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Day 4 for the E-Brigade!

Posted by Johnelle on February 28, 1999 at 23:24:49:

I'm posting this Sunday evening ... getting a little excited
about the halfway mark! No more food today, so it might as
well be tomorrow in my book. So far, I've had no obvious
symptoms other than HUNGER! I am not sure I wouldn't have
chalked all this up to another one of my insane pursuits
without the support I've gotten from the rest of the gang.

Question -- Since I know I am allergic to iodine, am I doing
wrong with this cod and trout I'm getting so much of?
Iodine (or kelp) makes me have acne bumps, and I'm getting
some, but that's also part of my problem is chronic acne, it
just seems to be a little worse than usual. Should I maybe
switch to chicken rather than this stinkin' fish (smack



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Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade!

Posted by Denise Wyrick on February 28, 1999 at 23:41:12:

In Reply to: Day 4 for the E-Brigade! posted by Johnelle on February 28, 1999 at 23:24:49:

Johnelle you had me worried, when I saw the subject of your post I thought I had lost a day. I'm telling ya I'm fuzzy headed tonight.

Yes I would love to eat something other than this stinking fish.... I'm not having any other pains other than sympathy pains for myself.

I'll tune in tomorrow...nightie night
Denise


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Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade!

Posted by Robert McFerran on February 28, 1999 at 23:47:59:

In Reply to: Day 4 for the E-Brigade! posted by Johnelle on February 28, 1999 at 23:24:49:

Johnelle,

Iodine is a necesary nutrient -- especially for the Hunter-gatherer metabolism.

I know that you are tired of fish but no chicken for now.

Bob



Today's good news!

Posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 09:44:52:

In Reply to: Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade! posted by Denise Wyrick on February 28, 1999 at 23:41:12:

Guess what, it's Monday morning, and I'M NOT HUNGRY!! It is
almost 9am and I haven't eaten my peach and pear yet, and
that is just remarkable for me. I've already gotten my act
together for the day, done my SR, got a load in the washing
machine, and thinking I may not have to have any chicken
today after all, especially since Robert nixed my suggestion
that substitute chicken for fish. Thanks for all the
support. Phyllis, are you still with us? H


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Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 09:58:01:

In Reply to: Day 4 for the E-Brigade! posted by Johnelle on February 28, 1999 at 23:24:49:

Good morning all!

Everyone feeling better this morning? - if not, you should start to as the day passes and into tomorrow. I'm definately feeling better this morning. Only a slight aching left in my muscles, my joints don't seem to be sore anymore, my headache is ALMOST gone, and my mind seems a little clearer now. Just a little tired still, but not bad.

The lamb last night was wonderful. My body must have needed the extra fat; I felt so much better afterwards (didn't feel hungry the rest of the evening).

A question Robert: I've been planning out my diet ahead of time, for when we start testing foods this Thursday. I planned it all out, and to get the appropriate foods tested (for my metabolic type) will take about another 10 days as you had told me before. But to test milk and grains, that takes me into the first part of April - is that right? Milk for four days, the each grain individually for four days (brown rice also)?

Also, I wondered about the H-G diet post to Johnelle on Feb. 26. It is slightly different from the H-G diet I printed out from the archives (it is dated July 28, 1998). I just wanted to ask about it, because the one in the archives lists all whole grains as Allowed, but the H-G diet posted to Johnelle says to Eliminate all grains. Please explain!?

Also, if you test out okay for some grains (meaning there is POSSIBLY some bread in your future), how do you also test to see if you're sensitive to baking yeast?

Sorry for so many questions! You've been wonderfully helpful and supportive with all of us, and we really appreciate it!!

Thanks!!
Sara


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Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade!

Posted by Phyllis A. on March 01, 1999 at 10:30:44:

In Reply to: Day 4 for the E-Brigade! posted by Johnelle on February 28, 1999 at 23:24:49:

I'm here, but I'm not doing well at all. I'm so out of it I just haven't been up to talking on the board. My grammar/spelling may be terrible. Just can't think to well. I've not had anything to eat. I couldn't stand the thought of eating yesterday morning. Around 1-2 p.m. I made myself eat a little, but ended up throwing-up what little I got down. Since there wasn't much of any food, it was mainly dry-heaves. The thought of cooking/eating that again, I just couldn't take last night. My last "meal" was Friday at lunch. All I brought w/ me to work was pear and carrot sticks.
My aches/hurting have not been as bad as I was anticipating. It is just that I can't stomach this food. I'm at work today, but I won't be contributing much.


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Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:16:37:

In Reply to: Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 09:58:01:

Sara,

You are definately clearing and it will continue for the next several days.

You should test bakers yeast and brewers yeast during the first 10 days of testing since it will provide a relatively fast reaction if you have a sensitivity to it. You can buy the packets of both types of yeast at the grocery.

The H-G diet in the archive is basically the format that Dr. Wiley uses in his book BioBalance. What I sent Johnelle is the raw version of what will be in my book. Wiley basically has avoid or recommended foods where I'm using Core, Supplemental, Avoid and Eliminate as my categories.

The major difference is that I'm going to take a harder stand on milk and grains, especially for Hunter-gatherers. I've struggled with this since some folks 'seemingly' do o.k. with these things in their diet and I DO want to make the diet as liberal as possible so folks can actually do it.

BUT (and it's a big but), the great majority of individuals with arthritis have grain and milk/milk products perpetuating their leaky gut syndrome.

So what should YOU do?

I would exclude them completely for 3-6 months (I wouldn't even test them). In that time you'll have an opportunity to experience how you feel without them. Then I would try adding them in small amounts from time to time. If you start seeing a slide in your health you'll know why. If you don't eliminate them for a time you'll never know why.

Remember, the sandwich (which we Americans feel that we cannot live without) was a VERY recent invention in the human diet.

Bob


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Re: Today's good news!

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:26:38:

In Reply to: Today's good news! posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 09:44:52:

Johnelle,

I'm pleased that you don't 'feel' hunger -- but unless you are an Agriculturist you need to eat or you'll bonk.

That has been a difficult thing for me to learn. I have to keep an eye on the clock or I'll wait too long between meals. When I start to feel myself slump it's almost too late.

Bob


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Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade!

Posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 11:35:21:

In Reply to: Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade! posted by Phyllis A. on March 01, 1999 at 10:30:44:

Hang in there, Phyllis. You are to be commended for not
breaking loose from these bonds we have volunteered to
endure! This must really be working on you. I'm sure
Robert and Walt will have more to say. Glad to hear from
you! Nam



Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better

Posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 11:44:23:

In Reply to: Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:16:37:

Sara, if you don't mind, lay out for me what your plan is
for reintroducing foods. You are WAY ahead of me with your
knowledge, and I'm scrambling to be ready for Thursday.
He


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Robert: arthritis, and the elimination of milk and grains

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 12:02:10:

In Reply to: Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:16:37:

Bob,

Although there is arthritis in my family, I don't actually have it myself. In January I thought I had another bout of bursitis (which I guess is a cousin to arthritis), but it was later found to be a misdiagnosis (and makes me question earlier diagnoses of bursitis). I am now seeing a chiropractor and she has found what the problem really is, and I haven't felt this good in years (back and hips).

I can handle the elimination of grains (does that include brown rice?) for 3-6 months, but as far as dairy is concerned, I was really looking forward to my decaf. coffee and half & half again! I can do without milk, cheese, etc., but please don't take my half & half away from me!

Sara


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Planning ahead - testing after e-diet

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 12:24:58:

In Reply to: Re: Day 4 for the E-Brigade - feeling much better posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 11:44:23:

Johnelle,

All I did was look at my list of e-diet foods, and my list of H-G foods. Each day (for about 10 days starting Thursday), I added three new foods from the H-G list to what is already being eaten on the e-diet (one new food at each meal). With each passing day, the 'base' of foods that are safe will change, as each previously introduced food (that didn't provoke a reaction) is added to the base. For example:

Thursday: Breakfast - beef cube steak*, zucchini. Lunch - cod, peas*, carrots. Dinner - chicken thigh*, turnip, pear.

Friday: Breakfast - cod, green beans*. Lunch - calves liver*, peas. Dinner - pork ribs*, rutabagas, peach.

*new food being tested

This schedule is subject to change, however, because if you have a reaction to any new food, you can't test a new one again for 24 hours (Robert, please correct me if I have any of this wrong).

Johnelle, I only did this ahead of time because I'm a planner by nature. I also needed to get my shopping list together!

Take care,
Sara


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Sara - good news, I think...Bob, please confirm!

Posted by trish on March 01, 1999 at 12:56:44:

In Reply to: Planning ahead - testing after e-diet posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 12:24:58:

Hi Sara!

Glad to see you're doing so well. Once you've tested beef - calve's liver isn't a new food anymore - Bob had mentioned to me that once you eat part of a cow, the rest of the parts hardly ever cause problems...SO you could probably go with another type of meat sooner...

Also, I am concerned about Bob's comments in another post about arthritis and grains - I have been sitting here munching my lunch of lamb and rice (brown) and had dinner last night of a "meatloaf" thing I made with ground turkey thigh and cooked rice. Maybe I should not eat it for a few months...Bob? I haven't felt worse and did NOT have another "echo" effect yesterday as we thought I might, but then again, I don't feel like I ever really cleared anything either. Will pick up the Nystatin tonight after work and start right on it. Then I suppose I'll really feel bad!

be well all you Brigaders!

trish


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Clearing in Kansas

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 01, 1999 at 12:59:37:

In Reply to: Re: Today's good news! posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:26:38:

Hi all, I have had modem woes this morning. Aside from that I feel pretty darn good today. I cooked my trout and had it for breakfast along with parsnips and carrots. The bad news is that the lady at the grocery store lied to me and they already ordered the mackerel, so I won't get mackerel until Sunday :-( I want to add variety here I'm telling you.

Today for the first day we started I have not felt nauseous upon awaking. I had a good nights sleep. I am feeling pretty energetic and my obsession about food cravings seems to have subsided. I ordered some new CD's to help get me through this thing and help with the SR... Well this morning I started chanting along with one of these new toys. At first Molly (the dog) thought I had flipped my lid. But I didn't let that stop me. I wailed for probably 30 minutes or so. It was kind of fun actually! And truly it felt as if there was an emotional & physical clearing for me. Last night I had a bout with depression. I was tired and feeling overwhelmed with the amount of responsibility I have in my life and not enough resources...blah blah same ole same ole. Anyway, I just took it easy and rode it out. And low and behold it did pass. The singing was really fun even if I did look like kind of a nut standing in my living room in my nightie wailing my heart out. I highly recommend it if you are so inclined. Now I don't know if I reached alpha or theta or not, but my body-mind says it was a good thing to do.

Phyllis, hang in there. It is OK that you don't write but it is important for you to take good care of yourself. Sara I could stand to gain from your organizational prowess...I'm just going to pay attention to what you do and follow in your footsteps... But one of my first food introductions is not going to be calves liver. BLAH I will need some help with the liver eating. That makes white fish sound good!
Don't forget to eat your trouts Johnelle :-)
Namaste,
Denise

PS: I have an enormous amount of chicken livers in my freezer. WE butchered 200+ chickens and the livers are still here as I am not a fan of them. Too bad I can't whip up a batch of livers for all my new H-G and invite Y'AALLL over for dinner (grin)


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Bonking

Posted by trish on March 01, 1999 at 13:04:22:

In Reply to: Re: Today's good news! posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:26:38:

Hi Bob!

I am interested in this "bonking" thing, because when I am eating a high protein diet, it seems I don't do that nose dive at all. I just get hungry. Not the horrible familiar shakey, sweaty, like I'm gonna faint if I don't eat feeling that I USED to get from the hypoglycemia; just plain hungry. Of course, so far, I haven't really gone all that long without food...but still, it's a very different feeling.

Jsut adding my 2% of a dollar.

trish

p.s. please see my post to sara about good news...


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What time should I be there? (sitting with my fork in hand)

Posted by trish on March 01, 1999 at 13:09:27:

In Reply to: Clearing in Kansas posted by Denise Wyrick on March 01, 1999 at 12:59:37:

Denise,

I love you sense of humor about all of this...keep it up!
trish



Re: Robert: arthritis, and the elimination of milk and grains

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 13:33:54:

In Reply to: Robert: arthritis, and the elimination of milk and grains posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 12:02:10:

Sara,

If you are a H-G I don't know that I can recommend decaf coffee!

I guess in the end you'll just have to test it -- the coffee first and then the coffee with half and half. I'll have you drink some half and half three times a day for 4 days. You'll have to do the same with rice.

I'm starting to think that the contamination factor of other grains (including rice) with trace amounts of wheat might be the hidden problem.

Bob


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Re: Sara - good news, I think...Bob, please confirm!

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 13:38:00:

In Reply to: Sara - good news, I think...Bob, please confirm! posted by trish on March 01, 1999 at 12:56:44:

Trish,

I think that you are a candida relapsee (hey look, we've invented a word)!

As far as the rice goes I really don't know what to tell you. You could eliminate it for 5 days and then re-introduce and eat it on the 3 times/day for 4 days schedule.

Bob


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Re: Planning ahead - testing after e-diet

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 13:41:44:

In Reply to: Planning ahead - testing after e-diet posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 12:24:58:

Sara,

You've got the concept right. Trish is right that chicken flesh of various types (liver versus thigh) will have a similar allergenic profile. The liver might effect you a bit differently energy-wise since it has more purine. The chicken thigh might make your energy last longer since there is more fat. Don't worry, these are subtle factors that you will learn as you become an expert H-G.

Bob



Re: Bonking

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 13:48:49:

In Reply to: Bonking posted by trish on March 01, 1999 at 13:04:22:

Trish,

You are not as probably as EXTREME as I am and that's a good thing.

In my case when I actually get to the point of being hungry if I don't eat within the hour I'm in trouble. My friends can validate this when we go out. I'm one unhappy camper if I target to eat around 7:30 and (for whatever reason) we don't get around to eating until 9:30.

In the end I've learned to eat (a small meal) before going out to eat. Then I can be my usual cheery self :)

Bob



Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob

Posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 15:44:24:

In Reply to: Planning ahead - testing after e-diet posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 12:24:58:

Sara, thank you so much for taking the time to write all
this down. It is very valuable. You must be a born leader.
I prefer following unless there is no one to lead, and then
I'll just do it. I'm leading enough these days, so this is
a very comfortable position, following.

Robert, until the last several months I've never been much
of a meat eater. What factors determine your being an
absoulte Hunter-Gatherer or a crossover blend? T


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Thanks for the compliment.....

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 16:53:45:

In Reply to: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 15:44:24:

....but actually I'm more of a follower. I'm alot like you, I follow unless there's no one else that seems to take the lead. Then I will. Although, in the past couple of years I have been following less than I had in the past. Maybe it's because I'm getting older (44) and just have more confidence in myself.

Thanks!
Sara



Thanks again Robert! (nmi)

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 16:55:46:

In Reply to: Re: Robert: arthritis, and the elimination of milk and grains posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 13:33:54:

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Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 17:59:15:

In Reply to: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 15:44:24:

Johnelle,

I'm not sure that I understand your question.

Ultimately the type of metabolism that you possess is based on heredity.

The types of food that your ancestors ate was due to geography which determined climate.

Is the 'cross-over' blend that you are referring to the Mixed metabolic types?

Bob


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Re: Today's good news!

Posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 20:26:16:

In Reply to: Re: Today's good news! posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 11:26:38:

I know exactly what you're talking about regarding not
eating and falling apart. It happens to me USUALLY, but
every once in a while I notice I can go from breakfast till
about 2-3pm without really feeling hunger, if I'm involved
in something that holds my attention, like gardening, for
instance.

Is it possible to be a H-G with some Ag. in you also? I
can't imagine myself not being a big salad eater every day
at lunch. I always have to have some meat with it, but
salad is my favorit


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Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob

Posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 20:29:13:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 17:59:15:

I have no knowledge of the metabolic types, so I feel like
I'm getting in over my head (as I often do), but I am
wondering if some people have a blen


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Metabolic types

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 21:03:21:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 20:29:13:

Johnelle,

Months ago when I was researching different diets (because I had already tried the ER4YT diet, and it wasn't right 4 me), I was following the posts that Robert made in response to diet questions. I then looked in the archives because I wanted to see how each type was defined, and also the diet for the three types (H-G, Mixed, and Agriculturist (sp?)).

The information should still be there (I haven't looked in awhile, because I printed out all the information months ago). I think what you want to know is if you are a Mixed, right? They eat a mix of both H-G and agriculturist, in a ratio of 2:1. There is more to it than that, I'm sure, but I don't have that print-out in front of me.

Robert should be able to tell you (if not now, then by Thursday) which metabolic type you are based on what you have been eating during the e-diet, and how you have felt with what you were eating. And he can give you the specifics of what you should eat (and how) if you are a Mixed.

I think we ALL want to end up being Mixed (I know I do), but I strongly suspect I'm a H-G (as Robert had figured). I couldn't make it through a meal on just vegetables, and even the cod isn't enough to satisfy me for lunch or dinner.

Can you believe we're at the end of day 4!? I feel SO much better today!

Take care,
Sara



Thanks Trish - how's the testing going?

Posted by Sara on March 01, 1999 at 21:18:02:

In Reply to: Sara - good news, I think...Bob, please confirm! posted by trish on March 01, 1999 at 12:56:44:

trish,

Thanks for the info. How's the testing going so far? I still don't understand what an 'echo' effect is (but then I still don't understand the difference between withdrawal and clearing either; maybe I DO still have a little brain fog going on).

I was a little worried when Bob said no milk/grains, but I think I have that straightened out now. I was REAL concerned about no decaf. coffee - wouldn't be so bad if we H-G's could have herbal tea in it's place. But I'm going to go ahead and test it anyway.

Hope all goes well with the Nystatin. Maybe if you start out on a lower dose and work up to the dose Walt recommends you won't have too bad a reaction from the die-off. Let us know how it goes.

Take care,
Sara





Re: Today's good news!

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 22:14:38:

In Reply to: Re: Today's good news! posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 20:26:16:

Johnelle,

Sorry, I don't think that our ancestors were big on the salad. That's not to say that they didn't eat greens but certainly not the way we eat today.

I think that you will see that what we eat (and like to eat) is more a learned thing than anything else.

Bob



Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 22:20:36:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 20:29:13:

Johnelle,

Dr. Watson discovered that there were three distinct metabolic subsets. Within each subset there was variance in how EXTREME someone was.

Sara is quite right. During the next couple of days keep a close diary of what you eat, when you eat and how you feel and I think I'll be able to sort out which metabolic diet to begin with.

Tell me what were you eating for the last year BEFORE you embarked on the E-diet?

Bob


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Great...just what I'd hoped for when I was a little girl...

Posted by trish on March 02, 1999 at 13:53:38:

In Reply to: Re: Sara - good news, I think...Bob, please confirm! posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 13:38:00:

to have a new word or phrase like "candida relapsee" made up just for me. :-}

I guess I will eliminate rice again after I finish off the little bit I have left, and then do as you suggest. Thanks!
trish



Diet for the last year -- Bob

Posted by Johnelle on March 02, 1999 at 22:30:45:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Robert McFerran on March 01, 1999 at 22:20:36:

Just stumbled upon your post of yesterday. In the last year
it has become obvious to me that I must have some meat at
every meal. Before that I was eating mostly pastas,
sandwiches. When I was diagnosed with FM in the Fall of '97
I had also developed an allergy to wheat, maybe all grains.
At one point I was so bad that I could eat just one bite of
bread at a restaurant and would get phlegm in my throat and
start coughing. If I ate true chocolate (not the cheap
stuff) my throat very shortly began to feel raw like an
allergic reaction was taking place. Since all that I have
listened to my body enough to stay away from refined
starches, but I have relapses once monthly before my
menstrual cycle starts, when my attitude is "I don't care
what it does to me; I've got to have this candy bar." You
could say I eat everything healthy I am supposed to have and
then all the junk food I can get my hands on. I eat lots of
vegetables, always have. It's not unusual for me, at
mealtime, to have half a plate of raw cucumbers, lettuce,
carrots, mushrooms, and a little ranch dressing, then a
piece of meat, and always a piece of fresh fruit for
dessert. I think I have an allergy to citrus. I get the
same phlegm in my throat after eating an orange or drinking
o.j. In fact, I have some phlegm in my throat all the time
since my health fell apart. I thought it was from a bad
surgery job on my deviated septum, but now I see it as what
pushed me over the cliff, as Walt describes it.

My favorite meals these days are the tofu stroganoff or
chicken salad or vegetable pesto pizza at our local health
food store. I realize it's high in calories and fat, but I
feel "safer" in the health food store since they use their
products in cooking. But mid-morning and mid-afternoon I
would head for the cabinet and get a handful of Doritos to
take the edge off till supper, just like an alcoholic would.

Monday was my best day so far on the diet -- hunger gone,
didn't have to eat much. Tuesday, I'm back to cramming
stuff in my mouth every time I turn around. Today I had to
leave a line I was standing in for 2 hours to buy tickets
for the NCAA Championship Basketball Game in our town,
because I felt the tremors coming on. I ate 1/2 peach
before I went to the line, but 2 1/2 hours later I was in a
real state, had to rush home and steam veggies real quick,
then had grilled trout and a yam for dinner and a peach for
dessert. Now I have to fast for 14 hours for this test
tomorrow and I'm wondering if I'll be able to drive without
something to eat.

Thanks for yo


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Re: Diet for the last year -- Bob

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 02, 1999 at 23:05:26:

In Reply to: Diet for the last year -- Bob posted by Johnelle on March 02, 1999 at 22:30:45:

Johnelle,

You'll probably do fine on your drive if you don't eat anything.

Carbohydrate signals your body to release insulin. If there isn't enough fat and purine there to buffer it you will bonk. The best way to bonk is to do EXACTLY what you did -- have a piece of fruit by itself.

The thing that your body wants when it wants Doritos is FAT.......

Bob


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Re: Diet for the last year -- Bob

Posted by Johnelle on March 03, 1999 at 06:56:25:

In Reply to: Re: Diet for the last year -- Bob posted by Robert McFerran on March 02, 1999 at 23:05:26:

That is a very valuable thing for me to learn. Thanks so
much for giving me that insight. It is 6am Wednesday and
I'm wide awake, didn't sleep much last night, but I'm glad
to see I won't fall apart. That's my idea of hell, to go
through withdrawals like that. Thanks ag



Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob

Posted by Nancy on March 03, 1999 at 17:42:27:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks, Sara -- Yet another Q for Bob posted by Johnelle on March 01, 1999 at 20:29:13:

Johnelle

Hi! I've been following your progress. Congratulations on your efforts! I haven't done that e-diet yet. Just too hard for me at this point, with a job, kids, and now my husband is working in Natchez during the week, coming home every Friday night. Anyway...regarding the metabolic type, several months ago, I had some blood work done and sent it to Robert, who dx'd me pretty definitively as H-G. Uric acid level was one of the criteria. I'm sure he'd tell you exactly. The other thing, was if you get shaky when you drink too much caffeinated beverages, which I do. I cofirmed the dx based on the way I feel when I eat high protein, low carb. meals--much better!! I used to eat cereal for breakfast and was starving by 10 am. Now that I eat an egg and 2 slices of turkey bacon every morning, I can easily go till noon or longer without even thinking about food. If you have the mixed type, I think that would be the easiest to deal with, so I hope you do. I cannot eat fruit, sugar, or caffeine without symptoms. Let us know when you find out which type you are.

Nancy



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