leaky Gut, I really think I have this and a parasite. I may have some early stage chronic fatigue and/or fibromylagia too. I think I have the long standing symptoms of leaky gut that Dr Stoll described.
After I added the flora to my daily intake plus the supplements that Dr. Stoll recommends in his book I noticed an improvement with all my symptoms. I also quit milk. Dr. Stoll wrote about how that can aggravate LGS because of the peptides..etc.. He explains it so well.
So, the diet is better and this has helped me considerably after a few weeks. I was surprised at how quickly those changes helped me.
Now on to the daily meditation like you are discussing. Dr. Stoll recommended in the page on this website under skilled relaxation that we try to get our alpha waves in the 4 cycles per second range and our theta waves in the 12 cps range for the maxium removal of stored stress removing it 24 times faster than sleep.. THANKS AGAIN TO DR. STOLL! Whew! You saved me some money.
I opened up the Yellow Pages and called every biofeedback person in my area and ASKED them if they have a biofeedback machine that will test the alpha/theta brain waves. (I hope I asked it correctly) Many do NOT even have one these machines. So I am so happy that I knew this information FIRST and did not waste my money with a person who does not have the right equipment.
Second, I asked if I could come in for ONE session and see if I am meditating in the 4/12 cps range. Well, one of the biofeedback persons did not even KNOW that the 4/12 cycle was the best brain wave pattern for relieving stress. His reply was, "Really? Where did you hear that?" I ALMOST made an appointment with them. Thanks Dr. Stoll. ALSO, they told me I MUST have 15-20 sessions and that is how long it takes to learn...blah, blah and that I would only DISCUSS what symptoms I have with the first session blah, blah... I heard the ring of the cash register and said good-bye.
Well, I finally talked to a biofeedback person with a PhD. who sounds very knowledgeable about biofeedback. He is aware of the benefits of the 4/12 cps and said that he would help me see if I was meditating in that range. He also specializes in Pain therapy which I might benefit from. The TMJ pain has been there for 15 years and I think this is part of the 'stress' that is causing many other health problems. (Got to try that Rolfing too) He was willing for me to come in for one session. I guess I am lucky. I will write on the BB my experiences.
So, I agree with Walt. If I could not find someone willing to do this for me, I could buy a machine and do it myself, then sell it and save money.
What would be NICE is to have a center with many of these machines and offer FREE sessions with it for anyone dropping in. Maybe a small lecture on meditation or classes. If I had the money and know-how it would be a wonderful Non-Profit Organization.
I read in the Mind As Healer, Mind As Slayer tha
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback posted by Pamela J on May 16, 1998 at 16:05:06:
Pamela
Thanks so much for your post. I never thought to call a pain management clinic, rather than a psyholgist for the biofeedback. I think I'll try them on Mon. It might even be covered on insurance.. Have you found out if you were on the right track yet?
Nancy
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback posted by Nancy on May 17, 1998 at 15:58:55:
Dear Nancy,
There person I will see next week is a Psychologist. Most biofeedback people seem to be in that field. I looked up BIOFEEDBACK in the Yellow pages instead of looking through all the pscychologist and that is how I found several places to call.
I really hope you find someone who will work with you without charging so much money. Since I have been in pain for so long, pain therapy biofeedback along with the alpha/theta wave work for meditation might be good for me. I will look into it.
Dr Stoll recommends the Mega Brain book by Michael Hutchinson. I am going to buy that. It is recommended by MANY sources too. Dr Stoll recommends many excellent books written by the pioneers in the field from what I have found out. Many books following them got their inspiration from them.
The Mind As Healer, Mind As Slayer has an EXCELLENT description of biofeedback in it. Have your read it yet? I love that book.
When I get my results I will post it on the BB.
PLEASE post what happens with you too, okay?
pamela
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback posted by Pamela J on May 16, 1998 at 16:05:06:
Dear Pamela,
Thanks for your wonderful note. I am going to ask Bill if he would be sure to archive it in such a way that others could learn from it. I am shocked that there would be so many people out there using biofeedback to prey on the public like the MDs have done for so many years.
ALL biofeedback practitioneers should have the same expertise as the one you finally found. I guess I was spoiled by having one of the good ones in my office so we never had to send people out to be preyed upon. I am gratified to hear that at least some of the information I put out is being put to good use.
Thank God you actually did find one that approaches the profession like a professional. If he wouldn't mind, I would like to post his name and town so others wouldn't have such a time as you had.
Namaste` Walt
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback posted by Walt Stoll on May 18, 1998 at 12:29:51:
Dear Dr Stoll,
Thanks for the letter. I am glad I was able to contribute to this site that has done so much for me. Take whatever I share for that is why I post here. I hope that it helps others and the feedback I get from others helps me too. I learn from nearly EVERY post on here.
I will see the biofeedback doctor next week and see how it goes. Another doctor I saw knows him and said he has been doing biofeedback for years. He may soon retire or is only working part time. I can ask him about any contribution he may have to offer.
I will post to the BB my experiences with him. I am looking forward to it.
Thanks again, Walt. It is a slow walk back to health but at least I am getting better. I see now that my health had been declining for a LONG time.
peace and love,
pamela
The cranial sacral therapist I saw writes articles and she said would like to talk about sharing her knowledge with others too about cranial and somatic work. She is really gentle and knowledgeable soul. I have found a whole new community of people that have been wonderful. It has been uplifting to experience healing in a new way that is respectful to the body, mind and soul.
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback posted by Pamela J. on May 18, 1998 at 01:06:46:
Pamela
Thanks,again. Yes, I read MIND a couple or three mos. ago. Absolutely loved it! Just don't remember more than about 5 % of what I read, I guess, plus I read so much. Sure wish I could retain more.
Nancy
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback - Answer to Dr Stoll posted by Pamela J. on May 18, 1998 at 18:51:19:
Dear Pamela,
Do you think you could get the cranial person interested in joining the BB like Doc Dave has? We could REALLY use input like that!
In the end, I am hoping that MANY alternative specialists will grace us with their particular expertise so we can work as a team.
I hope your "retiring" biofeedback guy can put you onto someone younger who has his same expertise and philosophy. Wouldn't it be wonderful if HE would be interested in sharing what he knows on the internet?
Namaste` Walt
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback - Answer to Dr Stoll posted by Walt Stoll on May 20, 1998 at 12:25:08:
Dear Dr Stoll,
I will ask the Biofeedback doctor and the Cranial Sacral Therapist. So far, I am impressed with both.
Yes! it would be good to have experts in different fields on the BB. It would be nice to have a dietition too, like Beth Loiselle. An herbalogist would be great too.
Thanks for all your help, Dr. Stoll. I am finally FINDING healing. Somehow, your book Saving Yourself from the Disease Care Crises , the Mind As Healer, Mind As Slayer book, and the learning I have done on this website enabled me to find healing. I did not know where to turn but the EDUCATION and INFORMATION gave me a foundation upon which to determine who could help and who could not. I SEE why you want people to EDUCATE themselves.
Thanks,
pamela
Hi Walt,
I have just spent nearly $3000.00 on Interactive Light Therapy (ILT) in the last six months. (ILT is a type of neurobiofeedback) I have been seeing my practitioner about 2-3 times a week. When I first started the training my brainwaves were all over the place. Now, they have normalized to the point where I do not need much stimulation with the lights. In other words, my brain patterns are nearly normalized. I am VERY proud that I have done this. But the downside...
I still have not been able to efface/help some of my symptoms. I suffer from anxiety/stress and attentions problems. I am thinking of trying EMG training. What is EMG training like? Is it hard?
Thanks in advance for any reply,
Michael McG.
In Reply to: Re: LGS and Biofeedback - Answer to Dr Stoll posted by Pamela J. on May 20, 1998 at 12:51:31:
Thanks, Pamela.
It is not popular but it IS the only way I have found to resolve these chronic conditions. The AMA has just seized upon the human foible of not wanting to take responsibility for one's own health & built a powerful self-serving monopoly around it. There will always be those who will want to go to the doc & have her/him do their thinking for them. The AMA is too greedy to be satisfied with those (although I predict they would be in the majority)--they insist on having them ALL.
Anyone with a FAX could request the most recent documentation of that fact that NO ONE wants to believe. See my note yesterday about the "monopoly".
Just one person doing what you are doing makes it all worth while for me.
Thanks! Walt
In Reply to: EMG biofeedback posted by Mick McG. on May 20, 1998 at 19:31:44:
Dear Mick,
Your experience is EXACTLY why I do not recomend people use biofeedback to learn skilled relaxation. Nearly everyone can learn this skill in a few weeks without biofeedback. The only time I recommend biofeedback (one session) is to check the technique that seems to be working to be sure that the alpha/theta brain rhythm is being produced.
Less than 1% of people actually need to be trained with biofeedback. The other 99% can do it for about $20 not counting the one session to check.
EMG is just another biofeedback and a particularly inefficient one at that. At least consider an EMG.
I would recommend you start over & do it like it works for nearly everyone. Go to the link; Skilled Relaxation.
After you have read the workbook, if you have more questions, write again.
Walt
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The plot thickens! It's interesting that my wife recently experienced similar sensations. They seem to have resolved on their own (the tingling sensation that is). To some extent we believe they can be attributed to anxiety. You may want to look into some skilled relaxation. I'm certainly no expert here, but tingling sounds to me like it could have something to do with circulation. Skilled relaxation can significantly improve your circulation remarkably fast.
While hooked up to a biofeedback aparatus I was able to in my first session learn how to improve the circulation to my hands. I know this because the temperature in my fingers increased by about a degree. I was just doing some breathing exercises.
Check Dr. Stoll's site for more info. on skilled relaxation. I also have some resources at my site (see link below).
Peter
In Reply to: Re: More symptoms (along with redness of the face) posted by Peter Wray on May 23, 1998 at 08:25:26:
Adam,
Ishould clarify that I'm not suggesting that you need persue biofeedback. I agree with Dr. Stoll that biofeedback is not really necessary other than to just check your progress. I needed to reassure myself that I was accomplishing something, but it was a very expensive way to do this.
Check Dr. Stoll's response below about EMG and biofeedback. He included a link to information on skilled relaxation.
Peter
Dear Adam,
Just more symptoms associated with my previous response.
"Mins as Healer, Mind as Slayer" (one of the resources I suggested to you) was written about you.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: More symptoms (along with redness of the face) posted by Walt Stoll on May 25, 1998 at 08:28:15:
Walt,
Sorry for the delay in responding, for my computer was done. And my beloved Internet was inaccessible. Anyway...
This statement hit me like a rock. "…is to discharge the garbage faster than it is being accumulated." It is such truism. Seriously. I believe that is why I did not get the maximum benefits from biofeedback.
I want to get your book; however, I do not have a credit card. Is there a mailing address that I can send the money to? I did see anything listed on your site for one.
Are there much in the book the deals with the topic dealing with anxiety and relaxation?
Thanks again,
Michael J. McGartland
In Reply to: Your book. posted by Michael on May 27, 1998 at 18:41:39:
Michael,
Try going to the Home Page. There you will find an 800 number and an address for Dr. Stoll.
Jim