Chelation historical posts April 1998

Chelation Therapy

Posted by Kevin on April 06, 1998 at 15:28:02:

I would like to know all or more infor on side effects to the EDTA Chelation Therapy. Or if one might be able to point me in the correct direction. I would also like to read some debacles of such therapy. In advance, thank you for your cooperation.

KING


Re: Chelation Therapy

Posted by phil f on April 06, 1998 at 23:12:05:

In Reply to: Chelation Therapy posted by Kevin on April 06, 1998 at 15:28:02:

Yeah, me too. I've read books extooling its virtuues, but havn't found any adverse comments. Are most MD's agin it ? If so, why?
Does it make sense to try it to attempt to decrease high cholesterol and triglycerides?


Re: Chelation Therapy

Posted by Vicki on April 08, 1998 at 11:20:42:

In Reply to: Chelation Therapy posted by Kevin on April 06, 1998 at 15:28:02:

For an anti-chelation diatribe, go to this web address:
www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelation.html





Re: Chelation Therapy

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 08, 1998 at 12:58:28:

In Reply to: Chelation Therapy posted by Kevin on April 06, 1998 at 15:28:02:

Deare Kevin,

Go to the link Chelation

Anyone who listens to the propaganda machine of the AMA, called the "quackbusters" deserves what they get. The AMA is NO different than the tobacco companies when it comes to lying to protect their interests.

I practiced conventional medicine (without chelation) for 15 years before my mother's experience proved to me that I was missing something. The last 15 years of my practice, using chelation, I saw remarkable reversals of chronic conditions that I NEVER saw using conventional approaches alone.

You will only see disparaging remarks from "professionals" who have not studied chelation or ever observed its effects on patients. They are parroting the AMA party line which has been formulated because coronary bypass costs about $150,000 while a more effective course of chelation costs about $3000.

There are NO negatives to chelation when used as directed by the international protocol for which all chelating physicians have been trained.

Good luck. Only those who still hang on every word of the tobacco companies still believe in the tooth fairy and the AMA.

Walt


Re: Uric Acid and Chelation Therapy

Posted by Richard Robinson on April 14, 1998 at 19:23:08:

looking on information on Indmethacin.


Re: Chelation Therapy

Posted by phil f on April 15, 1998 at 12:08:32:

In Reply to: Re: Chelation Therapy posted by Walt Stoll on April 08, 1998 at 12:58:28:

Walt-
You speak of chelation's good results with chronic conditions. But if you were healthy other than a stubbornly high cholesterol and triglycerides reading, would you try it?


Re: Chelation Therapy

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 17, 1998 at 11:08:41:

In Reply to: Re: Chelation Therapy posted by phil f on April 15, 1998 at 12:08:32:

Dear phil,

There are much better ways to resolve those problems.

I would need to know a lot more about you to consider how YOU might best approach these conditions.

In general, without knowing ANY more about you than those 2 conditions, a 10% fat whole-foods diet, the essential oils detailed on my homepage (link on this page), aerobic exercise 20 minutes 3 times a week and effective skilled relaxation 20 minutes at least twice a day (not counting any you might do within 2 hours of retiring) would produce normal blood levels within 6 months.

An 11% fat diet would not work. I will not take the time to expalin why since that has been discussed many times here on this BB & there are many references in the library about this (Pritilkin & Ornish).

Walt



Glaucoma

Posted by Jenna on April 07, 1998 at 13:31:43:

Dear Dr. Stoll,

I've was diagnosed with glaucoma three months ago. Is glaucoma a stress related illness? Is there anything that can be done without medication to correct the condition?

Thank you,
Jenna


Very sick husband

Posted by Sylvia on April 09, 1998 at 11:18:22:

Dear Walt,
Briefly, my husband has been in the hospital for about 20 days. Most of that time has been in the coronary care unit. He had a cardiac cath done on March 20, very bad blockages. He had by-pass surgury on March 24, 1998. Very good surgeon, the heart surgery was great, BUT, after two days he almost died. His blood pressure went way down. They haven't a clue why it happened. The overall guess is an infection somewhere. By the 4th of April they moved him to a room. He lasted there about 1 day and was back in the CCU where he still is.

They did every test on every organ you can think of--cat scans, ultra sound....Some of the results were that his gall bladder was enlarged and the duct was obstructed. They put a drain into his gall bladder. They think after all these tests that somewhere in his body is a large infection. All the cultures came back negative. Finally, on Tuesday (7th) they discovered yeast in his blood culture. They are giving him a powerful antifungal.
Also, his intestines were not working right from the time he first crashed. They said they were partly blocked somewhere. (This is why all the cat scans and x-rays) This seems to be better now. He has been seen by doctors for just about every organ. I talked to several of them about putting vitamin C into his I.V. Unheard of! They think I am nuts. This hospital is one of the major teaching institutions in Philadelphia.
The surgeon and the attending (cardiologist) are still talking about opening him up and taking out the gall bladder, and taking a look at his intestines. They thought he might have an abcess. They poke his belly every day. I ask if he can withstand another major operation at this time and they say they don't know. My husband is still a very sick man. On a ventilator, with lines and needles hanging out of everywhere.
Big question. How did the yeast get into his blood stream? Did it get out of his gut? Was it put in from his skin when they put the lines in?
I know this is a long story and could be longer if I had the time to write, but I must go down to the hospital and see what they are doing to him today.
Hoping to get a reply. I do have your book.
Sylvia


Re: Glaucoma

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 09, 1998 at 13:36:48:

In Reply to: Glaucoma posted by Jenna on April 07, 1998 at 13:31:43:

Dear Jenna,

Is this narrow angle or wide angle? Once I know that, I will know if I have more recommendations.

I have yet to see a chronic condition that did not improve with stress management.

Walt


Re: Glaucoma

Posted by Jenna on April 09, 1998 at 14:39:30:

In Reply to: Re: Glaucoma posted by Walt Stoll on April 09, 1998 at 13:36:48:

Dear Walt,

My optomotrist called it open angled glaucoma. I'm the first one in my family to ever be diagnosed with glaucoma. What is the difference between the two types glaucoma? Are they treated the same?

Thank you,

Jenna


Re: Very sick husband

Posted by Walat Stoll on April 11, 1998 at 15:40:25:

In Reply to: Very sick husband posted by Sylvia on April 09, 1998 at 11:18:22:

Dear Sylvia,

How old is your husband? This is, as you probably know, a desperate situation. Once things have gone that far, there is little that anyone can do conventionally. However, if he were MY husband, I would see if I could get a certified Chelation Physician in to see him in consultation. Your present docs will have to be secure enough that they will give him permission to see your husband in consultation. If they balk, you have to be secure enough to ask them what they are afraid of!

Even though Chelation would have saved him the surgery, infection, etc., it is not what he needs now. However, any Chelation physician would have the kind of wider way of looking at the problem needed to have a better idea of how to get him through this crisis.

If he makes it through this (& there is real doubt), and is stabilized at home, THEN it is time to do a course of chelation. For now, time is of the essence!

Call (800) 532-3688 and ask them for rthe names close enough to your husband to have a reasonable chance of getting to where he is. There are many in that area but I know none of them personally. However, if your present docs egos are such that they would sooner see your husband die than let anyone else see him, you might find out from those chelating docs close to Philadelphia which doc DOES have enough of an open mind as to care about your husband & is secure enough to ASK for a knowledgable consultant who is versed in complementary medicine. THEN, I would change docs & your new doc would then call in a consultant of your choosing.

You are in a mess! This is how to get out of it, IF your husband can hold out long enough.

Walt



Re: Glaucoma

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 11, 1998 at 16:06:53:

In Reply to: Re: Glaucoma posted by Jenna on April 09, 1998 at 14:39:30:


Dear Jenna,

"Open" angle (same as wide-angle) is the easiest to respond to holistic approaches. Narrow or "closed" angle does not respond well to anything but surgery & drops.

I would call (800) 532-3688 and ask them for a listing of physicians in your area who are certified in Chelation. You do not need chelation for this, it is just that those physicians would be the ones most likely to know a holistic ophthalmologist in your area.

A good holistic ophthalmologist would recommend acupuncture, high doses of antioxidents (at least 400 units of vitamin E daily, 100 milligrams of zinc daily, 2000 milligrams of esterified vitamin C twice a day, 50 milligrams of CoEnzyme Q10 twice a day and the essential oils mentioned in the note on my homepage of this website) (link on this page). Even though this will likely be enough to get your pressure back to normal, you really need to be seeing someone in your area who can monitor this for you so that you get on less of the stuff I mentioned above (only to save the cost) and stay on a maintenance dose to prevent recurrence.

As you get well, please share your experiences with us here on the BB. Others deserve to know that there are, safe and effective ways to resolve this that are not being offered by the conventional medical monopoly.

REMEMBER, all of the above will work better if you become a serious student of "wellness". My home page also has an introduction to that with references.

Walt


Re: Very sick husband

Posted by Terrie Milligan on April 11, 1998 at 16:48:37:

In Reply to: Re: Very sick husband posted by Walat Stoll on April 11, 1998 at 15:40:25:

Sylvia,
You have my prayers.
Take Care,
Terrie


Re: Glaucoma

Posted by Jenna on April 11, 1998 at 22:50:31:

In Reply to: Re: Glaucoma posted by Walt Stoll on April 11, 1998 at 16:06:53:

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll keep you posted on my progress.


Many thanks,
Jenna


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