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A while ago I gave up my morning kefir/protein shake to see if it was a culprit in my ongoing sinus war. I didn't see any obvious improvement by giving up the kefir and so after being off of it for a couple of weeks I tried it again. I can't tell of any obvious negative response to it except that when I drink the kefir I get a lot of stomach noises, mostly gurgling-growling noises. Is this a bad sign that I'm kefir sensitive and should give it up? It's the only dairy product I consume.
Thanks.
In Reply to: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 23, 2002 at 10:10:45:
What is the source of kefir? cow? goat? pasturized? raw?
-HY
In Reply to: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 23, 2002 at 10:10:45:
Hi, Leif.
This woudl be more likely an indication of minor lactose intolerance and not a hypersensitivity to the caseine in the kefir.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Helping You on September 23, 2002 at 22:19:42:
It's from Helios: pasteurized cow milk. If it's a minor lactose intolerance, as Dr. Stoll says, would that lead to sinus problems? I've been taking 15 primal defense per day for two months thinking my problem might be candida, but now I think it's food sensitivities.
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Walt Stoll on September 24, 2002 at 08:08:24:
Thanks Dr. Stoll,
So I guess I should avoid the kefir, right? I've been practicing SR for 2 years. If it's lactose intolerance, then SR could not overcome this problem, right, since it has nothing to do with LGS? Or am I misunderstanding this problem?
My sinuses also react, sometimes immediately, to things like corn chips, popcorn, and sweet potatoe. I'm trying to figure out if this is a reaction to the grains? The high-sugar content of the sweet potatoe? A blood sugar problem? I'm currently off all grains, too, and my sinuses have seemed better, but then I reacted to the sweet potatoe. I think, even after two years of twice daily SR, I'm still bracing, as recently I had to give a presentation and was a nervous wreck. My stomach was churning, my sinuses got worse, and all this after listening to my centerpointe cd just before the presentation.
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 24, 2002 at 10:03:09:
Hi, Leif.
The answer to your question is no.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 24, 2002 at 10:14:58:
Hi, Leif.
The answers to your questions, in order, are:
1. Only if your symptoms make it worth while.
2. How have you certified that your SR is more than restful?
3. Lactose intolerance IS another burden for your GI tract to cope with SO, elimination of lactose might help some.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Walt Stoll on September 25, 2002 at 07:15:03:
Hi Doc,
Then what does lead to the sinus problems? I thought it might be candida, but if that was the case I would think I would have had better success from the PWFD and primal defense. When I drank the kefir the other day, it only made my stomach gurgle, it did not cause any noticeable sinus problems. Yesterday I made chili (all whole foods from Dr. Mercola's cookbook, no grains, no dairy), and I had a hard night with lots of gas going in both directions. Woke up fatigued, had another bowl of the chili for lunch and my sinuses got much worse and my voice became extremely hoarse. What's causing this? The beans? The tomato sauce? Too much protein? I don't have a clue. I'm getting to a point where I feel safe eating only raw or steamed veggies, but then I walk around feeling extremely weak until I eat something heavier, like meat, eggs, sweet potatoe, beans. But the more heavy items seem to lead to more sinus problems and fatigue. I guess I'm not digesting them well, but there seems to be no end to this, or no way to correct it. I take enzymes with every meal.
I had my SR certified by a biofeedback therapist over a year ago. However, I don't think I trust the guy. He convinced me he could help me by "training my brain". It cost me a lot of money and didn't help. Now I'm broke and there's no one else to see anyway. I know you're not a centerpointe expert, but I started my SR with those tapes 2 years ago. I didn't stick with it because I prefered to be able to meditate without the aid of props. Now I've gone back to listening to the Centerpointe tapes hoping they offer more of a guarantee of getting to the right relaxation level. I do feel amazingly relaxed. But do you know if these tapes will do the trick? I'm at a loss here on how to improve. I feel I've done everything that is discussed on this board for these types of problems. Right now I have no idea what I should eat or what to avoid. I can't do dairy, grains, and it appears I can't do meat or beans or sweet potatoes.
I would really appreciate it if you could give me some insight. Thanks.
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 25, 2002 at 17:32:03:
Try stopping the kefir. I would only use kefir from goat milk as it is more digestible. Anything that causes an immune reaction can cause your sinuses to become congested. You need to discover what is drainning your immune system and help build it up as well. NCR helps open up the sinuses and has great sucess with chronic congestion
-HY
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Helping You on September 25, 2002 at 18:10:24:
Thanks HY,
How does one go about discovering what is draining the immune system and build it up? I've been eating a whole foods diet, practicing SR, get a lots of aerobic exercise, all for two years now. I take Pefect Food twice a day, 15 PD per day, enzymes betain HCL with every meal...I've seen lots of improvement (I almost never get acid reflux anymore and when I do it's extremely minor), but I've been stuck at the same level for a long time. I've given up dairy and grains for long periods of time, and am off both again now. And I've done tons of research trying to find an answer. No one seems to have one.
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 25, 2002 at 19:34:35:
What is your diet like? IF possible, post 3 days of typical eating for you.
There are tests that can show which aspects of your immune system need help. You may have overgrowth of bad bacteria that could be impeding your progress.
How long have you been on the 15 caps of PD?
-HY
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Helping You on September 25, 2002 at 22:48:23:
A typical daily diet used to always begin with a kefir protein shake in the morning with goatein powder, flax seed oil, and berries. I've recently given that up, so breakfast as of late has been eggs (hard boiled or poached or mixed in with stir fry veggies), or organic turkey sausage, or leftovers (recently lentil soup). I've sometimes had eggs with the sausage but that must be too much protein for me because everytime I try that combination it sits in my gut like a brick and I get terribly fatigued. Eggs by themselves or the sausage by itself seems to be okay.
Lunch is typically a salad with olive oil followed by something like lentil soup, chicken soup, chili, etc., usually something I've made either from Nourishing Traditions or Mercola's cookbook. Dinner is sometimes the same or similar as lunch or more typically steamed veggies with a ground turkey patty (organic), or stir fry veggies with eggs. I try to have some kind of protein with each meal. I sometimes have some sauerkraut (Bubbies brand) with the ground turkey.
I usually have some walnuts or pecans for a snack. I was eating a couple of slices of sprouted grain bread with either butter or almond butter per day, but decided to get off grains so gave that up a few weeks ago.
I've been on 15 PD per day for about 2 months (I was on 3 to 6 per day for about a year before this, but I sometimes cheated on my diet). For the first month that I increased to 15 I was also taking one packet of VSL#3 in my kefir shake. I'm expecting a shipment of ThreeLac any day. I also have at least one glass of perfect food per day. I think that's about it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
BTW, I'm also using Centerpointe tapes twice a day (30 minutes each session) for SR, and doing rebounding almost every day.
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 25, 2002 at 17:32:03:
Thanks, Leif.
The connection to the sinuses is most commonly caused by a hypersensitivity to the protein portion of something you are eating. Of course, TMJ is a very common aggravationg factor as well.
How many different things were in the chili??? The ony way I know of to determine what is worth eliminating is by testing one thing at a time with the E/P protocol. Those things that cause problems are worth eliminating while dealing with the LGS and those with no reaction should be ignored.
Whichever SR works.
I agree that your biofeedback guy was questionable. IF your technique was "working" why did your brain need teaching?
In my opinion, if your technique was working you definitely did not need any training. If it was not, he was not being honest with you and your session as well as all the practice you continued doing, thinking that it was working, was wasted.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Walt Stoll on September 26, 2002 at 10:24:02:
Thanks Doc,
Your mention of TMJ made me think of something. I've read up on that before and didn't think it applied, as I've never noticed my teeth touching or clenching. However, every once in a while when I'm listening to the Centerpointe tapes, my teeth will suddenly jerk shut for just a second and ram against each other. It only happens once during a session (and not every time), but for that brief second the teeth coming together like that will be almost painful. Might this indicate TMJ, and if it does, would this possibly be a good sign that it is happening while listening to the tapes, like some kind of release? Or is that just wishful thinking?
There does seem to be a problem with protein digestion, though, too. As I mentioned to HY, if I eat eggs in the morning, I'm okay. If I eat turkey sausage, I'm also okay. But if I eat them both together, I feel like a swallowed a lead pipe. Too much protein, I guess. But taking enyzmes doesn't help.
Thanks again,
Leif
In Reply to: Re: kefir sensitivity posted by Leif on September 26, 2002 at 11:02:58:
Thanks, Leif.
TMJ is the end result of masseter muscle bracing. This bracing causes all of the symptoms attributed to TMJ. The TMJ is finally diagnosed when there is joint damage.
SO, many people have complications of masseter muscle bracing long before actual TMJ is diagnosable.
Hope this helps.
Walt
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