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Constipation during food testing

Posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 09:23:19:

Robert, Walt, Johnelle, Denise, etc.,

Good morning all! Hope everyone is doing well this beautiful (but cold) Sunday morning!

I've been following your posts Johnelle & Denise, and it seems like we're all pretty much going through the same things with this food testing, although I've been lucky enough not to have a reaction to anything yet. However, I noticed that you both had posted about constipation, and I am now having a definate problem with it. Yesterday evening was unpleasant, to say the least.

I hate to ask you the same question you've already answered two times yesterday, but I REALLY need to do something about this. I'm drinking plenty of water (between 64 and 96 ounces per day). Colon hydrotherapy sessions are not an option for me (for personal reasons). I'm afraid that I'm going to get hemorrhoids again if this continues much longer, and it took me months to get that problem under control a couple of years ago. Is there ANYTHING else that can be done?

Thanks for your infinite patience with all of these questions, Bob!

Sara


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Re: Constipation during food testing

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 07, 1999 at 11:53:00:

In Reply to: Constipation during food testing posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 09:23:19:

Sara,

You could try another dose of the magnesium citrate -- only this time about 1/2 of the bottle should do the trick.

Bob


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Oh no not the dreaded green bottle :-o (Sara & Bob)

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 07, 1999 at 12:55:19:

In Reply to: Re: Constipation during food testing posted by Robert McFerran on March 07, 1999 at 11:53:00:

Sara, I found that drinking hot liquids seemed to help me get things moving again. So Bob here is my question. I would like to sample yet another blend of herbal tea. Here are the ingredients : Masai, Rose Hips, Chamomile, Cinnamon, Lemongrass, Peppermint, Papaya, Anise, Orange Peel, Ginger and Natural Flavors (???) Contains no sugar, artificial flavors, colors or preservatives. Does this sound like risky business for a H-G? It tastes pretty good, from what I remember. I'm still longing for some kind of flavor to drink.

I'm not uncomfortable enough to take the green stuff. I am just thinking something will get things moving pretty soon without resorting to the dreaded MC. Hot tea might be the ticket... I don't know.

Namaste
Denise


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Re: The dreaded green bottle :-o

Posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 13:28:43:

In Reply to: Oh no not the dreaded green bottle :-o (Sara & Bob) posted by Denise Wyrick on March 07, 1999 at 12:55:19:

Denise & Bob,

I think I would have to be in so much pain that my husband would be calling 911 before I would EVER take the mag. citrate again. But thanks for that option, Bob. Actually, if this doesn't correct itself in a few days, or I have another night like last night, I just may have to resort to the dreaded green bottle, as Denise calls it ;)

Denise - I just tested chamomile tea this morning because my thinking was that getting some warm liquids in me might get things moving. I didn't have any reaction to it, but am still waiting for some action down below. The brand I used doesn't have anything in it except for chamomile flowers (no added sugar, flavoring, preservatives, or ANYTHING for that matter), so I had figured it would be pretty safe. What other herbal teas have you tested so far?

Sara

P.S. Denise & Johnelle - Is it just me, or does the food testing seem to be just DRAGGING along? I am so anxious to test so many foods, and the three per day limit just makes it go so slow :(


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Re: Oh no not the dreaded green bottle :-o (Sara & Bob)

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 07, 1999 at 13:46:46:

In Reply to: Oh no not the dreaded green bottle :-o (Sara & Bob) posted by Denise Wyrick on March 07, 1999 at 12:55:19:

Denise,

You'll just have to cross your fingers with that mix.

Sounds dumb but a nice long walk in the park also helps constipation.

Bob



Re: The dreaded green bottle :-o Or a walk in the park?

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 07, 1999 at 14:35:52:

In Reply to: Re: The dreaded green bottle :-o posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 13:28:43:

Hi all, No Bob that doesn't sound dumb at all. I have been so busy getting myself fed that I haven't gotten any walking in since I started this process. Perhaps I will put a halter on one of the beautiful llama boys and do just that.

Actually today I am feeling more normal. Yes Sara, the food testing seems to drag on! Especially when I did the pea thing, it really set me back, and then the things that I had on hand didn't taste very good. When Charlie came home bearing all kinds of goodies that he purchased while on the road it really brightened up my life. Seems like the local produce leaves a lot to be desired. But as of last night I started getting some meals in that made me feel like I am ready to join the human race again. I had an enormous plate of food for lunch with all sorts of tasty vegetables and salmon that is out of this world. You know it takes more than a LITTLE adjustment to do this diet. But like I have heard so many people say on the BB it just takes a bit of time to get your taste buds back in working order. Well the other thing for me was that it also took a bit of time to get enough food back in me after the Elimination phase part. Whoops I guess I am rambling here...what else is new,eh?

Sara, to answer your question about the tea. I drank a "relaxing" blend made by Frontier that is bought in bulk from my whole foods grocery. It has chamomile, peppermint, and raspberry leaf in it. I didn't react to it. Bob said I could cross my fingers and hope that I didn't react to it. Since it was the "safest" looking blend that I had on hand I decided to go for it and it worked for me.

Sara & Johnelle, too bad you all can't join me in a walk with a llama as it sounds much less painful than "you know what". I feel like I am going to be able to pull this thing off and that the most difficult part is behind me now, and what a relief that is.

Namaste,
Denise


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Re: The dreaded green bottle :-o How about rebounding?

Posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 16:47:20:

In Reply to: Re: The dreaded green bottle :-o Or a walk in the park? posted by Denise Wyrick on March 07, 1999 at 14:35:52:

Hey everybody,

I'd have to pass on the walk in the park these days, especially today; the wind chill is -8. But I have been doing my rebounding (although not everyday, because I, too, have been spending so much time getting myself fed and my SR done). Think I'll go do some now!

Denise - I guess I'll have to check on different kinds of tea. I am also trying to follow the recommendations in "The Healing Power of Whole Foods" and kind of remembered that chamomile tea by Celestial Seasonings was okay. I just checked the book again, and noticed that she also lists Sleepytime, Mint Magic, Peppermint, and Spearmint (although I've never been big on mint). Think I'll get some Sleepytime though, just for variety.

Sara


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Re: Constipation during food testing (everybody) (Bob?)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 08, 1999 at 10:58:27:

In Reply to: Constipation during food testing posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 09:23:19:

Hi, you-all.

ANY radical alteration of diet can change bowel habits drastically for a while.

Robert: Wuld you be averse to people starting the constipation protocol on the homepage as a preventive for anyone doing the E/P protocol? Would it get in the way of anything you are doing?

Even now, at this late date, it would be better to do that than develop hemorrhoids, diverticulae, fissures, etc. This constipation could go on for months until the GI tract adusts to the "new you".

Walt


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Re: Constipation during food testing (everybody) (Bob?)

Posted by Robert McFerrran on March 08, 1999 at 12:33:14:

In Reply to: Re: Constipation during food testing (everybody) (Bob?) posted by Walt Stoll on March 08, 1999 at 10:58:27:

Walt,

The problem is that I've never had anyone run your constipation protocol after doing the elimination diet so I really don't know.

Usually folks that have been constipated in the past find relief by eliminating their major food allergens (usually milk and grains) via the elimination diet.

Generally speaking folks that have moved to the H-G diet will not have the same type of bowel movement that they migh have had before. In other words it's going to be less bulky.

I would suggest that the mineral oil stool softeners can be used first by I do have concerns about the metamucil and other psylium based products -- especially for Hunter-gatherers.

Testing a bit of black beans might be a better way to get a different type of fiber into their systems.

Bob


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Hey everyone, I have an idea!

Posted by trish on March 08, 1999 at 13:12:56:

In Reply to: Re: The dreaded green bottle :-o How about rebounding? posted by Sara on March 07, 1999 at 16:47:20:

I don't know if it's a GOOD one or not. I already tested fenugreek tea. Alvita makes it, and I'm sure you could find some bulk even at a health food store. It's sort of a wierd, bittery flavor, but I've always enjoyed it - I can't remember now why I first started drinkng it. I does have some medicinal qualities, however, and one of them is a mild, bulk laxative effect! Maybe just what you've been looking for. That may have been why I was wanting some the other day...I don't remember now.

Bob? I tried it the other day, desperate for some flavor in my liquid... no reaction here. Maybe it will help. Slippery elm tea is also good for getting things moving, but I found the fenugreek easier to make. (not all those sticks and twigs you have to boil)

trish


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Adding bulk to the H-G diet

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 15:27:06:

In Reply to: Re: Constipation during food testing (everybody) (Bob?) posted by Robert McFerrran on March 08, 1999 at 12:33:14:

Hi all, After my bout with peas... I am leary of legumes. Actually I was thinking brown basmati rice would add some bulk to my diet. Now I know that grains are a different deal to test so talk to me about the options here. Perhaps I need to adjust my mindset, I am moving, just in miniature fashion :-) Boy you just get up close and personal here for all the world to read about eh?

I would be more inclined to go for foods as opposed to taking something at this point. Talk to me Bob & Walt. I appreciate your input!

Namaste,Denise

PS: I am doing OK, don't feel uncomfortable. I think it was Sara that expressed more discomfort in regard to being bound up.


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Good thinking Trish! What do you think about that Bob?

Posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 15:34:33:

In Reply to: Hey everyone, I have an idea! posted by trish on March 08, 1999 at 13:12:56:

I might have some fenugreek on hand. I drank some it back when I was having my asthma attacks a few months ago and it does have some medicinal qualities. I'll have to go dig around and see if there is any left.

Your terrific Trish, thanks for the thought!
Namaste,
Denise


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Re: Adding bulk to the H-G diet

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 08, 1999 at 16:30:42:

In Reply to: Adding bulk to the H-G diet posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 15:27:06:

Denise,

My father-in-law in Rome would take a tablespoon of olive oil three times a day, between meal for constipation. Since mineral oil is inert it does an even better job.

Personally I think that raw celery is awefully good to give H-G's bulk. Try a couple of salted stalks each day and report back to mission control.

Bob


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Re: Good thinking Trish! What do you think about that Bob?

Posted by Robert McFerran on March 08, 1999 at 16:33:14:

In Reply to: Good thinking Trish! What do you think about that Bob? posted by Denise Wyrick on March 08, 1999 at 15:34:33:

Denise,

I don't know about the fenugreek. It can't hurt to try it

Bob



Re: Adding bulk to the H-G diet

Posted by Johnelle on March 09, 1999 at 16:04:49:

In Reply to: Re: Adding bulk to the H-G diet posted by Robert McFerran on March 08, 1999 at 16:30:42:

I've not been uncomfortable in the least, just come from a
background where my mom's family reunion each year had as
the main discussion -- "So how are YOU dealing with your
constipation?" And as the family members have died off,
there's always a report of how bad the poor soul's bowels
got toward the end, not being able to do their own
concoctions anymore and relying on the medical folks to do
it for them, which never did the trick. It's programmed in
me that you've got to keep the stuff moving, and with LGS so
bad that you can see with the human eye the size particles
moving into my bloodstream I feel more vulnerable if I don't
stay cleaned out, so to speak.

I will do the olive oil and get some mineral oil tomorrow,
on my DAILY trip to the grocery to get more produce.

Thanks for the input!
Johnelle
.....



Re: Constipation during food testing (everybody) (Bob?)

Posted by JN on March 15, 1999 at 00:35:20:

In Reply to: Re: Constipation during food testing (everybody) (Bob?) posted by Robert McFerrran on March 08, 1999 at 12:33:14:

If one have constipations the best remedy is to eat;


PRUNES!!!!!



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