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Friends,
This only concentrates upon death rates and should also concentrate on quality of life differences between treated and untreated people.
Walt
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Misty L. Trepke
http://www.searching-alternatives.com
Untreated Cancer patients live 4 times longer- Study
MEDICAL STUDY SHOWS: UNTREATED PATIENTS LIVE 4 TIMES LONGER
than those who got conventional cancer therapy Excerpts below quote
a speech by Dr. Hardin Jones, a prominent cancer researcher and
former professor at the Donner Lab of Medical Physics at the
University of California (at both Berkeley and Davis.)
Dr. Hardin Jones published these statistics in his article tin
Transactions, New York Academy of Science, series 2, v. 18, n.3,
p.322. Write us for others who collected their own cancer survival
statistics, and who accuse official studies of being "doctored" or
skewed by drug sponsors, to show some benefits for chemotherapy.
"My studies have proved conclusively that cancer patients who refuse
chemotherapy and radiation actually live up to FOUR TIMES LONGER
THAN TREATED CASES."
Dr. Jones, formerly a physiologist with the University of California
Department of Medical Physics, has been studying cancer for more
than 23 years. He has traveled the world collecting data on the
dreaded disease and presented his findings to the American Cancer
Society and medical schools.
"Beyond a shadow of a doubt, radical surgery on cancer does more
harm than good. "As for radiation treatment -- most of the time it
makes not the slightest difference whether the machine is turned on
or not."
Dr. Jones noted that "unfortunately, it seems to be only a question
of time, usually, before the disease pops up again all over the
body."
"Every cancer patient who keeps in excellent physical shape may have
many good years left. The alternative is to squander those years as
an invalid through radical medical intervention, which has zero
chance of extending life."
Dr. Jones continued, "It's utter nonsense to claim that catching
cancer symptoms early enough will increase the patient's chances of
survival."
"Furthermore, untreated breast cancer cases show a life expectancy
four times longer than treated ones. ~ "My wife and I have discussed
what she would do if breast cancer was diagnosed in her," Dr. Jones
continued. "And we both agreed that she would do nothing as regards
to treatment, except to keep as healthy as possible. I guarantee she
would live longer!"
http://www.brwwellness.com/ten.htm
In Reply to: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 08, 2003 at 06:03:27:
Hi Doc,
I am a long time follower. I have read your book and you have answered numerous questions for me regarding my digestion. I must admit that although I truly value your opinion, I still couldn't make sense of not addressing the parasite or infection first.
Last week we were on vaction and there happened to be a lagoon just outside our condo. One morning as my husband and I stood watching the hundreds of turtles that inhabited the murky water, I ask my husband how does this happen? Why do these turtles just know there is a hole full of water here and start living in it? My husband replied because they can.
It was at that momment I understood what you are saying.
An epiphany.
Since then I have become hyper aware of this in other ways. I cut a piece of fruit, no fruit flies in the house. Ten minutes later fruit flies.
Many thanks,
Dahlimama
In Reply to: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 08, 2003 at 06:03:27:
Thank you Dr Stoll!
In Reply to: Re: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Dahlimama on August 08, 2003 at 08:38:32:
Since then I have become hyper aware of this in other ways. I cut a piece of fruit, no fruit flies in the house. Ten minutes later fruit flies.
Now, that just about sums it up, doesn't it?! Geesh, that made me think!
In Reply to: Re: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Dahlimama on August 08, 2003 at 08:38:32:
Makes me think of the 100th Monkey... you just "know".....
In Reply to: Re: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Dahlimama on August 08, 2003 at 08:38:32:
could be that the turtles can Smell the water or get some
other clue or just stumble across it by accident but how
do salmon return to the same stream they were born in
after years of being out to see or turtles return to the
beaches they were born on to lay their eggs ?
As for a bunch of turtles, Many were probably born there.
In Reply to: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 08, 2003 at 06:03:27:
This is interesting and what I have come to believe. Was
talking to a woman today and she said, from her experience
seeing others who got treatements that she would just take
pain meds when needed and go when she goes.
I have been debating for a yr what to do about a breast
tumor that my female hound has. I took her to a vet last
yr and because of a discharge he said she had an infection
and gave me ABiotics for it though I took her in to have
it removed. i was told to measure it and see if it grew. It
didn't for a good while and now is growing fast. I am still
torn after all I read but did want to have the tumor removed
and not have any other treatment done but I am worried
about that since I have read that cancer cells can spread
unless extreme measures are taken to avoid that.
The hound is 12 and has been Work and a pain all her life
especially with my limitations but the bitch is Finally
learning and listening so if it didn't make things easy I
could get mad but then I always say that If I solved their
problems before they dies then I would be happy that they
(or I) had some good time.
The breed usually lives to 14-15 so she has lived fairly
long for her type and it would be depressing if she didn't
live that long after the operation or really so if she
didn't make it through it.
In Reply to: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 08, 2003 at 06:03:27:
Walt, I am always skeptical and looked up Dr Jones and
read that he died in 78' and just wondering if things are
the same? Probably are but it makes me question.
In Reply to: Re: Cancer treatment bogus? (Archive in cancer.) posted by Vince F on August 09, 2003 at 17:56:22:
Hi, Vince.
Probably assassinated by the ACS :o).
As I began to doubt what I had been taught by the PTB, I found that much of the information just now coming to light haa been known for a number of years. A basic rule is that it takes about a generation for radical discoveries to be accepted by any profession.
Walt
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