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Re: Prolo Sclero therapy

Posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 23:04:58:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by Paulette on September 26, 2000 at 08:48:51:

I checked out the link on Prolo Sclero therapy, and do not think that I am in quite that bad of shape. My back soreness is not constant, nor is it severe. It is, however, downright annoying (not to mention fatiguing) when it is bothering me, but not enough to put me out of comission by any stretch of the imagination. I just want to make sure it doesn't get any worse, nor do I want to cause problems for myself down the road by choosing the wrong therapy for my situation--by the way, I'm a 25 year old male.

Thanks,
JR



Re: Prolo Sclero therapy

Posted by
Vince F on September 27, 2000 at 01:24:04:

In Reply to: Re: Prolo Sclero therapy posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 10:42:23:

The link pretty much describes what I have heard. The Dr
told me the dextrose Feeds muscles and rebuilds them. Maybe
that was what was thought 25 yrs ago.

A few things to consider. My mother had chronic minor pain
she she had us kids and 15 yrs later it flared up bad and
a Dr told her to stay in bed to heal or she could need
surgery. It kept geting worse and she begged my dad to find
a Dr. he worked with a guy whose wife was a nurse at a
prestigous teaching hospital here and she said, before she
sees anyone else to go to a Former orthopedic surgeon there
who found a treatment that helps many. He told her he stoped
cuting when he found it. My mom was Bad like the link
mentioned and she couldn't get on the exam table so he put
her in the hospital, gave her morphine to knock her out and
gave her his full treatment at the time of 16 shots and they
Are Big. She said she woke up the next day with some pain so
he have her more morphine. the next day she woke and was Pain Free so
he discharged her and she hasn't had a pain since and that
has to be 40 yrs ago.

I also know people who had a problem and he cured them in
one office visit for under 100$. I wish i would have gone
when i had a flare since the Dr retired and I haven't found
anyone who uses dextrose which i would opt for as opposed to
saline because I Know how that works. My back goes out every
so often but gets better fairly fast but sure would be nice
to not have the problem at all.

VF



Re: Is Chiropractic safe - to JR

Posted by
sandy on September 27, 2000 at 07:49:47:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 10:40:31:

Dear JR,
The best place to start (or maybe the place to end!) is by learning to accept that we all do have a place in the Universe, and a perfect right (not to mention a definite need) to be here, and also that the Universe will always provide what we need (although not necessarily what we want!)
So easy to say, I know, and often so difficult to do.
You could also try getting some Caroline Myss books and/or tapes. I have found her work to be extremely helpful in this regard. Stress reduction and regular meditation would also be helpful.
Another option would be to look into flower essences, and I would also recommend taking a good B complex and magnesium supplement.
And of course, it's essential to get your power back by taking control of your life - that's probably the biggest and most important step of all. Take time to sit down with pen and paper and work out a plan to get yourself out of debt and start working towards it, and work out a plan for any other area of your life that you feel you don't have control of. (By control, I don't mean controlling other people, or disciplined self-control, I just mean a sense of being able to cope with whatever the Universe is throwing at you.
I'd also suggest doing something every day (it can be some little thing, insignificant to most) that gives you a sense of achievement and increases your self-confidence. Best to try small things to start with, but things you have never tried before, or didn't think you ever could/would do. Perhaps enrol in a night class in a subject you think you might be good at but never had time or energy to learn, or - well, I will leave it up to your imagination. All just thoughts and suggestions, but hopefully some of them will hit the right spot. Good luck!



Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by Doc Kim on September 27, 2000 at 09:58:16:

In Reply to: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 00:36:22:

Hi JR,

Sounds to me like you have a great relationship with a great doc. An adustment every 2 to 4 months does not sound excessive at all to me.

There are so many factors to consider when tying to gage how often you need care. The kind of work you do, what kind of hobbies you have, what kind of stress you are under, how you handle stress, etc. all have an impact on your body.

I have mentioned many times on this board about the relationship between the TMA (TMJ) and low back pain. I continually find that, once the jaw problem is addressed, the low back problem stays fixed. I know it sounds weird, but, spend a week in my office and you would become a believer.

Do you know any people who crack their knuckles several times a day? Chances are, these people have no arthritis in their knuckles and I'm sure none of them have had their hands fall off!

Doc Kim



Re: Is Chiropractic safe (Any long term effects?) (Archive in Chiropractic.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 28, 2000 at 07:07:51:

In Reply to: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 00:36:22:

Hi, JR.

Yes there ARE! People who use Chiropractic routinely, over time, are significantly healthier than those who depend on the conventional monopoly. SO, the side effects are all positive.

Namaste`

Walt




THANKS WALT!!!! (nmi)

Posted by JR on September 28, 2000 at 07:47:18:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (Any long term effects?) (Archive in Chiropractic.) posted by Walt Stoll on September 28, 2000 at 07:07:51:

nmi



Thanks for the reply....

Posted by JR on September 28, 2000 at 07:54:18:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by Doc Kim on September 27, 2000 at 09:58:16:

Doc Kim,

Thanks so much for your post. What the heck is the relationship between TMJ and back pain?? (you're right, it sounds weird! :) I don't think I have any problems with my jaw, although I have a friend who DOES broken jaw when she was in high school, and has had problems ever since(not sure about back problems though) I do know she gets migraines a lot....

I take it that by "Doc Kim" you are a practitioner of some sort. What is your specialty?

JR



Re: Doc Kim is a Chiropractor, read about him in the Glossary (NMI)

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on September 28, 2000 at 08:34:32:

In Reply to: Thanks for the reply.... posted by JR on September 28, 2000 at 07:54:18:

Doc Kim is a Chiropractor, read about him in the Glossary.



PROLOTHERAPY

Posted by
Rich Gonci on September 28, 2000 at 12:14:08:

In Reply to: Re: Prolo Sclero therapy posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 23:04:58:

You don't have to be in "That bad a shape" to receive prolotherapy. If you want to avoid getting worse, prolotherapy is better than chiropractic as far as I am concerned. Long-term chiropractic leads to a chronic weakness of the ligaments supporting the spine. Most people who go to get prolotherapy are people that have been adjusted too much. Prolo will regrow and strengthen the ligaments which will put your spine back into alignment anyway. Mother nature designed ligaments to keep our bones, joints, spine, and organs in their proper place. If we have a weakened ligament, we get stiff and soar because our muscles tighten up to compensate for the weakened ligament. By getting chiropractic, you are only worsening the problem. You might feel better for a little while, but the problem comes right back. Prolotherapy gets to the source of the probelm, weakened ligaments. It usually takes between 4-6 treatments to fully regrow a ligament but sometimes less or more is needed. I think that this would be the best solution (if it is caused by a weakened ligament). Good luck to you.

Rich



Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 00:36:22:

Hello Everyone,

I have been seeing a Chiropractor for about 2 years on a regular basis (about every 2-4 months depending--typically for my lower back) and have been wondering if there might be any negative long term effects that I should worry about--it always kinda "weirds me out" whenever my DC makes adjustments, particularly in my neck....also (I keep forgetting to ask him this) why do I feel sore the day after he has made an adjustment?? (or two or three or four adjustments... :) ok, so I'm not quite in that bad of shape!)

My DC actually did his internship in an ER, and from what I can tell, is invited all over the country to speak to other DCs, so along with the fact that I've known him personally for more than 10 years, I would trust him with my life, which is more than I can say for any other practitioner that I have ever seen. I know he would never do anything to intentionally cause harm, I'm just wondering if regular visits could cause more harm than good over the *LONG* term.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!!!

JR



Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by
Vince F on September 26, 2000 at 06:19:29:

In Reply to: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 00:36:22:

JR,

Does the Dr, twist/crack your neck ??

I would look into Prolo/Sclero therapy if I had back
problems. I like the dextrose as opposed to saline
treatments because I have seen them work wonders though
never had them myself.

VF



Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 08:03:33:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by Vince F on September 26, 2000 at 06:19:29:

Hi Vince,

Thanks for the post. I did originally go to him for a muscle spasm in my neck (which was so bad, my head was resting sideways on my shoulder--I couldn't move my head much at all without pain--I looked like one of those guys in the Taco Bell commercials!! He remedied the neck spasm with electric shock therapy (I guess that's the right term) by flexing the muscles in my neck to fatigue them and then did an adjustment, which gave almost total immediate relief. Since then he has cracked my neck, although not very often(maybe once in 12 months). Generally, though, he only does adjustments( "cracks" if you will) my middle and lower back--moreoften my lower back.

What is Prolo/Sclero therapy?

Thanks,
JR




Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by
sandy on September 26, 2000 at 08:44:43:

In Reply to: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 00:36:22:

Hi JR,
I'm not sure how you will take this - so feel free to disregard it if it doesn't feel right - but I practice emotional healing, and from my (and other's) experience, the emotional component of lower back problems is invariably a lack of security. Often it's the result of financial problems, but it can also be an indication of lack of emotional security.
Perhaps this is an area you might want to look into further?

Sandy



Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by Paulette on September 26, 2000 at 08:48:51:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 08:03:33:


Hi, JR

The link below might give you some information on Prolo Sclero therapy. I've personally never heard of this therapy and will be reading further as well.

Hope this helps

Take Care Of Yourself



Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects)

Posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 10:40:31:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by sandy on September 26, 2000 at 08:44:43:

Hi Sandy,

Tahnks for the input. Security could be a definite possibility. I come off to others as always confident, but internally, I'm not always sure of myself. I also have a large(albeit managable) amount of Debt, which based on what you said may be playing into things as well.

Any suggestions where to begin?

Thanks a bunch!
JR



Re: Prolo Sclero therapy

Posted by JR on September 26, 2000 at 10:42:23:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by Paulette on September 26, 2000 at 08:48:51:

Hi Paulette,

Thanks for the link!

I'll be sure and read it tonight!

JR



Re: Hand Cracking

Posted by
Doug on September 29, 2000 at 19:33:38:

In Reply to: Re: Is Chiropractic safe (long term effects) posted by Doc Kim on September 27, 2000 at 09:58:16:

HI Doc Kim,

I have psoriatic Arthritis, I often crack my hands, and do have it in my hands (last digit of my right index finger, and another). I think they refer to this as sausage finger or something like that. In addition, I always have quite a bit of cracking in that joint, like I have glass there.

Doug



Re: Hand Cracking

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 30, 2000 at 16:25:26:

In Reply to: Re: Hand Cracking posted by Doug on September 29, 2000 at 19:33:38:

Hi, Doug.

Hope you don't mind my butting in here but I am reminding you that you CAN do something about the psoriasis.

Walt



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