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cause of canker sores

Posted by
Kevin on August 06, 1999 at 00:35:30:

Dr. Stoll;

I am just wondering what exactly is the cause of canker sores and are they contagious?

My wife and I both are both suffering with cankers and it made us curious about them being contagious.

Kevin




Re: cause of canker sores

Posted by Joel on August 06, 1999 at 22:03:31:

In Reply to: cause of canker sores posted by Kevin on August 06, 1999 at 00:35:30:

Kevin,

I began to develop canker sores with no apparent correlation to food or health. When they became sufficiently frequent to really aggravate me, I did some internet research and discovered that Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS), an ingredient in nearly all toothpastes, has been shown to cause canker sores in "a large percentage of people". So I started brushing my teeth with baking soda until I found some "Rembrandt Canker Sore Prevention" toothpaste. I've been using that since mid December 1998, and haven't had a single canker sore since, even when I've accidentally bit or cut the inside of my mouth. They stopped rather abruptly once I eliminated the SLS, and the ones I had at that time healed with surprising speed. Rembrandt is expensive, and there are surely "natural" toothpastes without SLS. One's toothpaste budget is unlikely to get very far out of hand in any event.

There's one data point for you. If SLS is what causes them, then they aren't contagious. Of course, there may be other causes in different folks. But eliminating SLS is a very easy, inexpensive test. Good luck.

Joel



Re: cause of canker sores

Posted by
trish on August 07, 1999 at 00:15:04:

In Reply to: cause of canker sores posted by Kevin on August 06, 1999 at 00:35:30:

Hi Kevin,

I copied this from the glossary, it's under "contagion":

Picture this: There are germs, fungi, and viruses everywhere, all the time. They are all
over us and all around us. Why don't we all have infections all the time? Because our
skin (mechanically) protects us from all the nasties out there, right? But, if we fall down
and skin our knee, there's an opening in that barrier. This makes it easier for one of the
nasty germs to grow there. Sometimes we will get an infection. With other "infectious"
diseases, it's our immune system that (chemically/biologically) protects us from all the
nasties out there. If we are run down, stressed, unhealthy or somehow immunologically
compromised, it's like leaving an opening for germs and diseases to come in. We get
sick due to something that is always present. There's two sides to the story. One is the
"bugs" out there (they're everywhere); the other is the "barrier" we have to protect us
(our skin and our immune system). IF our barrier is not working right or is somehow
broken, then the bugs get out of control and harm us.

SO, are canker sores contagious? Yes and no. If your immune systems aren't working too well then you'll "catch" them when you're exposed. If you're healthy, you might be exposed but still not get them.

Hope this helps!
trish



What has helped mine disappear

Posted by
Sara W on August 07, 1999 at 18:49:24:

In Reply to: cause of canker sores posted by Kevin on August 06, 1999 at 00:35:30:

Hi Kevin,

I have had trouble with canker sores for years and years. I have been married for almost 25 years and my husband has never had them. But I do know that the virus that supposedly causes them affects some people and not others, which leads us to believe some people have a stronger defense against this particular virus.

It was my ongoing problem with canker sores that drew me to checking into the Elimination Diet you read about so much on this BB. After going through that I discovered that my body needed much more meat/purines than I was eating.

I began changing my diet, even though I had been taught that meat would cause my system to be more acidic (which I thought made my mouth break out). It was a big step of faith in what Bob and others have found out to be true that I began eating more meat. I have found that I no longer have trouble with canker sores as long as I am giving my body the food that it thrives upon.

I am not saying you need more meat, but you should think about the elimination diet. It helps paint a clearer picture of how our bodies function.

Good luck! Hope to hear how you are doing.

Sara W



Re: cause of canker sores

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 08, 1999 at 14:20:15:

In Reply to: cause of canker sores posted by Kevin on August 06, 1999 at 00:35:30:

Hi, Kevin.

Listen to Sara, trish and Joel.

Walt



Re: cause of canker sores

Posted by Bep on August 09, 1999 at 08:24:25:

In Reply to: Re: cause of canker sores posted by Walt Stoll on August 08, 1999 at 14:20:15:

I went to lots of docs for years and used rinses, topicals,
even was advised to smoke a pipe for a week (!). Finally
a osteopath recommended avioding all chemical additives
in food and sodas - presto - one week later cured. The
canker sores only return when I weaken and down some chips
and a cola.



Re: cause of canker sores Archive (Nugget?)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 11, 1999 at 16:55:14:

In Reply to: Re: cause of canker sores posted by Bep on August 09, 1999 at 08:24:25:

Thanks, Bep.


Certainly environmental chemicals are causes of this problem. The reason I focus on raising immune reserves is that that way the person's exposure to life continually expands whereas just focusing on eliminating triggers continually narrows their exposure to life.

Walt



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