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H/G + SR = ???

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 15, 1998 at 15:14:46:

In one of the Robert Mcfarland archives, Walt said something to the effect that the metabolic type that a person is will likely change after a (long) while doing SR. That the diet that works well for them when they are over-stressed will actually make them sick when they have released the stress. Sorry if I got this close but wrong.

I can tell that right now I'm a H/G and definitely over-stressed.

OK, to give me something to look forward to, to expect, and to pay attention to, what metabolic type will an over-stressed Hunter/Gatherer probably become with long-term SR (and eating as a H/G)?

Is the metabolic continuum the following:

Severe H/G


Combination H/G Agriculturist


Severe Agriculturist

If so, which way does SR trend one? Up? or Down? or always toward the center, or Random? or in a Circle?

Hopefully some people here have done SR long enough to determine the new metabolic diet for them after many months of SR. It seems that this metabolic trending could be in agreement with some of the diet books that talk about carbohydrate intolerance and reversing this phenomenon with diet. I.E. trending from H/G toward Agriculturist.

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Re: H/G + SR = ???

Posted by Robert McFerran on December 15, 1998 at 15:55:04:

In Reply to: H/G + SR = ??? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 15, 1998 at 15:14:46:


I'll let Dr. Stoll comment on his comment.

Yes, there is a broad metabolic spectrum. What you note as HG/Agriculturist is something that I refer to as a Mixed Metabolism and is really skewed toward the H-G side of things.

I'm a H-G that has been practicing skilled relaxation regularly for over 3 years. It doesn't in my estimation change what metabolic subset that you occupy. It might make very minor changes to where you perceived you started within that one metabolic subset. Dr. Wiley saw this movement to be a bit less extreme as his patients at the proper diet for at least 4 months. He saw that after this time they became a bit more stable and didn't have as dramatic venous blood plasma pH shifts during the day.

I believe what Dr. Stoll and Dr. Wiley are seeing is the re-gaining of some 'immunological reserves' that make your physiology more resilient to stress of any kind. Wiley was seeing that the removal of an unknown stress (having a diet mismatched to inherited metabolism) had this effect. Dr. Stoll is not surprised a bit to see that skilled relaxation does the same thing.

Of course we want to do both. I perceive eating a whole foods diet, sans major food allergens and matched to inherited metabolism is basically REMOVING THE NEGATIVE of not doing just that. Skilled relaxation on the other hand is truly adding a POSITIVE to increase immunological reserves and buffer your physiology from the effects of stress.


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Glad I Asked!

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 15, 1998 at 16:17:10:

In Reply to: Re: H/G + SR = ??? posted by Robert McFerran on December 15, 1998 at 15:55:04:

Thanks for your informative reply.

I'm glad I asked. Sounds like big changes diet-wise are not heading my way, just gaining a little more food-tolerance, a little more "slop" room in my choices.

It will be interesting to see what Walt may have to add to this.

Re: H/G + SR = ???

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 16, 1998 at 11:30:35:

In Reply to: H/G + SR = ??? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 15, 1998 at 15:14:46:

Dear RocketHealer Jim & Bob,

No one has ever asked me that question before. I do not know if there is any specific way that changes tend to go. All I know enough about is to warn people that changes may occur and that the same things that worked in the beginning may have to be changed to continue progress.

If anyone notices any specific direction changes tend to go, I would be VERY interested in learning about it.

Great question!


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