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Elimination Diet when already healthy?

Posted by Bill on December 13, 1998 at 08:17:40:

Hi Bob,

I was thinking about doing the elimination diet just to see if anything happened. I am 40 yrs old and if I have any chronic conditions causing discomfort I don't notice them. But maybe finding the right diet for me would help prevent future problems, and might improve my quality of health in ways I never would have dreamed.

Two reasons I hesitate. First, it's a lot of trouble; might not ever start without strong encouragement. Second, between ages of 20-25, Dad was getting all excited about the dramatic effect of refined carbos - but those sugar-strength-sapping tests never seemed to work on me - so maybe it would be a lot of work for nothing.

I do notice being in strong need of a nap 1-2 hrs after a big meal, but maybe that's true for just about everyone? I eat wheat and dairy with nearly every meal, and haven't eaten meat (except for beef broth every 6-12 months) for about ten years.


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Re: Elimination Diet when already healthy?

Posted by Robert McFerran on December 13, 1998 at 14:07:54:

In Reply to: Elimination Diet when already healthy? posted by Bill Stoll on December 13, 1998 at 08:17:40:


The only way that you would really know is if you tested your mind/body -- and the only way I know of doing that is to run the elimination diet. Personally I think you would find it an interesting experience even if you felt no significant withdrawl and no significant clearing.

You do bring up an interesting point with all this though.

When your dad was in Louisville he was invited by Mimi Hermann to give a talk at the local medical school. Ms. Hermann was doing specific research in conjunction with the University on the effects of sleep. Several of her test subjects had a myriad of health problems including being over or under-weight, depression, anxiety, arthritis, allergies and of course, problems getting a good nights sleep.

Ms. Hermann preferred at the time to believe that the primary root of her test subject's problem was psychological. Your father eloquently suggested that there was a lot of physiological stuff going on that in turn created or added to the experienced psychological symptoms.

This information was greeted by Ms. Hermann and company with significant resistance. I mean it sounds absurd to think that something going on in your gut is effecting your head?!

The meeting and the debate ended when basically we ran out of time that evening.

Subsequently I contacted Ms. Hermann and suggested that I could give her test subjects a protocol (the elimination diet) to prove that they were fighting something that they were unaware of. I talked to her group on a couple of successive weeks and about 10 of them decided to take the 'challenge'. Mimi decided to try it too.

The results were very interesting. ALL 10 of her test subjects felt significant withdrawl (one quit the test then and there because it was so severe). The other 9 went on and all experienced 'clearing' and a substancial lessening of their symptoms. Mimi experienced no real withdrawl or clearing although she felt good during the diet period throughout. She of course was the only one in the group with vibrant health beforehand.

We looked at the metabolic identities of her 10 test subjects and I found ALL OF THEM were eating diets mismatched to inherited metabolism (you can see why I believe that eating a diet mismatched to inherited metabolic type is a precursor to leaky gut syndrome). The only person who had happened on a diet that was well matched to her inherited metabolic type was Ms. Hermann.

Of course I know that she was just LUCKY to be an Agriculturist and at the same time eating the appropriate low fat, low purine, high complex carbohydrate diet.

I'm not suggesting that you personally don't have vibrant health because you know what that means. I didn't. I thought that I had good health simply because I appeared to be healthier that other folks (a decidedly poor gauge). I had inhaled allergies all my life but of course lots of folks have even more severe allergies. I had regular headaches, but of course doesn't everyone have headaches? I had joint aches and pains but as my Orthopedic doc put it "You're getting older, it's the price you pay for having an active sports life" (I was 30 at the time). Sometimes I wouldn't have a bowel movement in a day but heck I knew others that didn't have them for SEVERAL days.

Hey, there were over the counter remedies for ALL my symptoms. Didn't this prove that nothing serious was going on with me individually?

I was healthy -- at least so I thought. Thanks to the work done by you and your father here on this web site I know a lot better now.

Thanks Bill.


Re: Elimination Diet when already healthy?

Posted by Dad on December 14, 1998 at 09:05:51:

In Reply to: Elimination Diet when already healthy? posted by Bill Stoll on December 13, 1998 at 08:17:40:

Hi, Bill!

What IS healthy?

Remember that Maslow, at the turn of the century, looked for 10 years and never found a "healthy" person. NOW, they are a lot more rare than they were then.

The chances are that there are basic things like this that would make you a "superman", in comparison to how you feel & function right now. The idea is to never stop seeking.

Namaste` Dad

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