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Taken from John Hammel of International Advocates for Health Freedom's website
: I would suggest that if anyone is interested in viewing an effective format for political action that they subscribe to moveon.org. Here you will see an organization that is effectively communicating with hundreds of thousand of people and raising tons of money by providing a formate that very busy people can particiape in. What if iahf did something similar? What if petitions were written and provided ready to submit with links to senator and congress webpages, phone numbers etc. What if the issue was reported on clearly, concisely as events unfold with petitions attached. what if opportunity was given though such a website to connect people locally? What if local groups had sister groups in EU to touch base with on a personal level to free up info and flow of ideas? Barbara

Response from John Hammel:
**Barbara- IAHF is a VERY effective forum for addressing the CODEX vitamin issue. IAHF has been working tirelessly to foster a stronger global grass roots movement amongst vitamin consumers and has helped to spawn numerous spin off groups in other countries. These include La Leva di Archimede in Italy, PHARMAPACT in South Africa, ANH in England, Candida International in France, and several others

We are totally DECENTRALIZED which makes it IMPOSSIBLE for us to be bought off or coopted.

Move On has the APPEARANCE of being a "true grass roots" organization like IAHF is, but as is so often the case, appearances can be very deceiving. The fact is that MOVE ON is being financed by billionaire George Sorros, so they're NOT in fact a true grass roots organization at ALL.

When you suggest that IAHF adapt Move On's format for presenting information, you display a serious lack of awareness of the situation we're confronting.

(For the record, I subscribe to Move On's newsletters so am very familiar with their style of presenting information, I make a study of how other groups do things and have been analyzing other groups methods for years.)

The Codex vitamin issue simply does not lend itself to the format Move On uses in their jingoistic propaganda communications.

Secondly,having links to Congress for letter writing is utterly pointless. If you had been paying attention, you would have realized that on March 20, 2001 the Congressional Oversight hearing that I pushed for for 5 years on the Codex vitamin issue in the US House of Representatives was WHITEWASHED.

The FIX is IN. The USA has been SET UP to lose in a future WTO Trade Dispute over the Codex Vitamin issue. Writing to Congress at this point would do ZERO GOOD WHATSOEVER.

The fact is that we CAN'T work through standard governmental channels to address the Codex threat, that approach does NOT WORK due to the immmense power wielded by multinational corporate interests which are controlling governments around the world.

The ONLY chance we have to POSSIBLY stop the Cartel's Juggernaut is to provide the Alliance for Natural Health http://www.alliance-natural-health.org with the funds they need for their legal effort to overturn the EU Food Supplement Directive, and we're doing a GREAT job of doing THAT.

From your glowing endorsement of Move On, you seem to emply that you think we have honest elections in the corporation known as the United States of America.

There are no "countries" all there is are corporations. You live in the corporation of Australia, I live the corporation of the United States. My girlfriend Candace lives in the corporation of Canada.

Read Stephan Ames article on the IAHF website "The American Hallucination: An Indictment of the American Mind" This article exposes "America" for what it ACTUALLY IS: The tip of the Illuminati's SPEAR which is being used to force the whole WORLD into bondage via a global totalitarian state.

Along with Ames article, you need to educate yourself by reading this well written article about how all the elections are rigged via electronic voting machines and computers: http://www.ecotalk.org/Pandora'sBlackBox.htm

There is absolutely no point in ANY American going to the polls to vote this coming November.

The only RATIONAL thing to do in the face of the information in the above articles is for EVERYONE to VOTE WITH THEIR FEET, by STAYING AWAY FROM THE POLLS, and to cite as their REASON--- THIS ARTICLE
http://www.ecotalk.org/Pandora'sBlackBox.htm (and Stephan Ames article also)

"Move On" ??? Don't make me LAUGH!! How can you "move on" when both Bush, and Kerry are Skull and Bones? Do you realize what Skull and Bones IS?

Its the Illuminati Council's primary coordinating body on US Soil.The Council controls both horses in every Presidential race, and they insert whichever one they want, and have been doing this for YEARS.

Move On pisses me off. The REASON they piss me off is because they foster the ILLUSION that it makes a DIFFERENCE whether or not you vote, and they foster the ILLUSION that the Democrats are any better than the damn Republicans, when the fact is that both parties are riddled with one worlders who want to scuttle America in order to force us into the Free Trade Area of the Americas.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again- the Codex Vitamin issue is NOT a simple matter that CAN be explained concisely. Its a COMPLEX matter that REQUIRES STUDY to understand.

The BEST information pieces we have are these two articles:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/2003_preprint_eu_01.htm

and

http://www.thehealthcrusader.com/pgs/article-0104-ban.shtml

We are developing a bigger and bigger network in the USA amonst alternative practitioners who are in turn assisting us in bringing more vitamin consumers into our grass roots battle.

Serafina Corsello, MD has just posted this excellent Codex Red Alert on her website, and more doctors will be copying it

http://www.corsello.com/politics/politics_red_alerts.htm

We're going to win this war the old fashioned way, any way we CAN. Its important for you to understand that to win you have to hammer at the weakest spot in the Cartel's wall, and the weakest spot is the EU FSD. It CAN be overturned in court. ANH has the best lawfirm in Europe in their corner, and we ARE going to get into court, but it takes DONATIONS which we ARE successfully generating.

Hi John, this is an interesting exchange, and I totally agree with you about Move On. Any so called 'freely spoken' political group that denounces political corruption without ever once so much as mentioning the death grip that the pharmaceutical giants have on all the governments of the world is in my opinion NOT a freely spoken, freely thinking group at all, but quite simply another diversion of peoples' attention to matters that will detract from the real reasons our human rights are being obliterated. I consider their pious propaganda to be totally hypocrytical for this reason.

Love Emma Holister
France
www.CandidaInternational.org

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