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Battling Chronic Yeast

Posted by Gregory on December 26, 2002 at 11:22:16:

I was searching for some information for my father, who suffers from CFS. I came across this article in my internal health database and thought I would share it with you.



Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY

Posted by Helping You on December 26, 2002 at 13:33:43:

In Reply to: Battling Chronic Yeast posted by Gregory on December 26, 2002 at 11:22:16:

I Gregory and to all that read this,

I am glad that you posted this because in my opinion, this is exactly what NOT to do if you have candida or CFS. This person started having problems in 1984. He did not get better until 1996 for some very good reasons.

He was right to eliminate sugar. That, of course, is a must if candida is going to be controlled. However, there is no mention of what the rest of the diet was composed of so, for all we know, he could have also made more mistakes in that area as well as what I am going to comment on. He did mention eating "live acidophilous yogurt" but again, we don't know what brand or weather it was raw or pasteurized. My belief is that it had to be a weak pastuerized form. This tends to worsen people with candida. Live, raw kefir, especially from goat, tends to help people with candida. This person did not do that.

He goes on to describe many of the supplements and therapies he did to overcome the yeast. Nystatin powder was a big one for him. He would use the nystatin powder, and follow it up with acidophilous. The theory was, the nystatin powder would kill the yeast, and the acidophilus would crowd out the rest and take their place. The problem is, it's not that simple. Even if the nystatin powder did kill most of the yeast for him, his intestinal tract would have been too alkaline due to all the yeast overgrowth. Thefore, the acidophilus would have never taken hold. Obviously this is the case because it took him 12 years to get over this condition.

He mentions some herbal antifungals such as caprylic acid. Again, these are effective with certain strains of yeast, but not with others. He might also have been taking too low a dosage. This is why, in my opinion, discovering the strain of yeast is a must if antifungals are going to be used.

His second to last statement was incredible as well. He mentions taking more than a gram each of Vitamin E, B, Glutamic Acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine. That is whay too much vitamin E, and candida has been known to metabolize vitamin B supplements. Basically, he continued to feed the yeast this way. The "die-off" symptoms he claimed to experience were probably only detoxification reactions due to the high doses of N-acetyl-cysteine which is a potent liver detoxifier. Little did he know, he was feeding his problem.

Next, he tries fasting and colonic irrigation. Fasting is not the best thing to do with candida. Candida continues to deplete your body while you fast. The fasting also depletes the body creating a double-whammy effect on your body. Not a great thing to do, especially when coupled with CFS. He goes on to tell us how to do a home colonic. Colonics leave the bowel in an alkaline state and can worsen candida conditions. This is a bad idea. The best thing that he did was the pysllium fiber and even THAT is something that I wouldn't necessarily do (it depends on the individual. Certain fibers help certain people. It's important to discover which works best for you).

After all of this, it's amazing that he even got well. The trick to overcoming candida, from a nutritional point of view, is in changing the intestinal pH to support healthy bacteria. Good bacteria do not do well in an alkaline pH. They need a slightly acidic pH in order to thrive. Inversely, bad bacteria need an alkaline pH to thrive. This is why trying to introduce good bacteria into an alkaline GI tract is fruitless. It's like trying to grow roses in toxic waste. Even if all the weeds are removed, the roses will still not grow. So, taking traditional probiotics while candida runs the GI tract is fruitless. Only foods and supplements that can ALTER the pH of the GI tract can overcome candida permenently. Sure, we can kill candida in the short run, but unless we change the pH, candida comes back. Save the probiotics for when the pH has been successfully changed and the candida eliminated.

Many techniques have been described on this board on how to acidify the GI tract and get rid of candida. These are the most effective ways:

1. SR
2. Soil organisms = proven in clinical studies to reduce or eliminate candida while changin the pH of the intestinal tract at the same time
3. REAL fermented foods = provides lactic acid which supports a healthy intestinal pH

Other natural foods to kill bad bugs:

1. Coconut oil = contains lauric acid which has anti-microbial properties
2. Garlic
3. Olive oil
4. Raw cultured dairy

A perfect whole-foods diet was never mentioned in this article. My belief is that he didn't really know what to do other than eliminate sugar. He still could have been eating too many starchy carbohydrates and grains. It's best to eat a lower starch diet while counteracting candida. This way, you will get better in a matter of months instead of a decade or more. I'm glad this article was posted.

-HY



Re: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY

Posted by bing on December 26, 2002 at 16:50:51:

In Reply to: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY posted by Helping You on December 26, 2002 at 13:33:43:

I'm glad you mentioned garlic as an effective food for its anti-fungal/viral properties. In fact, among cultures where raw garlic is part of the daily diet, Candida is almost unheard of (of course, garlic in this case is only one of many factors).

Raw, fresh garlic is the most potent form to promote health, and is consumed by people from many Asian countries all year round. However, I hardly ever see westerners eat garlic that way: here, garlic is either cooked, or processed into garlic powder, or sold as minced garlic in jars, or in tablet form.

Another thing that should be eliminated is iced/chilled/frozen/any other cold-tempratured food and drinks, all of which cause a "damp" condition in the body and candida thrives in damp conditions, according to traditional Chinese medicine. Not long after I found this BB, I made some posts about "why people drink iced drinks" etc, but few people actually got it. O well.



Re: Battling Chronic Yeast (Good options.) Archive in CFS.

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 27, 2002 at 09:44:11:

In Reply to: Battling Chronic Yeast posted by Gregory on December 26, 2002 at 11:22:16:

Thanks, Gregory.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY (Archive in C-RS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 27, 2002 at 09:54:55:

In Reply to: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY posted by Helping You on December 26, 2002 at 13:33:43:

Tnanks, HY.

Happy New Year!

Namaste`

Walt



raw garlic

Posted by Helping You on December 27, 2002 at 12:57:37:

In Reply to: Re: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY posted by bing on December 26, 2002 at 16:50:51:

How about that! We agree! Thanks Bing

-HY

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Re: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY (Archive in C-RS.)

Posted by Helping You on December 27, 2002 at 12:58:06:

In Reply to: Re: Battling Chronic Yeast THE WRONG WAY (Archive in C-RS.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 27, 2002 at 09:54:55:

Happy New Year to you too Walt!! :-)

-HY

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