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Dr. Stoll:
I had an appointment with my Christian counselor, Donna. We discussed all the terrible things that Allopathic doctors are doing to cancer patients.
We discussed the destruction of the body by biopsies, mastectomies, chemo, radiation, Tamoxifen, breast implants and tissue flap
reconstructions.
Donna and I talked about how human beings are more than flesh, we have a mind and spirit/soul.
Allopathic doctors do not recognize patients as a whole being. They see only body parts.
They focus on disease, rather than wellness. They defile our bodies with knives and drugs that do not heal.
The New Testament says that our soul is worth more than the whole world: "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" (Matthew 16:26).
Allopathic doctors are focused on the flesh, while ignoring our souls.
They continue to defile women's bodies with mutilating biopsies, mastectomies, reconstructions and augmentations.
They not only defile women, but men, too. They perform surgeries for prostate cancer that leave men disabled. They surgically alter men with
silicone chest and penile implants.
In 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Paul says: "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."
I refuse to go to an Allopathic doctor, instead I will go to a Naturopath, Homeopath or CAM (Complementary & Alternative Medicine) doctor.
At least they recognize our whole selves, that we are more than fleshly parts.
For those who are suffering now from the terrible things that the Allopathic doctors have done, let me remind you that these bodies aren't
meant to last a life time.
What is most important is to focus on our heavenly temple which is not made of flesh.
The apostle Paul writes to the Corinthians "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a
moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed." (1 Corinthians 15:51-52), and he concludes:
"For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."
(1 Corinthians 15: 53-54).
This is the message from Donna to me and to believers who are suffering.
Blessings,
Pam
In Reply to: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body posted by Pam on October 01, 2002 at 18:30:52:
Perhaps you are perturbed about how they've treated you. Certainly this is a case of sour grapes. I'm sure all of us here have only the highest regard for doctors, especially allopathic doctors.
In Reply to: Re: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body --They Do? R U Sure? posted by Obviousman to the rescue on October 01, 2002 at 22:03:00:
What do you propose a person with cancer should do? Just leave it?????
In Reply to: Re: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body --They Do? R U Sure? posted by Obviousman to the rescue on October 01, 2002 at 22:03:00:
Hi, Obviousman.
Allopathic physicians used to be at the top of the list of professions revered by the public, Now they are pretty far down. What do you think caused that drop?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body --They Do? R U Sure? posted by Barbara on October 02, 2002 at 08:30:36:
Barbara,
Where have you been? Even the government now admits that there are many other options than the allopathic one, that has failed so miserably, for cancer. Read Dr. James Gordon's book (cancer archives) for the current governmental position.
Let us know what you learn. Allopathy is no longer the "only game in town".
Walt
In Reply to: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body posted by Pam on October 01, 2002 at 18:30:52:
Amen, Pam.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body --They Do? R U Sure? posted by Barbara on October 02, 2002 at 08:30:36:
Barbara:
There are many things that people can do who are diagnosed with cancer.
They can stop taking in sugar which feeds cancer cells; they can alkaline their bodies; women can balance hormones with natural transdermal hormones; they can eat a raw-foods diet which adds enzymes & nutrients that the body needs; they can eat raspberries for ellagic acid; they can balance Omega 3:6 Fatty Oils; they can use Doug Kaufmann's Phase I Diet to get rid of fungus; they can take diflucan and olive leaf extract; they can read the Ralph Moss Reports and visit Shirley's Wellness Cafe; they can pray...
The National Center for CAM Medicine has information about cancer treatments:
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/bydisease.htm
Cancer Treatment and Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) Q & A
Antineoplastons Studies
Cancell/Entelev Q & A
Cancell/Entelev Treatment Summary
Cartilage (Bovine and Shark)
Coenzyme Q10 Q & A
Coenzyme Q10 Treatment Summary
Gerson Therapy
Gonzalez Protocol Q & A
Hydrazine Sulfate Studies
Hydrazine Sulfate Treatment Summary
Immuno-augmentative Therapy
Laetrile/Amygdalin Q & A
Laetrile/Amygdalin Treatment Summary
Mistletoe/Iscador
714-X
In Reply to: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body --They Do? R U Sure? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 02, 2002 at 09:06:13:
Apparently under a rock...
I am aware that allopathic medicine isn't the only game in town. With SO many options how do you know which one is best???? It seems everyone is making the hard sell.
I had no idea there were alternatives to cutting out a malignant growth.
Since I have been plagued by lipomas (6 all together) I would love to find an alternative to "wacking" them off yearly.
I will read the recommended reading and get back to y'all.
Peace
Barbara
In Reply to: Re: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body --They Do? R U Sure? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Barbara on October 02, 2002 at 14:27:57:
Barbara:
Dr. Stoll's archives show that
Lipomas (Multiple and Recurrent)
Address:
http://askwaltstollmd.com/archives/lipoma/62564.html
Posted by mike on March 22, 2001 at 17:01:17:
5 years ago I had one lipoma, my gp , cut it out and said its a lipoma or fatty lump, I am now riddled with them, 1000s , they hurt with every movement I make, I cant stand the pain, I have tried every thing I can, loads of creams, pills, hot baths,give a little relief for only 5 mins, I cant stand to feel any one even touch me im that sore.
please,please,please, if you know of any thing that I can take or do, please email me , or post up a suggestion.
thank you mike in uk.
Posted by Walt Stoll on March 24, 2001 at 11:57:49:
In Reply to: I have lipomas every where please help with pain posted by mike on March 22, 2001 at 17:01:17:
Hi, Mike.
I have only had one patient with what you have. Within 3 months, of taking the essential fatty acids detailed on the home page, he had no more pain ind within a year they were disappearing.
Let us know how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Allopathic Doctors Defile The Body posted by Pam on October 01, 2002 at 18:30:52:
Many find it offensive and it has no place on a non-denominational health board.
Share it your counsellor, where it belongs and let those of us who are not christians or not "belivers"
surf the information without harrrassment.
Alternatively, consider that your problem(s) with your breasts is God's way of punishing you.
In Reply to: Why don't you keep the religion out of the equation ? posted by Bored on October 02, 2002 at 23:09:00:
Religion has everything to do with healing. Holistic medicine deals with the mind, body & spirit.
This is Dr. Stoll's BB, not yours. His practice has dealt with CAM medicine. That is why he lost his license.
This is not an allopathic BB that deals only with the flesh. If you want an Allopathic BB, go some where else.
In Reply to: Re: Why don't you keep the religion out of the equation ? posted by Pam on October 03, 2002 at 00:44:15:
and in that world the only thing that matters is your obsession with TRAM flaps, breast mutilations, and Walt's approval. Last I checked this wasn't your bulletin board either.
You need to lay off the religion. It has very little to do with healing and everything to do
with you ramming it down people's throats. If it is so great then people will be drawn to
it. I'm guessing people, even if they aren't a fanatical "believer" like yourself or even a complete atheist can still practice wellness and
get results.
This has nothing to do with allopathic vs. alternative, so stop confusing the issue. Alternative is not inextricably linked to religion and especially not christianity.
That's *YOUR* need talking.
I bet if you didn't post as much, you might actually get that book that Walt recommended you write, finished.
Praise the lord.
In Reply to: Re: Why don't you keep the religion out of the equation ? posted by Pam on October 03, 2002 at 00:44:15:
Hi, Pam.
There is a world of difference between "religion" and "spirituality".
I like Gandhi's quote: "There is no religion in heaven. Thank God."
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Why don't you keep the religion out of the equation ? posted by Walt Stoll on October 03, 2002 at 11:04:32:
Dr. Stoll:
There is a world of difference between proselytizing and quoting famous men of history who spoke about healing.
I'm not going to be gagged, just because someone doesn't like the word "Jesus."
Is is only Okay to speak of every other spiritual or religious person of history, except Jesus?
Prayer and belief has a lot to do with healing.
I believe I know the difference between religion as a socializing institution and spirituality as a transforming experience that exists outside of the human conception of time.
Thank You,
Pam
In Reply to: Re: Why don't you keep the religion out of the equation ? posted by Pam on October 03, 2002 at 11:36:04:
You don't seem to be able to stop proselytizing any more than you seem to be able to post about anything other than how much you've been hurt by breast surgery and the evils of allopathic doctors.
Well boo hoo, but sooner or later you will have to acknowledge your part in the drama that is your life. From reading your posts it seems like everyone *except* you is to blame for what happened to you. You talk a good game but your victim mentality is still quite evident especially the heavy dependence on religion.
As a matter of fact, it reminds me of "Born Again" Christians. Usually they are heavily invested in religion because they phucked up so badly, that they only way they can keep their psyche intact is to offload the responsibility for making decision to a "higher power," and to attribute to that higher power the things that happen to them.
At every turn they are proselytizing, convinced that all problems can be solved if you simply believe.
True spirituality has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with facing your problems head-on and dealing with them. Religion is for the weak-minded -a psyche that needs crutches to survive.
Spirituality is for those of whom will use all of their god-given abilities to overcome their problems.
In Reply to: Since you know the difference, how about you stop proselytizing posted by Bored on October 03, 2002 at 12:26:55:
I think you should back off a little. Pam has never disregarded anyone's opinion or post and then stuck in religion and a belief in dogmas as a better way to go like some of the Christians that have posted here. She is simply posting about different ways of looking at the body, mind, spirit relationship using different spiritual texts.
Some people's road to spirituality is travelled by following a certain religion at some point in their life. At some point in time, some people may take following a religion way too far and think that the dogmas set forth by that religion are the only way to think, believe, react, etc. I don't like people who become extremely righteous either, but Pam is not doing that at all.
About her constantly posting, there are new people to this board all the time. Whether you like it or not, things are going to be repeated here time and again. I was new too and Dr. Stoll and many other long standing board members kindly replied to me about the archives and wellness and I went there and have learned so much. I too have asked questions that have already been asked and thankfully have been answered. I like having the information repeated, it just solidifies it in my mind and sometimes spurs me on to further research in an area that I overlooked before. I think Dr. Stoll can repeatedly answer the same questions and post the same information over and over because he rejoices in people's growth and healing. He is a true lightwalker.
Bottom line is if you were a little more spiritually enlightened yourself, you would be more tolerant of the people who are not on the same kind of path you are on or who do not think like you do. Religion can be used by the weak minded, but not all people who are following a certain religion are weak minded. They are just on another level and another road than you are. And besides, weak mindedness is just another term for someone who has not been woken up by a need to seek out further spiritual development (or other development) on their own accord and need someone else to tell them what to think and believe. They will eventually move on from this state of mind, especially by teachings from people like Dr. Stoll who if they don't get it the first time, at least a seed is sown.
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