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Hi All,
I have been away from the board for quite a while. I have posted many times in the past regarding my pvc's. They started when I was 6 weeks pregnant with my third child who just turned 14 months. Since that time, I have not had one day without them. I have tried everything, seen tons of doctors, spent tons of money, and no one can tell me anything. They say they're harmless, but these occur all day every day. It is not just one or two a day. There have been many times in the past year and a half that I have thought I was rid of them. But they always come back.
I don't even know why I'm posting this, because I don't think there even is an answer for me. I am at the point that I feel death is better than living the rest of my life like this. But I have my kids I have to take care of, and I don't want to leave them motherless. But if it wasn't for them.....
I feel that my life is a cruel joke. Most days I feel that I am living a hell on earth. Everything that I try either makes them worse or does nothing. Sometimes I will think I am on the right track and then they come right back with a vengance.
This has changed my life in ways I cannot even verbalize. It has ruined so many good things I can't even count them. I can't enjoy my daughter dancing, my son singing, or anything, when I'm thinking about how my heart is not beating right and the next pvc may be the last one and my heart will just stop.
My daughter's dance recital is this weekend, and I am having such a bad day that I can't even look forward to that anymore. All of the joy has been sucked out of my life. When you think that every minute may be your last, or you're trying to imagine how your daughter is going to handle it when she wakes up in the morning and finds you dead in bed, it is hard to enjoy your blessings.
Again, I don't even know why I'm posting, except that I have nowhere else to turn. I guess I'm still hoping in vain that an answer will be sent to me from some source. Because life can't be this painful forever.
Thank you to anyone who reads this long post.
God Bless you all
Renee
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Hi Renee,
Have you explored the possibility of Candida-Related Syndrome (C-RS)(see archives). During pregnancy, the hormones skyrocket, and hormones feed yeast. Some women develop a yeast problem during and after their pregnancy. Hope this helps.
Sapphire
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=palpitations++candida
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
the thing that turned my health around was macrobotics-worth a month's try to see if it makes any difference in your condition.
I guess all of us mothers have some anxiety that we might not be there for our kids-we make an 18+ year commitment we have no idea if we'll stay alive to keep.
There's a country song, "live like you were dying' and another, "if tomorrow never comes"-all the people who die in car accidents don't know they are on the last day of their lives. Maybe it's better when you're sick and suspect any day might be your last- because you can make each day count- build memories, write journals for your kids to read when they grow up. So many of us get caught up in everyday activities-do the dishes, clean the house- hope you'll use your fears to prioritize-leave the dishes in the sink and go hunt butterflies with your kids.
I hope that doesn't sound like I'm giving up on you- I truly believe macrobiotics can save lives, but I guess I don't believe most people will try it. Enjoy your time on earth and your kids-you may surprise yourself and live another 20-40 years-let them be happy ones with memories your kids will always treasure.Whether it's one day or thousands, fear won't make them better days.
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by ANN [1003.516] on June 08, 2006 at 11:41:42:
Verse 1
He said I was in my early forties, with a lot of life before me
And one moment came that stopped me on a dime
I spent most of the next days, looking at the x-rays
Talking bout' the options and talking bout' sweet times.
I asked him when it sank in, that this might really be the real end
How's it hit 'cha when you get that kind of news?
Man what did ya do?
He said
Chorus
I went skydiving
I went rocky mountain climbing
I went two point seven seconds on a bull named Fu Man Chu
And I loved deeper
And I spoke sweeter
And I gave forgiveness I'd been denyin'
And he said some day I hope you get the chance
To live like you were dyin'
Verse 2
He said I was finally the husband, that most the time I wasn't
And I became a friend, a friend would like to have
And all of a sudden goin' fishin, wasn't such an imposition
And I went three times that year I lost my dad
Well I finally read the good book, and I took a good long hard look
At what I'd do if I could do it all again
And then
Chorus
I went skydiving
I went rocky mountain climbing
I went two point seven seconds on a bull named Fu Man Shu
And I loved deeper
And I spoke sweeter
And I gave forgiveness I'd been denyin'
And he said some day I hope you get the chance
To live like you were dyin'
Bridge
Like tomorrow was the end
And ya got eternity to think about what to do with it
What should you do with it
What can I do with it
What would I do with it
Skydiving
I went rocky mountain climbing
I went two point seven seconds on a bull named Fu Man Chu
And man I loved deeper
And I spoke sweeter
And I watched an eagle as it was flyin'
And he said some day I hope you get the chance
To live like you were dyin'
To live like you were dyin' (4x)
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Hi Renee,
I could have written your letter 10 years ago, I know what a living hell it is, those pvc's ruin everything and cause depression, anxiety and panic, no matter what people say. And having young children/babies to raise was soooo hard, going through that.
I went the drug route and got great relief for a few years, then the meds backfired on me and it was hell withdrawing from them. I was actually on 100mg. of Toprol XL, enough to sedate a 300 lb. man, he he, and I was a thin woman, it did help and get the pvc's down to maybe a dozen a day, but then they came back on me horribly even on that dose, so then the doc added ativan, a benzo to that, and I had a wonderful year, then that backfired on me and I ended up in tolerance withdrawal and spent the next 3 years in a hell beyond what most people endure, of protracted benzo w/d, 24/7 panic/anxiety/pvcs, and I had no other drug to take for them, so I began looking into diet, etc.
Thanks to www.WestonAPrice.org and their philosophy of eating the way our ancestors ate, all whole foods, lots of animal protein, raw milk, Celtic sea salt, I started healing. The diet works, but the other key is stress release like Walt talks about, so true. Even the perfect diet is not enough. I thank God for Walt and this site, as the SR is CRUCIAL to getting better. I believe I told you it will be hard to get the stress down until your kids are a bit older. Until then, you need to do the Weston Price diet and start yoga, the deep breathing and stretching has truly benefited me, more than the meditation, as I have a busy mind, but yoga keeps your mind from wandering and gets it into alpha. Also make sure you are walking some everyday.
One huge thing I learned, is that lowfat will really cause pvcs, the heart needs fat, and guess what? Saturated fat like butter is its preferred fuel. Start eating butter if you are not now, or try ghee, same benefits. I also found out I was majorly minerally deficient, so Celtic Sea salt added to my water and all food really helped as did pinches of mag. glycinate as needed. Raw dairy like raw goat's milk was VERY healing for my heart, I guess all the minerals and fat in it in an easy to absorb form. Please email me privately--Rank35@yahoo.com if you would like help with this diet. For me, pvc's were a result of a fat deficient diet, a mineral deficient diet, and high stress. Cod liver oil and Ambrotose by Mannatech were the final healing tools. You also need natural probiotics like kefir, buttermilk, cultured veggies, etc. to get the gut healthy and able to manufacture the B vitamins. I could never take B vitamins, but I can handle kefir and cultured veggies.
And finally, as you age your body will make less adrenalin and slow down some, so you can look forward to this, around 40. Things will get better if you do ALL of the above, Juli
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by ANN [1003.516] on June 08, 2006 at 11:41:42:
Sometimes late at night
I lie awake and watch her sleeping
She's lost in peaceful dreams
So I turn out the lights and lay there in the dark
And the thought crosses my mind
If I never wake up in the morning
Would she ever doubt the way I feel
About her in my heart
(chorus)
If tomorrow never comes
Will she know how much I loved her
Did I try in every way to show her every day
That she's my only one
if my time on earth were through
She must face this world without me
Is the love I gave her in the past
Gonna be enough to last
If tomorrow never comes
'Cause I've lost loved ones in my life
Who never knew how much I loved them
Now I live with the regret
That my true feelings for them never were revealed
So I made a promise to myself
To say each day how much she means to me
And avoid that circumstance
Where there's no second chance to tell her how I feel
*chorus*
So tell that someone that you love
Just what you're thinking of
If tomorrow never comes
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Hi Renee,
Do you have acid reflux or difficulty swallowing since your pregnancy?
If so, it is possible that you are suffering with a haital hernia which can put pressure on the Vagus nerve which controls the heart.
Esophageal spasms can also be confused with heart palps.
Ron
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Juli [2364.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 11:51:35:
Hi Julie,
This is a wonderful testamonial of how you practiced wellness and it worked for you! Essentially you followed the whole foods diet. Hope they stick this in the archives!
Thanks for sharing.
Many can benefit from your testamonial.
Barb
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Until you learn to cope and relax, nothing you "do" or "take" will make a difference.
Been there.
In Reply to: Hope they stick this post in the testamonial archives! posted by Barb [5186.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 12:19:08:
Hi Barb,
Thank you!! It was a long hard road, but the whole foods diet really does rebalance the whole body. I share this over and over and over with people, but very few are as desperate as I was to get well. You have to do the diet perfectly for some time, like Walt says. It also takes many months and with me, a few years to fully heal, but sooo worth it. I still get setbacks, but not due to diet, due to stress and now I am truly benefiting from SR. Juli
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Hi Renee,
Don't give up! Keep looking.... I know of some very hopeless cases that did not quit and found their answer!
I do not think your case is hopeless! The answer may not "come to you".... you may have to create it yourself. That is what I did!
Best wishes,
Jan
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
People with single lead pacemakers have PVC (retrograde) contractions, every heart beat, for the rest of their lives. After a while, they don't even notice it.
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Renee,
What happened when you did the magnesium therapuetic trial?
How well have you been doing the 3LS and for how long?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on June 09, 2006 at 06:57:41:
I could never find a doctor to do the IV therapy. I've spent over $3,000. I gave up on doctors, and eventually went back to the magnesium glycinate that I originally thought gave me worse pvc's. I started with a minute dose a few times a day. It seemed to be working and I gradually increased it a little. But I still was never taking more than 200mg. elemental per day because my pvcs get worse if I take more.
I do notice, that my pvc's seem to get worse if I take in something high in sodium. Or they get better when I take potassium (But never go away) I've read enough to know that these, too, can be signs of not enough magnesium. Then why won't my body accept it. I can't even read the archives anymore about the people who started magnesium and had their pvc's go away. It makes me angry.
It seems I can't even be lucky enough for the magnesium to work. My history, personality, symptoms, timing of symptoms, etc., all point exactly to magnesium deficiency, except for the fact that the magnesium hasn't helped me.
I can't fight this any longer. People telling me to just live with it, or comparing it to living our daily lives knowing that it could be our last, all doesn't help. This doesn't compare to going about your daily life that way. This is feeling like you are seconds away from dying a thousand times a day. Being that close doesn't allow for "enjoying the time you have left and living every minute to the fullest". Could someone dangling over the edge of a cliff by a fraying rope enjoy what time they have left, knowing "we're all going to go sometime"?
Anyway, thanks again to all who responded and tried to help. Although it might not sound like it, I do appreciate you trying to help.
I think it may be Michele that may be closest to the truth. Because I've been this way my whole life. I just don't know how to change at this late date.
God Bless Everyone on this Board, and especially Dr. Stoll.
Renee
In Reply to: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 08, 2006 at 10:50:17:
Bless you heart Renee. Try fish oil, I have read that it is really effective for palps. Google "fish oil and palpitations". It sounds really promising. Something about stabilizing cardiac cell membranes. Don't give up!
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 09, 2006 at 07:38:24:
Don't give up, believe things will get better. Don't feel like you are alone-I imagine most of us have been through similar times in our lives, I know I have. Do what you can to learn to relax and live healthly and enjoy as much as you can along the way. Worry and fear are truely enemies. I've come to believe that situations don't determine my time here, but God does and Jesus came that we might have life and I'm not planning on going anytime soon. Maybe realizing that you are not in control, and these situations are not in control, but God has you, your family, and a plan for your life will help you to relax and let go. I pray that God will give you perfect peace over this situation.
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by ik [114.1351] on June 10, 2006 at 04:53:19:
remember that faith is expecting the best and that is what God wants for you-consistently believing this inspite of your symptoms. Hold on and believe God's help is on the way!
In Reply to: Re: PVC's still ruining my life posted by Renee [5518.1351] on June 09, 2006 at 07:38:24:
Thanks, Renee.
Listen to your bodymind.
I se no mention of SR here--which is statistically more important than the magnesium.
Walt
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