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Day 6 for the E-Brigade

Posted by Johnelle on March 03, 1999 at 07:40:10:

Hello everybody! I woke up at 2:15 this a.m. Couldn't
sleep well all night. I was obsessing over perhaps
forgetting to retrieve my first morning urine for my doctor
to run some tests. I finally decided to save it at 2:15. I
couldn't go back to sleep (HUNGER), so I got my sound and
light gizmo and the show started in my brain. I had the
most psychadelic dreams! It was a weird never-never land I
entered where things were so real but they weren't. I
thought my husband rolled over and gave me a very aggressive
kiss, I thought I went downstairs and played the piano in
the middle of the night, etc. I actually had to ask my
husband this morning if he did it. Thank goodness he
didn't! I didn't want to face our marriage getting into a
new phase or something! I'm handling enough already!

But to update everyone, I am doing okay, just okay. I do
not have bursts of energy (except maybe Monday), and I think
today is going to be a headache day since I can't eat till
after I give blood, urine and saliva samples at 10:30. I am
definitely looking forward to my ribeye tomorrow! Hope you
all have a great day, and thanks to all of you in the
bleachers cheering for us and giving much-needed support. I
would not have finished this trip with


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Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day!

Posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 07:59:39:

In Reply to: Day 6 for the E-Brigade posted by Johnelle on March 03, 1999 at 07:40:10:

Johnelle,

Sorry you have to have those tests today - what with still being on the e-diet and all that you go through on that, to have to FAST would be asking a bit much of me, I'm afraid. I'm sure that ribeye will taste extra good tomorrow!

I got very little sleep last night also, but for different reasons. First, yesterday evening I took my daily dose of Synthroid, and wasn't thinking (because of other things going on in the household) and swallowed it down with about 4 ounces of TAP water. I was so upset, I almost started to cry. I still don't know if I've screwed things up now (because of the chlorine in the tap water) and hopefully Robert will let me know. Also had to play mediator yesterday afternoon between husband and 22 year old son, and that just got to me more than usual for some reason. Anyway, I didn't get to sleep until after midnight, but woke up at 3:30, and have been up ever since. I have a very important job interview this morning, so I'm nervous about that and want to be at my best (and I usually require more than three hours of sleep). Guess I'm feeling a little depressed, and I REALLY need to snap out of it.

Anyway, it will be good to finally be able to eat some beef tomorrow (I have really missed it). I have more I need to ask Robert, but am running out of time - need to get ready for that interview. Will post again when I get back.

Sara


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Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day!

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 03, 1999 at 09:03:09:

In Reply to: Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day! posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 07:59:39:

Good morning all, Sara best of luck on the job interview, and Johnelle sounds like an interesting night you had playing the piano in your sleep! Yes indeed this ole gal is thinking about going out and searching for a nice filet mignon on her first day of adding new foods to the diet.

I feel more alive today. Haven't had the fish for breakfast yet but somehow today it doesn't feel so despairing as I know I will be able to add some variety soon. I am waking up earlier even though I feel like my mind is really going on overdrive and the SR doesn't feel as relaxing as it did pre e-diet. Anyway it would appear that I am managing with less sleep these days in a good way. The brain fog seems better for me today. We shall see as the day goes on. I have a group of folks that I get together with every 2 weeks for meditation and discussion/exploration. I am looking forward to that and hope that I feel energized by the experience since usually by 7 pm my brain feels pretty foggy.

Thanks for all the support from everyone out there in cyberspace cheering us through the process.

Namaste,
Denise

PS: I have no headache, no aches or pains, just not a ball of fire energy wise but on the other hand not fatigued I'm kind of like Johnelle said I'm just OK. I would say that my face is slowly approaching a more normal color and is getting less red by the day(it is a subtle change though). Seems like more in the way of food will help the energy level for me.



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Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day!

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 03, 1999 at 13:19:27:

In Reply to: Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day! posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 07:59:39:

Sara,

Basically I think that you've cleared enough that you could notice a reaction to the chlorine in the tap water. If you haven't had a pounding headache or some other hyper-acute reaction you are probably fine with it. Chemical sensitivities tend to hit hard and fast (usually within 15 minutes of exposure) and clear rapidly (within a couple of hours after the reaction).

Bob


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Some interesting findings, and a question for Robert (and Walt)

Posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 14:06:32:

In Reply to: Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day! posted by Robert McFerran on March 03, 1999 at 13:19:27:

Bob and Walt,

Now that my day has slowed down a bit, I just wanted to post to you about some of the things that I've noticed since I've been on the e-diet.

I had told you before about my pulse rate going down; it has stayed down (between 68-74), and I don't think it has ever been this low in my life (at least not in my adult life).

I have also noticed that my feet aren't cold all the time anymore (just noticed this since Monday). My feet are usually like blocks of ice (even in nice weather, 60's to 70's), but they actually feel warm alot of the time now. And when they aren't warm, they just feel cool (but not cold anymore). The weather in my area hasn't warmed up enough for it to be attributable to that (it's still in the 40's to 50's).

And, the reason why I had put off doing the e-diet for so long was my weight. I have a fast metabolism and am usually underweight or borderline. Believe it or not, I have actually GAINED 1-2 pounds. This really has me baffled (but happy!). I was discussing it with my chiropractor (she has been following my progress with the e-diet), and she said that maybe it's because I am eating more regularly than I had before. I don't think I'm getting more calories than before, but my food intake has been spaced out regularly during the day (the way people are SUPPOSED to eat). Before the e-diet, I rarely ate breakfast, and alot of times skipped lunch. But I always had a good dinner, and then would eat almost non-stop from dinner until bedtime (a night-feeder). And alot of it was junk, but high-calorie junk. So what do you think? Does eating on a more normal schedule make a difference when it comes to how your body metabolizes the food? I'm really interested in your answer (and Walt's too).

I can't believe that this is the last day - it went faster than I thought it would (although Saturday & Sunday seemed to drag by). Now on to the testing starting tomorrow! My husband said he is going to stop on the way home from work and buy me a steak for tomorrow's breakfast, because he said he figured I deserved it for sticking it out on the diet - what a sweetie!

Sara


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Sara, sounds like the diet is really working for you That's great!(NMI)

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 03, 1999 at 14:33:00:

In Reply to: Some interesting findings, and a question for Robert (and Walt) posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 14:06:32:


NMI



Re: Some interesting findings, and a question for Robert (and Walt)

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 03, 1999 at 14:59:44:

In Reply to: Some interesting findings, and a question for Robert (and Walt) posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 14:06:32:

Sara,

I've found that weight loss or gain has very little to do with caloric intake.

The fact that your pulse normalized down and your weight normalized up during a diet where I'm pretty sure that you were getting less calories than usual shows this association.

The sensation of always being cold, especially the extremities is also common. At the same time some folks complain of being too hot. Both normalize as they eliminate food allergies and move to their proper metabolic diet. Basically YOU have just became LESS MALADAPTED due to your dietary changes. It will only improve as you really embrace the H-G diet.

This all goes back to the work by Hans Seyle, M.D. He found that all animals have a similar physiological response to stress -- and that the TYPE of stress really didn't matter. It could be psychological or physiological. Folks often find that their heartbeat normalizes (slows in your case), their weight normalizes (increases in your case) and that the temperature of their extremities normalize (in your case warm up) when they practice regular skilled relaxation.

So why do skilled relaxation AND proper dietary 'alignment' seen to have THE SAME EFFECTS?

By doing the skilled relaxation you are ameliorating stress effect. By doing the elimination diet and finding the proper metabolic diet you are removing a huge stressor that was forcing your body to react in a maladapted way.

Congratulations Sara, nutritionally speaking you are now swimming with the current as opposed to against it.

Bob



Re: Some interesting findings, and a question for Robert (and Walt)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1999 at 10:38:57:

In Reply to: Some interesting findings, and a question for Robert (and Walt) posted by Sara on March 03, 1999 at 14:06:32:

Dear Sara,

Isn't it interesting how much difference an appropriate diet can make so quickly???? You are already through the tough times and are just scratching the surface of the benefits you will see if you persist.

Healthy people are not vastly under or over weight. If this diet is appropriate for you (and it already seems that it is a lot better than what you knew before) you will likely gain weight with it just like overweight people will lose weight finding THEIR best diet.

I hope you will continue to let us know of your experiences.

Congratulations! Walt





Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day! (CONSIDER!)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1999 at 10:43:33:

In Reply to: Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day! posted by Denise Wyrick on March 03, 1999 at 09:03:09:

Dear Denise,

I am sure you don't really want to hear this but, here goes:

If I were you, with what you are saying, I would make this test be 10-12 days & not 6. I will bet that you will see a LOT more benefits by then and get a lot more information from your "test" than you already know.

Persist! Walt


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(CONSIDER!) Walt & Bob

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 15:59:26:

In Reply to: Re: Day 6 for the E-Brigade - the last day! (CONSIDER!) posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1999 at 10:43:33:

Whoops Walt I just discovered this note from you about waiting to do the food testing until I cleared more. With the brain fog and computer woes that I was having somehow I missed your note to me. I was so desperate to get some food in me. Do you think I have jeopardized my efforts?

Well now that I have proceeded along in the process, Do you think I have moved too quickly and should slow down? Comments from both of you would be greatly appreciated.
Namaste,
Denise


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Re: (CONSIDER!) Walt & Bob

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 08, 1999 at 16:56:03:

In Reply to: (CONSIDER!) Walt & Bob posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 15:59:26:

Denise,

When I look at the big picture I feel pretty comfortable with the protocol for the E-diet that I've shared with you. Some folks do clear slower than others but they also tend to have withdrawal later than others. In any case withdrawal and clearing are very close to each other.

Of course I could be EXTRA safe and tell folks to spend twice the usual amount of time on the E-diet but I don't think many could tolerate the fish. Many H-G's could also find it metabolically difficult.

Since I had all the e-dieters move to testing the CORE foods first (ones that they tend to be better adapted) you had a little extra time to do more clearing.

Candidiasis is the usual culprit when someone doesn't expect much in the way of clearing.

There is lots of work to do and it's easy to muddled in what is only the FIRST task on the list (the E-diet).

Several folks start feeling their oats after 3-4 months on the proper metabolic diet. I'm convinced that this is HUGE in that it allows for re-normalization of so many things.
Many folks NEVER see a dramatic improvement but they do see a very steady and long-term improvement as these things normalize.

This reminds me of a woman with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue in San Francisco. She experienced some withdrawal but very little clearing during the E-diet. She was a post-menopausal H-G who wasn't eating that way when I first met her. She found a couple of minor food sensitivities and testing negative for candida using the Immune Complexes test.

At 3 months after starting her program she was starting to have some 'good' days and found it easier to go out with friends, shop, etc. At 6 months she called excitedly to tell me that she just ran up the steps of her 2nd story condo without realizing it (something that she hadn't done in 5 years). At 9 months she called to tell me that she was enjoying "exercising" regularly (bicycling and walking). I put the quotations around "exercising" since instead of something that she had to do -- this is something that she wanted to do.

At 12 months she called me and told me she went back to work. This vivacious woman was now, as she put it, "back in the game".

Bob


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Thanks Bob, that helps

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 17:26:04:

In Reply to: Re: (CONSIDER!) Walt & Bob posted by Robert McFerran on March 08, 1999 at 16:56:03:

Well I was feeling pretty good energy wise before I went on the e-diet... it does seem like the fish was very difficult for me metabolically. I would have had a really hard time doing fish for another week but could have managed with the addition of lamb.

In reference to your other note...since I tested olive oil and am OK with it I think I am going to have a snack of celery sticks, dipped in olive oil and sip some fenugreek tea and see how things come out.

Over and out,
Denise




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Re: Thanks Bob, that helps (Next time?)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 09, 1999 at 11:40:36:

In Reply to: Thanks Bob, that helps posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 17:26:04:

Hi, Denise.

You will note that YOU are the only one to whom I suggested extending the "trip". Your many withdrawal experiences told me that, if this were me, I would invest more days to get more out of it.

That possibility is now past but, should you have to go through this in the future (In MY opinion a more likely scenario than if you had taken this longer.) perhaps you will recall this thought and do it longer next time?

Walt



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