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Just got back from my annual physical with my PCP. I had been eating a primarily vegetarian diet for the past 10 years. Had turkey or fish once or twice a week, stayed away from dairy, no alcohol, had no bad habits other than chocolate.
Since I've been on a very strict low carb, no sugar diet for the past three months I feel great. But I was concerned that all the meat and dairy I was consuming would push my cholesterol level thru the roof.
Amazingly ---my total cholesterol fell from 197 to 150! I was stunned (but very happy!!) By the way-- I eat dozen eggs every week!
Dr. Stoll, I'd love your opinion on how this could happen.
Many thanks-katie
In Reply to: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 13:07:50:
a properly functioning liver can easily keep cholesterol where it should be if it has proper levels of vitamins and minerals to work with.
eggs are not evil. they are one superior food actually !
In Reply to: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 13:07:50:
According to some studies, for example, one published in Psychosomatic Medicine 2000;62, low cholesterol linked to depression, violence, increased risk of stroke. Cholesterol is important as it serves as the precursor molecule for most all of our steroid hormones, such as pregnenolone, DHEA, testosterone, progesterone and estrogen. According to Dr. Mercola, levels much under 150 are probably too low, and an optimum would likely be 200. So, Katie, your original cholesterol level might have been a lot better. However, total cholesterol may not actually mean much.
Why don't you read the following short articles:
- TOTAL CHOLESTEROL ALMOST ALWAYS IRRELEVANT TO HEART DISEASE RISK;
- Five Blood Risk Factors for Coronary Heart Disease ;
- Low Cholesterol Linked to Depression
;
- Low Cholesterol Linked to Stroke Risk.
I would also recommend reading the following several articles about fat: here.
In Reply to: Low cholesterol may not be healthy posted by R. on March 16, 2001 at 16:12:45:
In Reply to: Re: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by leon cavallo on March 16, 2001 at 15:55:20:
Thanks, R. and Leon for your thoughts. The comment about liver function really rang a bell, Leon. I think that is the key-----eliminating sugar really makes a difference in keeping cholesterol where it should be. The Mercola info was very interesting. I am not trying to lower my cholesterol, but I do have Hashimoto's and my numbers have been rising over the years. That's why I was a little concerned that when I added lots of red meat, whole milk and eggs to my diet that it might raise my cholesterol more than I wanted. Don't you think it's strange that it dropped given the amount of fat I'm consuming? Meat every day. Eggs every morning. Make my own mayonnaise now. Have Hollandaise sauce once a week (a stick of butter and 3 egg yolks----that alone should give me a heart attack!)
In Reply to: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 13:07:50:
...if you're type O or B blood, then in my opinion, this makes sense. Check out the book, "Live Right for Your Type"
by Dr. D'Adamo.
In Reply to: Re: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 23:17:28:
Hi Katie,
Would you mind sharing your recipe for mayonnaise? I tried to make it once, but the oil (olive) never thickened. I would like to try it again. Thanks.
Namaste'
Joanie
In Reply to: Re: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by Joanie on March 17, 2001 at 08:56:36:
Joanie,
did you whip the eggs and add the oil slowly while beating
fast, I Believe that is the way it goes. Funny how things
are similar and I have worked making different emulsions.
One was a water/alcohol/oil mix for old, military, propeller
aircraft in the service and the other was making a
latex/oil paint. The paint was thicker and went just like
the mayo did. I really liked the corn oil mayo. I should
make it again since the stuff I have bought doesn't keep
and I stoped buying it.
VF
In Reply to: I know you wanted an answer from Dr. Stoll and I'm sure he'll give it but in the meantime... posted by d.d. on March 17, 2001 at 03:03:48:
yes, good point----I'm type B. So all the meat and dairy sit well with me. Might not work the same for others.
In Reply to: Re: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by Joanie on March 17, 2001 at 08:56:36:
1 whole egg 1/4 tsp. dry mustard
1 T vinegar or lemon juice 1/4 tsp. pepper
1/4 to 1/2 tsp. salt 1 cup oil
Break egg into blender jar or processor bowl. Add mustard, salt, pepper and lemon juice or vinegar. Blend 30 seconds until foamy (or process 2-3 seconds). Gradually add oil a few drops at a time until about 1/2 C. has been added. When mayo has thickened, you can add remaining oil more quickly. If it becomes too thick, add a few drops off lemon juice or vinegar. Correct seasonings.
I use a peanut butter jar with an opening large enough to accomodate a stick blender. Then there's less clean-up. I've experimented with oils and like grapeseed oil the best.
In Reply to: Low cholesterol may not be healthy posted by R. on March 16, 2001 at 16:12:45:
yes !
know why terribly low cholesterol is bad ?? and is a bad sign ?
regular doctors/research is behind the clinical ecologists ...
really low cholesterol is often because of oxidation...FREE RADICAL CASCADE HAS BEGUN !
In Reply to: Re: Low cholesterol may not be healthy posted by leon cavallo on March 17, 2001 at 13:51:07:
A bunch of years ago dr Debacey the heart transplant
specialist was on a show with another Dr debating
cholesterol levels and he caimed that a too low one was bad
and could cause cancer. It was below 160 or 150 that he
vlaimed.
VF
In Reply to: Re: I know you wanted an answer from Dr. Stoll and I'm sure he'll give it but in the meantime... posted by katie on March 17, 2001 at 12:59:54:
Yes, after I remembered you mentioned dairy working out, I was sure you had to be B. You might check out the blood type diet recommended in that book I recommended because you are already seeing that you feel better! And yes, those foods, meat and dairy won't work for everybody...especially if you believe in the blood diet.
In Reply to: Re: I know you wanted an answer from Dr. Stoll and I'm sure he'll give it but in the meantime... posted by d.d. on March 17, 2001 at 20:33:44:
And yes, those foods, meat and dairy won't work for everybody...especially if you believe in the blood diet.
So, if you don't believe in the blood diet, then these foods will work for everybody? I am sure you didn't intend this to sound this way.
In Reply to: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 13:07:50:
Hi, Katie.
The BB helpers had a lot of good information. For ME to add to what they had to say, I would have to have your history as described in the Health Coaching Protocol. If you are willing to share it with everyone, put it on the BB and I will see what I can make of it.
Walt
In Reply to: This sounds funny posted by R. on March 17, 2001 at 22:30:10:
Excuse me R. I was in a rush, but still wanted to take the time to help this person.
If you're eating the wrong foods for your blood type, they will harm you WHETHER you believe in the diet or not. It's just that if you are AWARE of the principles of the diet, you will know what's happening to you and why. If you are not familiar with the diet, you won't BELIEVE that these foods are harmful to the wrong bloodtype, even though they are.
In Reply to: ah the nit picking posted by d.d. on March 18, 2001 at 12:50:12:
like the atkins diet, and the theory that low carbohydrate
dieting affects uric acid levels; cholesterol, HDL, LDL, and
triglyceride levels, plus glucose and insulin levels. Also,
adding Chromium, lecithin, B vitamins, c, GLA, EPA..I have
the eat right for your type book, and I could not follow the
vegetarian diet that was recommended for me. I felt better
following atkins. Could it be that candida, leaky gut was
hollering at me louder than my agricultural ancestors? I
don't know, and as long as I'm feeling better right now, I
don't much care. Maybe in future, when I am more healed I
could try the veg diet, and see if I feel even more
wonderful. My point is I do not feel the high protein is
harming me, and when my body speaks I listen. Also,
BELIEVING in a diet, or anything, does have a profound
effect on its success-there exist quite a few scientific
studies that show this to be true (prayer, meditation
increasing the healing process for example). Maybe the high
protein isn't bothering me right now, because I BELIEVE that
low carbohydrate dieting (and SR etc) is the only way I will
heal myself.
May the higher power bless all artichokes and rib
In Reply to: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 13:07:50:
dr
about 3 weeks ago my masseuse noticed that
my large toe had a black and brown area
underneath the nail (so it looks)
It looks very much like a bruise
but i have not traumaized my foot in any
way i remember
the dark coloring has NOT grown out
or changed shape or faded for 3 weeks
Could this be a melanoma? should i wait
any longer or see a skin specialist?
none of my other toes or (foot) have any other
abnormal symptoms whatsoever....
help
In Reply to: what about different/additional theories? posted by lauri on March 18, 2001 at 14:07:09:
...I haven't tried them all, but I have tried a number of them throughout my life, and this is the only diet that immediately took away my God awful heartburn, and my candida. I am not going to go on some massive crusade here, I am just providing my own experience. Many other people have had phenominal results from the ER4YT diet as well, and some were very sick, and became much better. In my case, there is no way that I could BELIEVE away my heartburn, trust me. And some of those other serious illnesses, they weren't BELIEVED away either. Not that prayer and mind/body connection is extremely powerful, I truly believe that, but here, the diet is responsible. Otherwise, it wouldn't matter what you ate, you could live on cotton candy, if you prayed hard enough!
And yes, for type A's of which you probably are, it is hard. To suddenly have to give up red meat is quite a sacrifice for many of us, but I wouldn't do it if I didn't see the benefits. And knowing what I know from the THREE books Peter's written, you can be poisoning yourself on the inside,and not even feel the effects right away, but that doesn't mean that you're not doing irreparable
harm to yourself. If you feel like you are not getting enough protein, you are probably a non-secretor type A, which means you should have more chicken and fish.
Non secretors don't secrete their blood type antigens into their bodily fluids like secretors do, so their diet is a little different. Look into "Live Right For Yourself", his latest book, where he discusses these differences within the bloodtypes. Also, there are lots of creative recipies that the followers have drummed up, as well as Peter's, and you can get by. When you feel good and know that you are taking care of yourself for the long haul, sometimes the sacrifices aren't so bad after all.
And BTW, you can have artichokes, just not ribs. Bless ya.
In Reply to: there are lots of theories... posted by d.d. on March 19, 2001 at 00:25:02:
nmi
In Reply to: Re: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by Vince F on March 17, 2001 at 09:56:40:
Hi Vince,
Yes, I drizzled the oil into the egg, but nothing happened. I'll keep trying.
Joanie
In Reply to: mayonnaise recipe posted by katie on March 17, 2001 at 13:13:18:
Thanks Katie! Sounds good.
Joanie
In Reply to: thanks, but, I'll stick to atkins. It works for me. nmi posted by lauri on March 19, 2001 at 01:28:22:
I agree with you lauri. I have great results with Atkins, and I go by what works for me. I think d.d. does too (go with what works for her) although she sounds a bit argumentative and seems to put you down when she capitalized "THREE" books or tells you what she thinks your blood type is. She says she is only presenting her experience, but you could have fooled me. Seems to me she is defending her choice and criticizing yours.
In Reply to: Re: thanks, but, I'll stick to atkins. It works for me. nmi posted by Berta on March 19, 2001 at 09:13:02:
nm
In Reply to: thanks, but, I'll stick to atkins. It works for me. nmi posted by lauri on March 19, 2001 at 01:28:22:
nm
In Reply to: BERTA (not your real name, I'm fairly sure) so far you've attacked Rich, and now you're on to me, and all I have done is try to help. You are using this board as a psychological dumping ground for your anger. Anyway, I don't participate in flames so I will not respond any further. nm posted by d.d. on March 19, 2001 at 14:36:14:
I try very hard to remember that email does a very poor
job of posting intent, unless someone is an excellent
writer. It's easy to confuse conviction with bitchiness, or
arrogance. To be honest, my gut response to the caps
and your firm belief in atkins book was to take it a little
personally, because caps feel like YELLING or
SARCASM when you read them, and I can be
oversensitive. I thought you sounded sarcastic about
my comments regarding faith as well, but, I want to
assume you didn't mean this. I don't know who Berta
is, and don't know what posts you are referring to, but I
kind of agreed with her assesment of how your
response read to me (not, 'what you said' to me). I say
this only to point out that, if one is really concerned
about how they come across in a letter form, ie.,
wanting only to be helpful, then the more careful one is
about what one says and how one says it will probably
move one towards that success. I've made this
mistake on the board before, thinking someone is
being spiteful when I didn't know the running story, and
they were just joking around. I'm glad you wish to help,
and I don't like flame shit either. I just want respect for
my life choices, gentle suggestions, positive
reinforcement, and I hope I can do the same for others.
I'm glad you believe in what you're doing, and that it
helped you. I hope you would be glad that what I'm
doing is working for me too. And Berta, hey, thanks for
the support, but you could be wrong. Why not just
assume the best intent, and ignore the rest if you can?
I am working on that stuff myself.
Lauri
In Reply to: BERTA (not your real name, I'm fairly sure) so far you've attacked Rich, and now you're on to me, and all I have done is try to help. You are using this board as a psychological dumping ground for your anger. Anyway, I don't participate in flames so I will not respond any further. nm posted by d.d. on March 19, 2001 at 14:36:14:
qweryty
In Reply to: d.d: forget it. This place is a waste. We know you better than these ass-wipes. Hey Lauri and Berta: when did you both get out of prison? nmi posted by Here's Johnny~! on March 19, 2001 at 18:55:13:
lots of love to you!
In Reply to: want to share my cholesterol story...... posted by katie on March 16, 2001 at 13:07:50:
Katie,
I'm awfully sorry that this thread took the turn it did. I know your questions were sincere, as were my responses. You seemed to be looking for some answers as to why you tolerated meat and dairy so well, and I felt I had a very plausible explanation. I didn't put down anyone elses suggestions, ever, I simply provided mine. And you even said it made sense to you. Look back to the beginning of this thread and you will see my simple and genuine responses to your posts. How nice if it would haved ended there.
But unfortunately a personal attack against me ensued, starting with R., who used the pretence of questioning my sentence structure, and my use of the word "belief". Then Lauri jumped in to say that the blood type diet didn't work for her, and she insuated that maybe it only worked for me because I "believed" it. She went on to say some other quite nasty things later, she had to get more licks in. And finally, BERTA came out of nowhere, with a very very nasty, full-fledged, erroneous, personal attack on me. And now I see R. has dug up some disparaging article about the blood diet -- and the poor thing is still trying his hardest to discredit my self-proven experience -- and even outside of this thread, so this is obviously an attack.
It might very well be that these people are connected in some way, and have a definite agenda, it certainly looks that way. Anyway, I hope this ugliness doesn't discourage you, and I believe you are intelligent enough to see through this manure. Unfortunately, this board can be wretched. I know I was glad to help you if I did, and I will try to in the future if it's appropriate. I remember being impressed by your "tapping" post, and then I felt so bad when I saw you had some sort of disease, I just wanted to help you, especially because I thought I might be able to.
Best of luck,
d.d.
In Reply to: brown/black toenail bed posted by lmc on March 18, 2001 at 18:58:00:
Hi, lmc.
Please post this under a new string and title it something like "Discolored Toenail" so others might be able to find it. By posting it under "want to share my cholesterol story" no one will learn anything.
Walt
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