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Hello Dr Stoll,
I recently experienced atrial fillibration for the first time on June 22, 1999. I am 39 years of age, and have experienced very occasional fluttering/racing heart for a few seconds at a time in the past, over a couple years period of time, and it always "corrected" itself. This time, it didn't. I'd just finished eating at McDonald's with a meal of chicken nuggets, chicken sandwich, fries, and
diet coke. Just after the meal, my heart started beating very rapidly (200+ beats/min), and irregularly. A half hour later, I was on the way to the emergency room. After four hours, my heart finally went back to regular beat due to medicines. I also had blood work done, and they told
me everything tested fine, had xrays taken, and I was released shortly after the meds restored my heart beat. Anyway, it was a disturbing and a scary experience.
I went to my primary care physician for a checkup today. My heart rate (with lanoxin) is at 61 - 69 beats a minute, and blood pressure was 120/84. I am currently using lanoxin, and aspirin. It will be three weeks before I get the chance see the cardiologist over here.
Currently, I've cut out the caffiene entirely. I used to drink a six pack a day (give or take) of diet coke or pepsi.
I am also eating whole foods, lots of juice, and light walking. I don't smoke, use drugs, and consume very little alcohol.
Anyway, with a cardiologist appt several weeks away, I started searching the web for more information, and came upon your page. I would like your opinion on a "cure or best treatment" for my type of atrial fibrillation. I.e. Catheter ablation, magnesium, maze treatment, other meds, etc. Many thanks in advance!
Regards,
Trey K.
In Reply to: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias posted by Trey K on June 25, 1999 at 02:28:17:
Hi, Trey.
BOY! Your former diet was really testing fate wasn't it? What you mentioned has practically no magnesium in it (having been refined away). IF magnesium deficiency is contributing to your arrhythmia, it is likely low enough that you will be hard put to absorb enough orally to resolve it.
Your whole foods diet will eventually help this but that might take years. Think how many years you have been eating low magnesium and high phosphorus meals. They used to call soft drinks phosphates------can you imagine why?
Anyhow, were I you, I would first spend enough time on the link below to know what to do about the magnesium. This cannot possibly harm you and, in MY experience, nearly always resolves dysrrhythmias quickly (since 75% of all Americans have deficient intracellular magnesium). The only ones it does not are those caused by trauma to the heart, from coronaries usually. Even those it makes it easier to treat them conventionally.
The second most common contributing factor is storage of fight or flight readiness in the hypothalamus (also discussed for years right here on this BB).
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias (causes people can help themselves) posted by Walt Stoll on June 26, 1999 at 13:34:46:
Walt:
I read the original post and then your reply. I went to the Magnesium archive using your link and pretended I knew little/nothing about magnesium, much less about leaky gut reducing its absorbtion, much less about non-whole foods removing it from food, etc. etc. Actually it was not tough to pretend, since I really know so little about all this, despite months reading and participating in this wonderful discussion board.
There in the archive I.... well I didn't know exactly what to do except to first look at the linked posts to see if any related to my current "problem". Well, they mostly seemed to talk about magnesium supplementation, like perhaps people need to supplement, but who, why, whatever?
Then I looked at just one of the monthly archives and was feeling really lost. Seemingly good stuff, but what to do with it?
The point of all this is that it pointed out to me how despirately we could use (I hesitate to say NEED) a Magnesium Central. A place with just a few sentences about magnesium, what it does in the body, how we get deficient, how LGS contributes to the deficiency, how many people need shots (of what and how much), and which and how much to supplement. And, of course, links. The effort to go thru the archive and to distill it down into just these few paragraphs with links to the other archives and articles would be substantial!
The Glossary is a tiny step in that direction. But even if I (or someone) could somehow put together some number of nugget sentences on each major topic, the Glossary would be HUGE. Thus my earlier thought of Magnesium Central, LGS Central, etc. etc. as individual web pages (instead of huge Glossary entries). I guess these would be a LOT like the articles you have written long ago. I know that a lot of effort went into them and the liklihood of getting lots of brand new articles written and implemented is infintesimal.
So I guess I'm spouting off in areas way beyond my time & expertise limits. As always, this is food for thought.
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias (causes people can help themselves) posted by Walt Stoll on June 26, 1999 at 13:34:46:
Dear Dr. Stoll,
My husband Trey recently left you a message on your BB.
We really appreciate your response, and yes, we will continue to study your archives on low magnesium levels.
My question is where do we begin to get his body to start to accept magnesium and to get him back to normal? We've read about the I.V. magnesium, Noah's water, and magnesium supplements. Still confused as to what's the best course of action.
I'm familiar with whole foods, and also juicing to get vitamins, minerals, and nutrients.
I think maybe my question is, Should I just go out and buy the supplements, water, etc along with the proper diet or is there somewhere you actually begin for maximum absorption?
Again, thank you for your response it's much more than we are getting from his doctor. No, he has not been to the cardiologist yet, but then that's managed care for you, you'd have to be half dead to see a specialist right away! He has an appointment on the 9th of July, for a ecocardiogram and then a cardiologist visit on the 13th following the test.
Thank you, RocketHealer Jim++ for your contribution :)
Regards,
Maria
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias - Need for Magnesium Central! :-) posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on June 26, 1999 at 14:05:06:
As the wonderful commedian Gilda Radner used to say, "Never Mind!"
The Glossary is the current limit of my Engulf and Devour Health/Wellness Empire. Others may do whatever they wish.
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias - Need for Magnesium Central! :-) posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on June 26, 1999 at 14:05:06:
As usual, RHJ, you put your finger on exactly what needs to be done!
Is the atrial fibrillation archive, in your opinion, just as unhelpful about magnesium & AF? Perhaps I just sent this person to the wrong archive for him.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias (causes people can help themselves) posted by Maria on June 26, 1999 at 15:39:16:
Hi, Maria.
RHJ suggested that I may have referred you to not the most helpful archive. Have you seen the atrial fibrillation archive (link below).
If it were me, I would use the (800) 532-3688 number in the archives and find the closest doc who might be knowledgable about a loading IV dose of magnesium (at least 2 grams IV at least 3 times a week for a couple of weeks). In the meantime, I would start a good conbination intestinal absorbtion enzyme along with the easiest to absorb form of magnesium (glycinate, orotate or aspartate) at least 2 grams twice a day. It is pretty hard to take too much.
If the arrythmia is not gone by a few weeks, this is not going to help much. It cannot hurt.
Let us know what happens.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias & Magnesium (archive in both AF & MG) Protocol for magnesium replacement. posted by Walt Stoll on June 27, 1999 at 10:40:31:
Hello Dr Stoll,
Thanks so much for your feedback. My wife and I went to Nature's healthstore yesterday, and purchased some items for my AF. I am still on Lanoxin, and aspirin. I have not had a reoccurence of AF since last Monday. Anyway, the clerk at Nature's recommended I get the Nature's Secret "Ultimate Cleanse" dietary supplement which has multi-herb and multi-fiber for use as complete internal cleanser. They recommended the internal cleanser to "clean" out my system so I could absorb magnesium better. I also was recommended Soft Gelatin Multiple vitamins. I asked for some magnesium aspartate. I got magnesium caps by Twinlabs which has Magnesium (from magnesium oxide and magnesium aspartate) 400mg.
Their recommendation was I take the cleanser as indicated by instructions, and the soft gel vitamins daily. After 15 days, to take the magnesium since my system will be prepared to absorb the magnesium. I took one magnesium today anyway, figuring it wouldn't hurt to try.
I will make a call tomorrow on the IV magnesium as you recommended. I see your comment - "good combination intestinal absorbtion enzyme along with the easiest to absorb form of magnesium" I hope the magnesium caps will suffice, and I'm not sure what to get for "good combination intestinal absorbtion enzyme". Please let me know what you recommend based on what I have here. Many thanks in advance!
Trey
In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias & Magnesium (archive in both AF & MG) Protocol for magnesium replacement. posted by Trey K on June 27, 1999 at 16:27:36:
Hi, Trey.
In MY opinion the Magnesium oxide is worthless since it is almost impossible for ANYONE to absorb. It seems some companies use it to reduce the price since it is incredibly cheap. How much aspartate is there in that 400 milligrams?
You probably need a good naturopath or nutritionally oriented Chiropractor to determine the best enzymes for you to take since this is very individual.
The "intestinal cleanser" is probably not a bad idea for all of us to consider once in a while. I am not sure it promotes better absorbtion of the magnesium but stand ready to be educated.
Finally, it seems I forgot to put in the link I promised you last time. See below (I hope).
Walt
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