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Dear Dr. Stoll or others:
I wonder if you or anyone in the BB has had any experiences good or bad with Coral Calcium. Is it worth the extra price?
I searched the BB archives for coral calcium and was only able to find a couple of persons taking it. One with bad results (Donna) and another who was just starting to take it when she post the message.
My brother-in-law saw the TV infomercial and called me all excited about it. He said in the infomercial they claimed to help in almost all diseases.
Thank you, in advance.
Antonio
In Reply to: Coral Calcium posted by Antonio on December 01, 2002 at 17:03:41:
It is not worth the extra price. No studies have proven this form to be better than any other form. For now, it's best to go with what's proven. Citrate is a good form
-HY
In Reply to: Coral Calcium posted by Antonio on December 01, 2002 at 17:03:41:
To my understanding it's the equivalent of calcium carbonate and therefor rather ineffective. Like soy, an example of good promotion but not science.
In Reply to: Re: Coral Calcium posted by Helping You on December 01, 2002 at 18:32:32:
hi
i dont like supplements and i dont like accepting that they are good.
i have a friend who is thoughtful and well informed. he has been using it for a while. his research indicates that one advantage of it is that the matrix provides an appropriate level of complementary minerals and nutrients-- along the lines of eating your carbs in the fiber with minerals or along the lines of aBONE MEAL tablet, as Stoll suggests for its advantage over one singular mineral on its own.
now, my frined is too healthy to report any advantage.
however, his family is not. he gave it to his parents, without telling them about it. (Yeah, they have blind faith.) his mother reported being able to breathe better !!! and his father reported being able to sleep better !
now, i consider this insignificant, because it probably is in the grand scheme, but i have decided yesterday to look into this in a more disciplined way.
I will report back. Right now, I am doubtful BUT i recognize that Barefoot's claims and my anecdotal evidence parallel the specific action of calcium regulation in the blood ON A LARGE SCALE in chelation therapy. this is too much of a coincidence.
i have three good opportunities to evaluate any noticeable effects of the supplement. i will try to maximize them !
in general, i do like the idea of a mineral delivered in a natural matrix, rather than isolated. this is a key point in macrobiotics, which i am a living example of...powerful. as well, barefoot's claims are supported in some part by the macrobiotic tenet that our internal body is an ocean, responding well to whole foods and substances that come out of the actual ocean-- fish with bones, sea plants, etc...
i see some possibility for coincidental support from disparate appraoches. to me, that is always the best confimation of validity. we'll see.
o yeah, i have found it for $20 a botttle-- not off the hook!
In Reply to: Coral Calcium posted by Antonio on December 01, 2002 at 17:03:41:
Save your money. You can control your body chemistry with food if you use your head.
It's a sales scheme and may cotain heavy metals as well.
In Reply to: Coral Calcium posted by Antonio on December 01, 2002 at 17:03:41:
Every suppliment on an infomercial claims to
cure everything. I got turned off when they
said there were little critters in the coral,
probably dead polups.
One way to find out is for you and your BIL
to split a bottle and see if it does anything
In Reply to: Re: Coral Calcium- experience posted by leon cavallo on December 01, 2002 at 22:14:45:
Thanks for the info.
Regarding his family. I am glad that they got benefits from it, but since coral calcium was the only calcium given, we don't know if another calcium would have had the same benefical effect or not. My only point, is that coral calcium does not seem to be any more benefical than other types of calciums. I am sure that as more research is done comparing these types of calciums, we will have more of an idea how well it stacks up. Thanks :-)
-HY
In Reply to: Re: Coral Calcium- experience posted by Helping You on December 03, 2002 at 01:04:42:
still not ready to draw conclusions...
"mommy" was already taking calcium with magnesium and zinc -- part of her pattern of blind faith to the son's ideas. she kept taking it concurrently. she also eats generally well-- green leaves everyday with other vegetables, variously steamed, cooked, and raw. generally a good diet; not all whole though.
no conclusions yet, as i say, but my interest is aroused, because i have never heard anyone resport clearer breathing from calcium supplementation...but ofcourse it is one benefit of chelation therapy, which regarding calcium handling works in like way to barefoot's claims about the coral calcium. i just note the similar methods and wonder about what could be ACTUALLY similar or NOT-- just enough to encourage me to try to look into it.
his "daddy" does nothing for his well being.
In Reply to: Coral Calcium posted by Antonio on December 01, 2002 at 17:03:41:
Hi,
How weird I just happened to pop in here to take a look see and my name is mentioned. I haven't been around for a long time.
I was taking the Coral Calcium Supreme and it has other vitamins added to it. I was also on a weight loss diet (Scan Diet) at the time that is a soy and sugar based liquid diet product. (I was very new here and did not know what wellness was.) For the record, I am not sure what made me sick - the Coral Calcium or the Scan Diet or both or something else. I am not willing to take it again to find out because the symptoms were very scary and I don't feel I need it anyway.
I can tell you that I spoke to Bob Barefoot personally over the phone and through e-mail. He felt the symptoms that I had were due to a detoxifying effect. In his defense, I think he is very sincere and believes whole heartedly in what he is saying and selling. He is a very nice, caring person and so is his wife. After reading his books and some education of my own, I feel he has only a small part of the entire picture, but he is on the right track.
In Reply to: Coral Calcium posted by Antonio on December 01, 2002 at 17:03:41:
I took my first dose lastnight and did found it helped my acid-but woke up hurting real bad everywhere. It is naturesunshine brand and was told it was safe and pure. Now I am not sure whether to take it(little critters?)this is scarey. HY posted mag citrate is best.Doc Stoll says that is a laxative and not abosorbed. Now I am totally confused.
In Reply to: Re: Coral Calcium posted by Dee on December 04, 2002 at 10:34:52:
Dee,
Mag citrate IS absorbed just not as well as glycinate, orotate or aspartate----especially in those with even minimally compromised absorbing ability, like those with LGS.
Coral calcium is basically calcium carbonate with sea trace minerals. Unfortunately, although this is better than pure calcium carbonate, it is not the exact ratio needed to build bone and has none of the active enzymes required to put them together (like hydroxyapatite).
Walt
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