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Bob McF. re: alkaline vs. acid

Posted by
Peggy on May 31, 1999 at 19:33:48:

Robert,

For the last 2-3 years I've been getting a massive attack of herpes (cold sores) at the exact same time of year: March-April. Several clusters all around my lips. Someone told me that it's because I've become too alkaline. Might that be true, or could it be from becoming too alkaline OR acid? Or, nothing to do with it at all?

If so, I'm wondering about seasonal oscillating, since I'm bombarded with other symptoms at this same time. Any comments?

Thank,
Peggy



Re: Bob McF. re: alkaline vs. acid

Posted by
Robert McFerran on May 31, 1999 at 20:58:42:

In Reply to: Bob McF. re: alkaline vs. acid posted by Peggy on May 31, 1999 at 19:33:48:

Peggy,

The acid/alkaline that your friend is talking about has nothing to do with Dr. Watson/Wiley's research. It is a Naturopathic concept that I have found is exceedingly illogical in how it is applied.

The seasonal variations that you find are more probably related to other 'environmental' factors. Specifically the higher mold, pollen, and depending where you live, pollution levels. Like anything else these things apply stress to your physiology.

If you had a great deal of immunological reserves this extra stress would be easily absorbed and you wouldn't see any symptoms. HOWEVER if you don't have much in the way of immunological reserves this additional stressor might be enough to lower immunity to the point where the virus causing your cold sores has the opportunity to flourish.

The only answer to all of this is to embark on a wellness program to increase your immunological reserves. A side effect will be that your cold sores will be a thing of the past.

Bob



Sores in mouth do not have to be herpees!

Posted by Mai on May 31, 1999 at 21:19:47:

In Reply to: Bob McF. re: alkaline vs. acid posted by Peggy on May 31, 1999 at 19:33:48:

Do you have any positive objective tests that mouth sores are herpees?

To many idiots practicing medicine label mouth sorwityh herpees. It could be that you do. But iyt also could be related to increased acidity, and change in diet may cause release of mercury from dental amalgam causing sores in the mouth always misdiagnsed for herpees by uneducated physicians!

Mercury sulfide:

The condition is characterized by metallic taste, nausea, abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, & sometimes albuminuria. After few days, salivary glands swell, stomatitis & gingivitis develop, & a dark line of mercury sulfide forms on inflamed gums. Teeth may loosen, & ulcers may form on lips & cheeks. In milder cases, recovery occurs within 10-14 days, but in others, poisoning of chronic type may ensue. Some of acute cases have resulted from exposure concentration of 1.2 to 8.5 ml Hg~cu m. [PATTY. INDUS HYG & TOX 3RD ED VOLZA,2B,2C 1981-82]

So seasonal change in diet may cause in deed with increased environmental temperature accelerated release of mercury reacting with sulfides (food preservative).

Unless you have positive test for the virus it can not be said with scientific evidence that it is a virus.



Re: Sores in mouth do not have to be herpees!

Posted by Peggy on June 01, 1999 at 01:39:19:

In Reply to: Sores in mouth do not have to be herpees! posted by Mai on May 31, 1999 at 21:19:47:

They are not IN my mouth, they are ON my lips and spill over onto the the skin around my mouth. I never get sores in my mouth. Yes indeed they are herpes/cold sores brought on by wind/sun burn, illness, etc. I have gotten these since I was a young child, before my mouth was ever full of mercury. I don't experience the other symptoms you listed for mercury sulfide.

Actually, I've never even heard of having cold sores inside the mouth. I can't imagine that's even possible. Considering I've had contact between my tongue, cold sores, and inside of my mouth for 25ish years and it's never spread to the inside of my mouth, well.... Who knows.

Peggy



On second thought..

Posted by Peggy on June 01, 1999 at 02:14:33:

In Reply to: Re: Sores in mouth do not have to be herpees! posted by Peggy on June 01, 1999 at 01:39:19:

Just read some of the amalgam stuff in above posts and it got me thinking. I just may have a culture done next time they pop up. What a trip that would be if they were NOT herpes for the past 25 years.

Peggy



Re: On second thought..

Posted by
jen on June 01, 1999 at 08:33:19:

In Reply to: On second thought.. posted by Peggy on June 01, 1999 at 02:14:33:

Don't forget to also rule out impitigo ( spelling?) It could occur in addition to the skin lesions from sensitivity to fillings and also in addition to herpes, or by itself.
Jen



Re: Sores in mouth do not have to be herpes! (Archive under herpes)

Posted by Walt Stoll on June 02, 1999 at 13:17:09:

In Reply to: Re: Sores in mouth do not have to be herpees! posted by Peggy on June 01, 1999 at 01:39:19:

Hi, Peggy.

They probably ARE herpes simplex type 1. They CAN get secondarily infected and THAT would then be termed impetigo.

You will go through hell trying to get your doc to "culture" this for herpesvirus.

Mercury CAN lower local (and general) immunity enough to be the "straw that broke the camel's back" and thus precipitate this recurrent problem. HOWEVER, so can many other things and you do not have to get rid of more than one or two to resolve your problem.

I can guarantee you that you do not need to continue to have these recurrent problems!

First, recurrent herpes has been discussed on this BB several times within the past few weeks. Look them up to save me typing. Look for lysine vs arginine and highdoses of esterified vitamin C as indicated.

Second, ANY wellness program wil drastically reduce the frequency of this recurrence all by itself. In many people it will resolve the condition so long as the person persists in their wellness program.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again. When you no longer get them, please share your experiences with the BB participants. There are millions of people out there suffering needlessly just as you have been for 25 years. Help them realize that they are not being told their options by their conventional docs. Too much money is being made treating the symptoms for the doc to take the time to teach this stuff & resolve the problem

Walt



Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere...

Posted by
Peggy on June 02, 1999 at 13:48:25:

In Reply to: Re: Sores in mouth do not have to be herpes! (Archive under herpes) posted by Walt Stoll on June 02, 1999 at 13:17:09:

Walt,

I have been practicing what we discuss here for 10 months. Been meditating 2x day. Yet, when April rolled around, symptoms started appearing again. Herpes is just one of them; my mouth has been a mess. I must admit, for a couple months prior to my symptoms, I was back on the sugar. Not sure how significant that is. There seems to be a trend of my problems firing up this time of year.

At any rate, I've screwed up somewhere along the way. I'll drive myself crazy by trying to find the exact thing I did that is causing problems. I guess I should have my meditation checked, so, can you advise me on how to look for biofeedback?

Thanks,
Peggy





Re: Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere...

Posted by
Helen David on June 02, 1999 at 16:23:07:

In Reply to: Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere... posted by Peggy on June 02, 1999 at 13:48:25:

Peggy,

In my opinion, starting back on the sugar is VERY significant. Sugar reduces the immune system functioning by a HUGE percentage. If you want something to push you very close to the edge of the cliff, eat sugar. Also, what about the thought pattern, "I always get herpes this time of year?" Seems as though these things could push you over the edge.

One reason I stay away from sugar(most of the time) is I want to stay as far away from the edge as possible. and that is something I have more control over. A year after I stopped eating sugar and other refined foods and concentrated on a whole foods diet, I no longer had seizures, even without medication. That was 16 years ago. I started having seizures at age 22 and continued on medication, with occasional seizures for about 17 years.

It is much easier to stay away from sugar now that I have done the e-diet and removed foods I am sensitive to. Removing cravings makes it easier to not eat sugar than using willpower. And I have a pretty good incentive-which didn't always work.

Helen




Re: Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere...

Posted by Walt Stoll on June 03, 1999 at 13:21:58:

In Reply to: Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere... posted by Peggy on June 02, 1999 at 13:48:25:

Hi, Peggy.

The first thing you did wrong was not check your meditative technique in the beginning. Just think how much time you may have wasted taking "naps". Go to the biofeedback archives to see the procedure & resources for checking this out. Let me know what you learn since you might just accidentally have found a procedure that works for you and THIS not "be" the problem.

Second, if you want to see how much the "sugar" had reduced your immunity, go to the home page for this 'site and read about Sugar & Immunity. These studies were first done more than 40 years ago & replicated many times since. Why does not everyone know about it??? Why do hospitals still routinely hang IVs with dextrose in them????

Finally, the lysine/arginine/vitamin C recommendations still go till "the things you have done wrong" get back up to speed.

Walt



Re: Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere... (Testamonials Help.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on June 03, 1999 at 13:28:23:

In Reply to: Walt, I've gone wrong somewhere... posted by Peggy on June 02, 1999 at 13:48:25:

Peggy,

Listen to Helen.

Also, you might go to the archives about testimonials of people who have fallen off the wagon of wellness & gotten back on. It is inspirational to know that we are not the only "undisciplined" people out there.

If you have trouble finding these stories, drop a note to my son Bill (administrator of this 'site) and put his name in the title to draw his attention. If you tell him what you are looking for, he knows where he put them. THEN, when I see his response to you, I will know where he put them too.

Namaste` Walt



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