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Dr. Stoll:
I was in the hospital for 5 days, this month, to have fluid drained from the sack surrounding my left lung.
The oncologist tells me that there were cancer cells floating around in the 2800 cc of fluid drained from my lung.
I went back for a follow-up x-ray and the lung specialist says that the sack is filling up again.
The oncologist says there is no spot to radiate, but the cancer cells are making the fluid.
I haven't heard of cancer cells making so much fluid...
Since the doctor's office is out of town, I haven't had a chance to read my medical reports, but I am wondering where all this fluid is coming from and what I can do to stop it?
The lung specialist says there is nothing I can do. That sounds stupid. I'm just suppose to sit around and have the lung sack fill up again??!
Have you heard of this medical problem and is there a way to control this fluid?
Thank You,
Pam
In Reply to: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 30, 2003 at 23:02:21:
Thanks for asking that Pam. My mother in law is experiencing exactly the same scenario (but she hasn't had the fluid removed) and I would love to hear Walt or someone explain the mechanism behind it...
In Reply to: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 30, 2003 at 23:02:21:
Hi, Pam.
This is a really bad sign.
They can put chemotherapy in the pleural space so as to directly contact the cancer cells causing the fluid. This can be done with high doses since the chemo is then very slowly absorbed into the rest of your body. They can even put the chemo in the space and remove it in a day of so.
Let us know how you do.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Question About Lung Fluid posted by thessa on January 31, 2003 at 08:53:42:
thessa:
I just got back from the oncologist. I was in so much pain, i had to go get some medication.
I asked the oncologist about the fluid. She said that the cancer is just spreading from the original site and making fluid. It just happens to be in the area of my lungs.
She gave me Arimidex to suppress estrogen production. She said next month she could give me a bone strenthener with an IV, because it looks like the cancer cells are hanging around in my lower ribs, spine and right leg.
I had so much pain in my underarm where the doctors dissected my lymph nodes and radiated me...the doctor says there is a lot of nerve damage. I have a frozen shoulder and lymphedema.
The nerve damage can only be from all the surgery done to be by the plastic surgeons and oncologists.
Cancer is such a nasty disease. I just wish we could have an open market where alternatives could compete with the allopathic monopoly.
IF i could use my insurance for alternatives, I would get acupuncture and Noni Juice for the pain and seek an alternative doctor.
I listened to Dan Haley talk on T.V. about his book, the Politics of Healing. He said that there were people who had non-toxic cancer therapies, but they were persecuted.
I hope some day, people will not think that chemotherapy, radiation, drugs and surgery are the only ways to treat cancer.
I would never have chemo, again. I hate it. It is so toxic and really knocks the heck out of a person. It's like drinking a can of Drano.
I believe there are non-toxic chemos, but you know that the FDA & AMA will run out any non-toxic therapies.
I hope this helps.
Pam
In Reply to: Re: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 31, 2003 at 13:55:39:
Pam,
I am so sorry to hear of your health problems. Please know that there are non-toxic "drugs" that balance cancer cells in the body and heal other problems, too. Those "drugs" are foods. If I were you, I would contact a center that has experience with using food in this way. The one where I live is called the "Optimum Health Institute". If you would like their number for information or to find a center like that in your area write another post and I will get the phone number to you. At least contact an experienced nutritionist and accupuncturist to use in conjuction with the protocol you oncologist suggests. My mom died of cancer two years ago and I understand the frustration with western medecine.
In Reply to: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 30, 2003 at 23:02:21:
Hi Pam,
I'm so sorry to hear this news. Have you heard about the American Cancer Society-I don't mean the one that is allopathic/traditional/Western medicine. Not sure if I have the right name. They are located in Menlo Park, CA and they publish a lot of cancer stuff written by survivors of various forms of cancer. These people have cured themselves of cancer and I don't mean via Western medicine.
My girlfriend was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer nearly a year ago. She had surgery and then chemo. The hospital charged her $15,000 for 3 chemo treatments within a 30 day period. (Obscene isn't it? She does not have adequate insurance either.) The doctor said the chemo didn't work and he wanted her to go to USC for experimental chemo. She said she just felt it was the wrong thing to do and didn't follow through. She also learned that there's not a doctor in this country who can advise her because they risk losing their license to practice medicine.
Meanwhile, she started taking supplements, juicing every day, and reading as much as she could on getting well naturally. She said she feels completely well and thinks it's strange to feel so well and still have cancer. I suspect she no longer has the cancer. When she had the surgery, they found cancer in her liver and one other place.
I think you can beat this, Pam! Hang in there. You may already be doing this, but just in case you're not, I would urge you to use every tool you can think of. Visualization, too. There's an oncologist by the name of Carl O. Simonton who wrote a book called Getting Well Again. It's about visualizing the white blood cells gobbling up the cancer cells. The immune system is a miraculous thing.
Prayer is a powerful tool. I firmly believe that when more than one gathers to pray for another, miracles happen. I'm not a religious person but I do believe in that. Anyone else want to join in prayer with me for Pam's complete and total healing?
With Love,
Mary
In Reply to: Re: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 31, 2003 at 13:55:39:
Pam, I'm thinking of you in these days.
My mother in law also has nerve damage from her treatment (chemo, radiation, surgery) and cannot move her right arm from the shoulder down. I can appreciate what you are going through. She is now on morphine patches. Her health continues to deteriorate slowly, lung and digestive function most profoundly. She is interested in alternative therapies as much as can give her immediate relief, but beyond that, I don't think she's looking to "heal". Her transition time is near and so we are helping her to prepare spiritually.
She has done some intense alternative therapies in the past though. I guess according to the statistics she's doing well. First sign of advanced breast cancer in 1991. She is still somewhat active around the house and manages a few walks a week.
Have you gone through any alternative therapies like juice fasting, tissue cleansing etc? I know your story but I can't remember what kind of non-traditional therapies you've done!
In Reply to: Re: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Mary on February 03, 2003 at 01:18:25:
Pam, I love what you contribute to the board. You offer such excellent advice and speak so candidly to others about what you've gone through. Your time and input are really appreciated.
I think you can beat this, too. Prove them wrong!
Lots of hugs,
Martha
In Reply to: I'll join in praying for Pam! posted by Martha on February 03, 2003 at 21:02:35:
Thanks, Martha.
Me too!
Simonton's work proves the mechanism by which imagry during prayer reaches the maker.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 30, 2003 at 23:02:21:
I am so sorry to hear of this, Pam.
Seems life is so unpredictable, and there are never any guarantees as to what is around the corner for any of us.
I think its true the saying. "What doesnt kill us, makes us stronger". And you my friend, are one hell of a strong woman to have made it through the life experiences you have had. I truly admire you, Pam. I dont think I am half as strong as you are.
I had an awful call last night from a customer, whose daughter had died the day before. Her daughter was just 42 years old, and died of a seizure in her sleep, leaving behind 4 children and a husband. I talked her through it (she is in shock still, feels unreal for her), even though we were extremely busy, and somehow was able to find the words to make her feel somewhat better temporarily, and even got a chuckle out of her. Talking to her, it would made me realize how we should appreciate those in our life, and treat them well, because we just dont know when their time or our time will be up.
So stay strong, Pam, and know that there are people here who do care and will be praying for you.
Take care
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Question About Lung Fluid posted by Pam on January 30, 2003 at 23:02:21:
Hi Pam,
We all know what a strong woman you are and that you can face this with courage. My prayers are with you, too.
Namaste`
Happygal
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