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has anyone on the board had any experience with suma root for the treatment of chronic fatigue.a friend of mine has had cfs severe for 15 years, nothing worked until he found suma root ( i think it comes from brazil) he has been taking it for 5 years with no side effects. his energy went from a 2 out of 10 to an 8 out of 10 the day he started taking it and remained, he still considers himself a "chronic fatuge" patient but he now leads a normal life with just a bit of fatigue here and there as opposed to being mostly bedridden. i checked and i dont see it as a stimulant. i tried it for a day and i must say the results were instantaneous, i felt 98% mormal for the first time in 4 years.no fatige, no brain fog etc- im afaid to take it long term until i know more.
In Reply to: suma root-cfs cure? posted by shaggy on June 02, 2001 at 14:43:50:
Where did he get the Suma Root ?? never heard of it.
VF
In Reply to: Re: suma root-cfs cure? posted by Vince F on June 03, 2001 at 05:29:34:
im sure you could look it up on the net.its a powder. i had an 800 number but i lost it . i ll call the guy and see if i can get it again. i swear ive trued everyhting the last 4 years in terms of supplements etc ( i do doc stolls stuff and that made me a lot better) but this suma root is the only thing that ever gave me any real results and it was instant ie withen 20 minutes after i tried it. and its not like a caffiene buzz or anything it just made me feel good. almost like a magic bullet ( i know none exists for real but it worked)
In Reply to: Re: suma root-cfs cure? posted by shaggy on June 03, 2001 at 08:29:37:
I would say if it improves function with no negative side
effects it should be OK. Your friend has been taking it for
5 yrs so should be an indication.
How many times or for how long have you taken it ?? I
believe in magic bullets if you find one that is needed. MSM
has done amazing things for me and isn't needed after a
short period for what it fixed so that sounds pretty magical
to me. Cayenne is another.
VF
In Reply to: Re: suma root-cfs cure? posted by shaggy on June 03, 2001 at 08:29:37:
Since the REAL diagnosis of CFS is related to heavy metal poisoning (mercury), it is unlikely that your treatment could work, and work within 20 minutes.
There is no magic ...
In Reply to: Re: suma root-cfs cure? posted by MAI on June 03, 2001 at 13:48:37:
its not always heavy metal poisoning, i know dozens of people who had no fillings and tests showed they had no heavy metal accumulation. there are many causes.
im telling you it worked for this guy.i know him.
In Reply to: Re: suma root-cfs cure? posted by shaggy on June 03, 2001 at 15:01:39:
First of all the test rarely will show the mercury content.
Dental mercury amalgam are not the only source of mercury, however are THE most common.
The problem with CFS is that there is NO real diagnostic criteria and frequently fatigue is diagnosed as MCS.
Keep in mind that doctors know very little about the "unconventional diagnosis".
People who suffer from many other illnesses are also diagnosed with fatigue, but it is niot the same diagnosis.
In reality doctors are selling drugs for pharmaceutical companies and they will not make diagnosis if they can not sell you a drug to treat it.
Many underestimate the operation of "medical mafia", how the system works and what and who and how ....
Untill there will be no definitive diagnostic criteria we will have plenty of of tangen research and justifications to acquire the financial support to research such conditions from mono or EBV to cytomegalovirus.
Look at one issue that for example AIDS is being diagnosed in many casses despite that AIDS is a syndrome.
The HIV virus was never isolated.
The tests are performed using DNA PCR test, despite no one seen the virus, and some claim that such virus does not exists, and diagnosis is made for disease which altough is well defined is also belived to be of other causes. Some claim it is cauased by toxins which produce the "antibodies" and not by virus.
While I am not endorsing either theory, I simply do not know, there is still lots of unknown in medicine, and research are abused by those who want to prove something contrary to ......
Money talk ....
In Reply to: Re: suma root-cfs cure? posted by MAI on June 04, 2001 at 03:03:15:
I have CFS, FM, MCS and I may have mercury in my system
but that isn't what caused it unless the chemicals I
absorbed released it but MSM has taken away many of the
symptoms and something else could take away the rest. Not
haveing to take the MSM but a few times unlike other things
that helped is interesting.
VF
In Reply to: suma root-cfs cure? posted by shaggy on June 02, 2001 at 14:43:50:
Thanks, shaggy!
Please let us know how long you see improvement like this.
My first thought is "Chronic conditions are not resolved permanently by something you TAKE but by something you DO."
IF cfs is caused by a deficiency of suma root, it will be a major discovery which I would welcome.
The only problem with taking something that produces temporary results is that the patient loses their urgency to work at the causes.
Walt
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