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I was wondering if you could help me at all - i am suffering from some major head aches - caused by ( i think ) my back and neck - they are sort of like a tension headace - from what i have read - but i just don't know how to get rid of them. I have what i call my 'sore sport' which is on my spine in between my shoulder blades - a physiotherapist looked at it and said that my spine was stiff and not moving in that part - she did some manipulation of that area but it seems not to have helped at all. I also have a problem with my neck - 8 years ago in my sleep i 'twitched' (like when dreaming - ny neck went crack and i could not put my head straigh forward - i went to a chiropractor for about a year after that but now my neck also hurts and it seems that when it starts hurting in my back and neck that the pain moves up from the base of my head and right over the top to my eyes. The pain can get so bad sometimes and i just have to take something to knock me out and go to sleep - that works only sometimes though as when i wake up it is still there. Normal over the counter drugs don't have any effect on the head aches at all and i take some stronger pain killers. I don't want to keep taking pills for the rest of my life and i don't know how to fix it? Any ideas about what i could do or what might be causing it?
Thanks.
In Reply to: Back and Neck Pain casuing headaches posted by Alli on November 25, 2002 at 06:02:51:
Hi Alli,
I see this type of problem frequently in my practice. There's definitely a way out!
The chiropractic adjustments won't do any good if you have too much muscular tension in your neck, shoulders, and the rest of your body. The tight muscles keep holding the bones in misalignment.
There's two ways that I know of to decrease the muscular tension. The first is to start getting regular massage sessions -- start with focused work on your neck and shoulders to get you out of pain. Occasionally include full body massage to encourage overall relaxation.
Then, if I were you, I would start alternating massage and chiropractic treatments. The two modalities in combination can often help where one alone brings no results.
The third thing that can be an important help for you is stretching. Be careful here -- if you start to do stretching movements too soon, you can injure yourself and cause yourself more trouble. Your massage therapist or chiropractor will probably be able to tell you when you can start. Stretching for 10 - 15 minutes every day is a good idea.
The fourth thing is read the information on this website about Bracing and Skilled Relaxation. Do this right away, learn how to do Skilled Relaxation and practice it twice a day, for 20 minutes, for 6 months. This is the second way of decreasing muscular tension.
Read also the article on this website called "How to be Healthy." Your diet and the exercise you get are also contributors to this problem.
If you do all of this, you will be feeling better soon, get off drugs, and in my estimation, overcome your problem completely. It's a lot to do, but it is worth it. Take it one step at a time.
Best wishes,
Happygal (Certified Massage Therapist)
In Reply to: Re: Back and Neck Pain casuing headaches posted by Happygal on November 25, 2002 at 08:17:34:
Happygal - Thanks very much for your prompt reply - i am going to give everything you said a try - i sure hope that it works!! (please) - i'll let you know :)
In Reply to: Back and Neck Pain casuing headaches posted by Alli on November 25, 2002 at 06:02:51:
I got these nasty headaches last holiday season from tension. I was grinding my teeth a lot, so SR would definately help. Also, I find that if I don't exercise 3x's a week, stress, good or bad, really gets to my shoulders. Good luck!
In Reply to: Back and Neck Pain casuing headaches posted by Alli on November 25, 2002 at 06:02:51:
Hi, Alli.
Listen to Happygal and Jennifer.
The sad thing is that your "professionals" have not told you this long ago!
Let us know how you do now that you know what you can do to help yourself: bracing and SR archives.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Back and Neck Pain causing headaches (Archive in bracing.) posted by Walt Stoll on November 26, 2002 at 08:13:07:
Listen to Happygal and Jennifer.
The sad thing is that your "professionals" have not told you this long ago!
Let us know how you do now that you know what you can do to help yourself: bracing and SR archives.
Dr. Stoll, is it the goal of this board to continually put down EVERYONE in the medical world? Im new here and so many times Ive seen you just knock these peoples physicians...why? Their not all bad. There may be a few bad ones but believe me the GOOD ones outweigh the BAD ones by a VERY large percentage Im sure. We have no idea why your license to practice was revoked. Just because put on a website why it was revoked doesnt mean that its the truth, I myself think theirs more behind it. You state on here that you dont want any bashing. Seems to me YOU are the one bashing people in the medical field. Practice what you preach Doc.
In Reply to: Re: Back and Neck Pain causing headaches (Archive in bracing.) posted by Leslie on November 26, 2002 at 18:28:07:
Can you read and comprehend what you have read? Re-read the original post and you will better understand Dr. Stoll’s post. I’m not going to spell out the obvious for you. Besides, you need some practice with comprehension. (Under C in the dictionary.)
By the way, take some English classes. Your grammar and spelling is atrocious. (You may have to look that word up too. Good Luck!)
In Reply to: Re: Back and Neck Pain causing headaches (Archive in bracing.) posted by Leslie on November 26, 2002 at 18:28:07:
Hi Leslie,
Did you read Alli's story? It sounds like she has been suffering miserably with headaches for 8 years. Do you think Walt should praise the practitioners who took her money and didn't help her and allowed her to continue to suffer for 8 years?
Do you think that Walt should go along with and agree with those professionals that there is no help for her and he should also let her continue to suffer?
Fortunately, he knows that there is a way out, and he knows that something is not right about those professionals who are NOT helping people. He knows better than any of us -- he used to be one of them, but he figured out it wasn't right and then he couldn't misguide people any more.
Personally, I feel sad too that people put their trust in doctors -- it's a shame that a simple massage therapist like me can see what is wrong when the doctors can't.
When I was in massage school, one of our teachers, almost in whispers, told us about a patient who saw a doctor for back pain. X-rays were taken, surgery was done. Guess what? It didn't help the pain. Then the patient went for massage and the pain was resolved. Except, the patient had already spent thousands of dollars and endured lots of suffering (surgery is not fun) -- for what? Don't you think the doctor could have suggested that they try a massage before recommending surgery?
This type of story is a common thing. Personally, I'm glad that Walt's not whispering. But I don't think he's bashing people -- to say that it is sad, and to question their professionalism, sounds pretty accurate to me.
Think about it.
Best wishes,
Happygal
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