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a question for Bob: monthly cycling

Posted by Denise on March 03, 1999 at 21:43:15:

Hi Bob,

A few questions came to mind as I was going through the archives again and discovered some things I had missed the first time around.

I had thought I was AG, but now am thinking that I cycle. First, I developed cravings for olive oil and peanuts about a week after running the elimination diet; it's as if they are my substitutes for the grains, sugar products, and cheese I used to snack on all day long. Second, I recalled that when I fast during the month of Ramadan, I have stretches that are incredibly easy, and stretches that are very difficult. So, my question is, what is the best way to determine if one cycles? Or rather, how long does one have to be on whole foods before one's cravings actually mean a healthy body response? (unlike those old grain/sugar/dairy cravings). And would one's sensitivites to grains and other foods change as well during cycling?

Thanks so much for all your help, Denise


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Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 03, 1999 at 23:15:39:

In Reply to: a question for Bob: monthly cycling posted by Denise on March 03, 1999 at 21:43:15:

Denise,

One of the questions that I usually ask pre-menstrual women is if they feel an exacerbation of their symptoms pre-menstrually, during their menses or post-menstrually.

The metabolic cycling is exposed (or unmasked) once the individual hones in on the proper metabolic diet for that portion of their cycle. When they cycle into another metabolic subset they usually experience a DRAMATIC loss of well being about 24-48 hours after they have moved into their new metabolic subset. In other words you might feel great pre-menstrually but then about a day of so after you start your period you notice a significant decrease in energy level.

I don't know if a metabolic 'cycler' would be less sensitive to grains when they are in Agriculturist mode as compared to H-G mode. I've considered it but I've never asked a cycler to test the effect when I know they are sensitive to something at one part of their cycle.

Bob


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Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy

Posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 08:16:03:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling posted by Robert McFerran on March 03, 1999 at 23:15:39:

Bob,

I'm finished with the e-diet and ready to start testing foods today! I am pretty sure I'm a H-G (and you also thought so, although you had also said I could be Mixed based on some information I had given you back in November-December).

What I am wondering is how do you determine if a pre-menopausal woman is Mixed if she's had a hysterectomy, still has her ovaries, and doesn't take any hormone supplements?

It's been ten years since my hysterectomy, so I have NO idea when my cycles are, although some months I can feel when I'm ovulating (I could do that almost every month before the surgery; I just don't pay as much attention to it anymore). All my bloodwork to check my hormone levels always comes back normal (in fact my doctor just checked again in December).

I ask this because prior to the e-diet, there were times during the month when I noticed my chocolate (and other) cravings were more intense than at other times. But depending on where I was in my cycle during the e-diet, how would I know if I'm Mixed?

Sara


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Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling

Posted by Denise on March 04, 1999 at 09:46:17:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling posted by Robert McFerran on March 03, 1999 at 23:15:39:

Thanks, Bob. Between your info and my fasting experiences I think I can determine pretty easily how my cycling goes. After a few months on the whole foods diet I'll test my grain sensitivities when I'm in the AG phase and let you know how it goes. -- Denise



Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 04, 1999 at 11:42:36:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 08:16:03:

Sara,

Since you still have your ovaries you still go through the hormonal cycles that can drive metabolism in 'metabolic cyclers'.

The only way to figure this out is simply to lock onto one dietary plan (say Mixed) and watch your energy level and see if there is a DRAMATIC change over the course of the month. If you feel a dramatic change you should move to the H-G diet first. If your energy level does not return within 48 hours then move to the Agriculturist diet. 48 hours later you should see your energy level return. Then you just wait until the next significant loss of energy and move back to the Mixed diet.

I've never seen a woman that cycled into all three metabolic subsets. In your case your chocolate cravings might have been related to a shift into a H-G metabolism.

Of course you can't figure out all this stuff in the first 30 days. Usually it takes 2-3 months to completely realize what is going on and confirm what you need to to when you need to do it so that you will have smooth sailing metabolically speaking.

Bob


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Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 04, 1999 at 11:44:32:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 08:16:03:

Sara,

I forgot to mention that you might be able to detect when you ovulate by changes in your basal temperatures. Dr. Stoll might know how you can detect changes in your cycle.

Bob



Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy

Posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 12:23:01:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy posted by Robert McFerran on March 04, 1999 at 11:42:36:

Bob,

Thanks - I will follow your recommendations after I complete the food testing. And thanks too for all of your support and advise through the e-diet. You really helped the E-Brigade make it through!

I will keep you posted during my food testing, and also when I finally move on to the metabolic diet, to let you know how it's going (and also to probably get additional questions answered!). Your patience is greatly appreciated, Bob!

Sincerely,
Sara



Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1999 at 12:34:05:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 08:16:03:

Dear Sara,

GEE! I's so glad you asked this because it gives me the oportunity to teach a little physiology.

First of all "cycles" are controlled by the hypothalamus via the pituitary. SO, even if you had your pituitary removed you would still have a sort of cycle.

Certainly, the uterus has NOTHING to do with the cycling. It is but an end organ of that cycling.

Even the removal of the ovaries has little to do with "cycling" although more than the uterus.

Women who do things like yoga for years can easily tell their cycling even when the uterus & ovaries have been removed. Those who practice successful SR for a year or so will also begin to sense their cycle even though they may be years past a total hysterectomy.

How about THAT?

Namaste` Walt


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Knowing when you're cycling

Posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 16:04:01:

In Reply to: Re: a question for Bob: monthly cycling after a hysterectomy posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1999 at 12:34:05:

Walt,

I guess I'm not that far along yet in the SR, because I still can't tell for sure when I'm cycling. I'm PRETTY sure I am around the end of the month, but then sometimes I think it's just my imagination. I never had PMS, so can't go by that. However, I do know that usually around the end of the month I'm just a little bit more sensitive emotionally, and usually have stronger junk food (chocolate, chips, etc.) cravings.

I think I'll try the basal temp. method, but thanks for the information. BTW, I knew that the uterus had nothing to do with cycling, but I DIDN'T know that the hypothalamus controlled it all. Is there ANYTHING that the hypothalamus doesn't control???

Sara


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Re: Knowing when you're cycling

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 05, 1999 at 11:07:19:

In Reply to: Knowing when you're cycling posted by Sara on March 04, 1999 at 16:04:01:

Hi, Sara.

The more we learn about the hypothalamus, the more we understand that it is THE connection between the mind and the body in ways that we still are only just beginning to consider. At the very least, it is THE switchboard for everything.

Walt



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