Cardiac Dysrrhythmias historical posts March 1998

Re: atrial fibrillation

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 01, 1998 at 08:41:19:

Dear Cindy,

Forty years ago, when I was in medical school, this condition in a female of your age would have been cause for writing a paper (it was so unusual). Now, however, it is so common that no one takes another look.

For you to have shortness of breath upon exertion, with the atrial enlargement, "everything is NOT normal" as your docs are telling you. You need a much more competent doc.

I would start finding such a doc in your area by calling (800) 532-3688 and getting a list of the physicians in your area who are certified in Chelation Therapy. That is not to say that you need Chelation. However, docs who care enough for their patients' welfare to learn Chelation also are far ahead of the conventional doc in metabolic causes of your condition and the resolutions of same.

Get copies of ALL your medical records to take with you to whomever you decide to see in consultation. This will save lots of time & money.

Let us know how you do. The most common cause for your susceptibility to this problem would be an intracellular magnesium deficiency. Let the consulting Chelation doc make that diagnosis and treat it appropriately.

This should be pretty easily resolvable--and needs to be!

Walt



Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by Shelly R on March 01, 1998 at 09:41:17:

Steve,
Did the doctor give you a reason why you had rapid heart rate? I think a key here is not when you "cheat" and eat fatting foods. It could be the sugar refind carbs and wheat. I would have never guessed that foods and allergies to foods would cause such a problem. I too had a heart rate of 200 or more. Went to severl specialist even an elctrocardiologist. They had no idea. Just wanted to cartirize the nobe in my heart to slow it down. Glad I decieded to ifnd out what was the cause. I would suggest you search eveything on the BB on Cardiac Dysrrhythmias, Refind Carbs, Whole Food, Relaxation. I also found good information on other links-m Petter Wrays ALTERNATIVE HEALING PAGE. I think you'll get a better picture of what your body is trying to tell you. Good Luck

Shelly


Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by sharoyn on March 01, 1998 at 10:59:57:

in december '97, i was hospitalized twice with af. had never heard of it before.both times brought back to sinus rhythm with medication.first time, doctors said probably a fluke-all test indicate a normal heart, lungs, blood pressure, etc. i was put on lanoxin, had nausea, got off and it happened again. first time they told me no caffeine. i told them i don
n't do caffeine. second time they told me no sugar!!! (i do sugar alot) so YES , diet does seem to play a bpart. although i have always been a sweet lover, i am 53 yer old and never had af before.i am now on tambocor and i still have episodes but not as severe and i continue to search for a cure. i still do sugar.



Re: atrial fibrillation

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 01, 1998 at 13:02:58:

Dear Allan,

IF your condition is related to the magnesium thing, you are likely low enough that you will not absorb magnesium efficiently orally. Most people need at least a gram of IV magnesium at least 3 times a week for 2 weeks to get their intracellular magnesium up enough that they CAN absorb it orally. This has been discussed thoroughly within the past month right here on this BB. The most easily absorbed oral magnesium is orotate, aspartate and glycinate--in that order. The most likely physicain in your area who would have the knowledge to do this for you would be the one who is also certified in Chelation Therapy. Call (800) 532-3688.

By the way, if your problem IS related to coronary artery disease, you NEED chelation anyhow.

This is well covered in my book along with more resources for you to become an expert in this than you probably want.

The complete protocols for a serious "Wellness Program" are also in my book. You could get started by going to the link: How to be Healthy.

Walt



Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 01, 1998 at 13:27:21:

Dear Steve,

You need to read "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier. You will begin to see why you have this. Your bodymind is just trying to send you a message.

You might start by using the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about Cardiac Dysrrhythmias.

Walt



Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by David Norman on March 02, 1998 at 18:38:47:

Doctor Stoll,
Have been doing a lot of reading (mostly your BB) regarding atrial fib. Just received your book in the mail today as well. Here's my story (in brief). I'm a healthy, 38 y/o white male military member in Omaha, NE. I have always taken good care of myself. Racquetball, weight-lifting, some jogging. I exercise 5 or 6 days per week. Quit smoking 3 weeks ago today. On 5 Feb, while playing strenuous racquetball, I felt palpitations in my chest. I had felt these before for the last 3 or 4 years, but they always went away within a minute or two if I relaxed and took deep breaths. Well, it hadn't gone away after a couple of hours so I went to the emergency room (military hospital). They did an EKG which showed that I was in AF. After another hour or so, my heart rate and sinus rythym converted back to normal on it's own. During AF episode, my heart rate was between 120 and 145 bpm. Had echocardiogram done and was seen by a locally respected civilian cardiologist (Dr Mohiuddin of St Joseph's Hospital). He said that there was no apparent structural or mecahnical abnormality that he could see and that I could go back to normal activity. Two days later, while playing Rball I went into AF again. Another trip to the emergency room. This time, after 30-45 minutes they gave me intravenous cardizam (sp). After another hour, my heart rate and sinus rythym again returned to normal. They also put me on Atenolol (which I stopped taking after 2 days because of the effects). I am now scheduled for a treadmill stress test tomorrow, with a follow on visit with the cardiologist in the afternoon. One week ago, in response to some of your postings on the BB, I started to take supplemental magnesium and potassium in addition to the other supplements I already take (centrum, lysine, e, beta carotine, and bayer aspirin (1 per day since the first episode). I have read many studies and articles on AF over the last three weeks, and am afraid and confused by all that I have read (especially the part regarding strokes, hence the aspirin). Is there anything else you can tell me that would help me out. I would, first and foremost, like to be rid of this problem, and second would love to get back on the rball courts as I play competitively in tournaments. I do so hope that I can. Any help or advice you can give would be much appreciated. Am looking forward to starting your book this evening. Thanks in advance.

David Norman


Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by Gerry Maki on March 03, 1998 at 15:54:59:

In Reply to: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias posted by David Norman on March 02, 1998 at 18:38:47:

David, just down the road from me is a company called Incontrol that is in clinical trials of its Atrial Defib product in the US. Its already being marketed in Europe. This is an implantable defibrillator that shocks your heart back to normal, under your control. Don't know when it will be generally available, but hang in there! Its web site is at www.incontrol.com.


Re: atrial fibrillation

Posted by Dave Robinson on March 03, 1998 at 19:42:03:

AF is the most predominant rhythym disorder in the world. Presently there are a number of research trials aimed at developing a cure. These efforts are commencing in Europe and the United States. AF is difficult to treat with catheter ablation as it's origin is primarily in the left atrium, and new techniques, and tools must be developed to treat this disorder. For more information visit www.naspe.org.



Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1998 at 11:11:53:

In Reply to: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias posted by David Norman on March 02, 1998 at 18:38:47:

Dear David,

Your story is a great example of the limitations to the allopathic paradigm: Wait till you get worse & we will treat you then.

If I had what you have, I would find a knowledgable physician in your area who would know enough to give you at least a gram or two of magnesium IV 3 times a week for 2 weeks. A common solution would be 20% magnesium chloride and 10 cc being given over a period of about 5 minutes. The most likely physician in your area would be one certified in Chelation therapy. You can find them by calling (800) 532-3688.

In the meantime, you should find a copy of "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier. You would better understand how your hypothalamus has made you susceptible to the magnesium deficiency.

Find magnesium orotate, aspartate or glucinate and start taking a couple of grams of magnesium daily. When your level goes up with the IV loading, you will start absorbing it efficiently enough to maintain your level orally.

Once you have practiced skilled relaxation 20 minutes twice a day for 6-12 months, you should never have this problem again. I think you should continue to practice the relaxation at least once a day forever to prevent recurrence. Youuwill have to keep up your oral maintence of the magnesium for the rest of your life too.

There are many more concepts in the book that will fill in the puzzle for you. Please share your questions & progress with us here on the BB.

Walt



atrial fibrillation

Posted by Bob Bernstein on March 07, 1998 at 22:43:35:

I am so amazed at this web site. I've never talked to anyone else who has a-fib. The accounts that I read sound so like me! Like so many others, the medicines I have taken or are taking are not helping. The a-fib is happening more frequently with stronger episodes. I used to be a runner--now I can manage a walk but I just can't do what I think I should still be able to do. I'm convinced I need chelation and IV magnesium but I don't think I can afford the time commitment. Three hour sessions three to four times a week is not a luxury I can come up with. A company is promoting oral chelation--a buffering dosage for three months, a chelation agent and detox for liver and kidneys for three months, and nutritional support for three months. Can this work?

Thanks for being around.

Bob Bernstein


Re: atrial fibrillation

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 09, 1998 at 10:05:30:

In Reply to: atrial fibrillation posted by Bob Bernstein on March 07, 1998 at 22:43:35:

Dear Bob,

The IV magnesium would take about 5 minutes 3 times a week for 2 weeks. You could keep your magnesium up orally after that. If you can't break out THAT much time, this should be an indication to both of us as to PART of the problem. You can only beat a tired horse for so long.

I have YET to see oral chelation (et-al) work in less than 20-30 years. If people started this in their 20s they would be healthier in their 50s. HOWEVER, this is not YOUR situation. Won't hurt but probably won't help in THIS lifetime.

Walt



Re: atrial fibrillation

Posted by Bob Bernstein on March 09, 1998 at 11:35:20:

In Reply to: Re: atrial fibrillation posted by Walt Stoll on March 09, 1998 at 10:05:30:

Thanks. You saved me time, effort and money. The IV magnesium sounds easy enough but it still sounds like IV Chelation is necessary. I guess there's no better time like the present. I'll let you know how I progress. By the way, I am ordering you book today.

Thanks again.

Bob Bernstein


Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by JEFF on March 29, 1998 at 23:59:22:

In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1998 at 11:11:53:

Could this magnesium work for someone having palpitations even VentricularF?? I am 24 male with palps and tach's .....please email



Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 30, 1998 at 11:40:33:

In Reply to: Re: Cardiac Dysrrhythmias posted by JEFF on March 29, 1998 at 23:59:22:

Der Jeff,

ANY cardiac dysrrhythmia will respond favorably to a healthy level of intracellular magnesium. Since ALL research now indicates that the majority of Americans are deficient.................

Walt



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