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chelation therapy

Posted by phil f on October 18, 1998 at 11:53:49:

A cardiologist I spoke to about chelation said that the NIH did a $10 million double blind study about 5 years ago that showed zero impact on heart problems. This flies in the face of other studies I've read about. Know anything about the NIH study?


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Re: chelation therapy

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 19, 1998 at 12:01:08:

In Reply to: chelation therapy posted by phil f on October 18, 1998 at 11:53:49:

Dear Phil,

You are hearing the "party line". Ask your intentionally ignorant cardiologist for a copy of the study.

I am aware of that study and, not only was it never finished (because people on the real stuff were doing too much better than those doing the placebo that it was not ethical to withold the real stuff from the placebo patients. Also, this was true even though they refused to use the international protocol we have all learned works the best.

Call ACAM to get the true story: (800) 532-3688.

I practiced what your cardiologist practices for 13 years before I saw what chelation did for my mother. THEN, I could no longer practice medicine honestly without being able to offer chelation to appropriate patients. Since I offered it, at the very least, I saved 200 patient from needless major vascular surgery (from coronary bypass, carotid artery and leg artery surgery). Besides, there were many unexpected benefits in many patients. In addition to that I prevented at least a dozen amputations from diabetic complications.

I am no longer in practice. What could I possibly gain from giving false information?

This guy is speaking from self-serving ignorance.

Walt



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Re: chelation therapy

Posted by phil f on October 19, 1998 at 12:40:43:

In Reply to: Re: chelation therapy posted by Walt Stoll on October 19, 1998 at 12:01:08:

Thanks for your reply. I called ACAM, but they are only administrators at that number and know nothing about things scientific.
I then called HEALTHSAVERS PRESS to see if the Brechers --the authors of "Forty Something Forever"-- knew of that study.(I didn't recall their mentioning it in their book.) Somebody is supposed to get back to me.
I've also e-mailed the NIH and the Ntl. Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, telling them I couldn't find info on the study in their data bases.
Stay tuned.


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Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 20, 1998 at 10:09:59:

In Reply to: Re: chelation therapy posted by phil f on October 19, 1998 at 12:40:43:

Dear Phill,

I am embarassed at your response from ACAM. As soon as they are open today, I am calling them to complain. One of the main reasons for their existance is to disseminate information to lay people who call AND to give the names of Certified Chelation physicians in the area from which the caller is calling.

They ARE administrators! What else are administrators for? They have more than 2000 world wide studies available to send anyone who asks. Why would they send you away without what you asked for?

I will give them your name and suggest they do their jobs when you call them next. They ought to be ashamed!

They probably have a website (at least an email address). If you call them again get that too. Let me know what you learn.

Sorry! Walt

Walt



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Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 1998 at 11:48:06:

In Reply to: Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 20, 1998 at 10:09:59:

Addendum for Phil:

See my note today about "How to get Chelation Information". If THAT doesn't get you what you want let me know.

Thanks for letting me know. When I called them, the person I spoke to didn't even know the stuff I put in that note. She had to go to someone else to even know that they had all the research information available. I had to remind her that the last time I asked for research (from them) was about 18 years ago & at that time there was only about 1500 articles. THAT convinced her that she better ask someone (sigh).

Walt



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Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.)

Posted by phil f on October 21, 1998 at 20:05:39:

In Reply to: Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 1998 at 11:48:06:

Thanks for all your efforts, Walt.
I now got an e-mail from a Brian Marquis at "hq.row.com" who said he's sending me info on chelation and on "the clinical trial you spoke of in your e-mail". But he didn't say whether by snail mail or e-mail. Nor did he say what organization he's with.
I'll keep you posted.


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Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 22, 1998 at 11:20:44:

In Reply to: Re: chelation therapy (sorry Phil F.) posted by phil f on October 21, 1998 at 20:05:39:

Thanks, Phil.

If there is another helpful organization out there I would appreciate your telling me about it. I know that, eventually, there will be many but, till now didn't know about any but ACAM & GLACM (in Chicago--which doesn't do as much as ACAM).

Walt




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