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In Reply to: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? (NMI) posted by Rosemarie on January 17, 2000 at 08:04:06:
In case you have not seen it, check out Walt's Cure For The Common Cold Article (linked below)
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? (NMI) posted by Robot Responder on January 17, 2000 at 08:51:51:
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In Reply to: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? (NMI) posted by Rosemarie on January 17, 2000 at 08:04:06:
Good question, Rosemarie!
First, by practicing wellness (even though I have inherited severe, insulin resistant diabetes--which, statistically, reduces my immunity by at least 90%) I have not had a cold of flu for more than 20 years. THAT is the first thing to do: don't get it. Other adjunctive preventives are in the chapter of my book about "colds" and on the homepage (abbreviated).
Next, and this is another "Fleecing of America", is the fact that I was prescribing Amantidine for influenza treatment AND prevention, 30 years ago. It has been used VERY successfully all over the world for at least 50 years.
This is a great example of the conventional medical monopoly policy: If there is something very successful for something, that has becomne too cheap to make a killing on, you gradually withdraw it from common knowledge and tinker with the molecule enough that it can be reintroduced as a new drug and patented. The new drug for influenza, released this year, is a perfect example of that. Amantidine is the parent molecule. Of course, even though knowledgable docs can still prescribe amantidine, it is not emphasized in medical school and is not detailed in the office by the drug salesman. The money is in the new expensive one.
I do not even know what it costs but I am sure it is at least 50 times the Amantidiune cost. I would educate my doc to order Amantitdine for me and keep some around the house (This stuff does not tend to get old but I would keep it in a sealed dark bottle in the refrigerator anyhow. It might be years before you needed it again. At the first sign of the flu (does not work for colds) I would start 2 capsules of 200 milligrams each twice a day for 5 days. Does that instruction sound familiar? It is the same for the new drug based on this parent molecule. If I was just exposed, I would use half that dose for the same length of time to prevent it.
Of course, your pharmacist might not even carry Amantidine--he only orders wht the docs use. He gets to keep a % of the sale price and the more expensive the drug is the more he likes it. If you have an old-fashioned drug store in your town, it would likely be there if it is anywhere.
Finally, I would drink lots of fluids, and take about 4 grams of esterified vitamin C twice a day when symnptoms show.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2000 at 12:28:32:
First, by practicing wellness (even though I have inherited severe, insulin resistant diabetes--which, statistically, reduces my immunity by at least 90%) I have not had a cold of flu for more than 20 years.
BS!!! I dont believe this. If this were true you'd be a medical miracle.
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Amy Vanderbilt on January 19, 2000 at 01:45:52:
Mind if I ask your age Dr Stoll?
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2000 at 12:28:32:
First, by practicing wellness (even though I have inherited severe, insulin resistant diabetes--which, statistically, reduces my immunity by at least 90%) I have not had a cold of flu for more than 20 years. THAT is the first thing to do: don't get it. Other adjunctive preventives are in the chapter of my book about "colds" and on the homepage (abbreviated).
Oh yes everyone but the book now so you too can keep the flu and colds at bay.Oh please. Dr Stoll, why dont you state here on the BB your 'secrets' to 'not' getting colds and flu. That WOULD be stupid, then no one would purchase ' the book of gold'. What a scam.
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2000 at 12:28:32:
Doctor Stoll I purchased your book, and you talk in that book the way you talk on this board. Avoiding the actual answers to these people REAL questions. You dance around everything. No wonder why you lost your license to practice medicine.
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Elaine Bousweirt RN on January 19, 2000 at 01:50:09:
Oh yes everyone but the book now so you too can keep the flu and colds at bay.Oh please. Dr Stoll, why dont you state here on the BB your 'secrets' to 'not' getting colds and flu. That WOULD be stupid, then no one would purchase ' the book of gold'. What a scam.
Don't buy the book. Read how to prevent colds which has been posted on this website for years. For reasons on why to buy the book, read our Book FAQ.
Do you think you could find a more healthy pasttime than figuring out new names under which to make inflammatory posts with no substance? Why are you so angry?
Bill
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Amy Vanderbilt on January 19, 2000 at 01:45:52:
Amy,
What POSSIBLE reason would I have for lying on this BB?
I have had the insulin resistant diabetes (average 150 units of insulin a day) since 1980. The article about preventing respiratory viruses is on the homepage. Anyone can try it for themselves without sending any money to me. How to do wellness is spread all over this 'site and is also free to anyone.
I still, occasionally, feel a "cold" coming on and then I immediately do the vitamin C thing (also described on this BB many places and free to anyone) and within 12-18 hours the symptoms are all gone. To ME, that is not counted as a cold or flu.
Someone on this string accused me of using the BB to sell my book. If anyone cares to look, they will see that I only recommend my book when it is the easiest way for that person to get the information they need. ANYONE willing to take the time to find it, can get most of the information free on this BB. I end up recommending my book to less than 1 in 20 of people who ask for information on this BB.
I am not here to spoon-feed anyone. Those who are satisfied with the medical care they are getting are on the wrong BB. I only open doors. What people DO with that information is up to them.
I am not going to bother answering all the Doubting Thomases that felt the need to contribute to this string. I expanded this response to include their notes.
"Never utter these words: 'I do not know this, therefore it is false. One must study to know: Know to understand: Understand to judge.' "
----Apothegm of Narada
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreampt of in your philosophy."
----Hamlet (Shakespeare)
This is what I get for being totally open, frank and honest with my personal response to a personal question????
Keep your viral infections or stop having them. It IS up to you. Ask anyone who has tried it.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll: If YOU had the flu, how would you treat it? ARCHIVE under "cold". posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2000 at 12:28:32:
Walt, are you familiar with these alternative medicine treatments? Do you believe them to be effective?
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"Oscillococcinum is the number one over-the-counter flu medication in France, where it has been used for over 60 years. The medication, a dilute extract of duck liver and heart, comes in granule form. It's believed to indirectly stimulate the body's immune system and other defenses, according to pharmacist Christophe Merville, west coast branch manager of Boiron, a French manufacturer of homeopathic remedies."
A study in the April 1998 issue of the British Homeopathic Journal reported that 17.4 percent of those taking oscillococcinum were symptom-free the day after treatment began, compared to 6.6 percent of those taking placebos. In a similar study published in the March 1989 issue of the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 24.6 percent of those with mild to moderate symptoms had recovered by the second day, compared to 11.9 percent of those taking placebos. No significant side effects were found in either study."
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Elderberry extract contains a high percentage of three flavonoids -- naturally occurring plant substances -- that have been shown to possess antiviral properties. A study published in the winter 1995 issue of the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine examined the flu-fighting abilities of Sambucol, a commercial elderberry extract preparation.
In the study, scientists found that Sambucol interfered with the growth of multiple strains of both influenza A and B viruses in cell cultures. In human tests, 35 healthy subjects were given four tablespoons of Sambucol daily for three days, and researchers recorded no side effects. Twenty-seven subjects were then given either Sambucol or a placebo for three days during a flu outbreak at an Israeli kibbutz. Children took two tablespoons daily and adults took four. None of the study participants had received a flu shot.
Fully 90% of those taking Sambucol were completely cured within three days, while most of those who took the placebo needed six days to recover."
In Reply to: What about Oscillococcinum and Sambucol? posted by vickir on January 21, 2000 at 12:02:59:
Hi, vickir.
I really appreciate your bringing this up. I am not a good enough Herbologist of Homeopath to respond. However, we have a link to a herbologist in our links page and Dr Kim is a Homeopath. Let's see what he has to say.
If I had my training to do over, I would not have been an MD. Their allopathic paradigm is MUCH too simplistic. I would have been a Chiropracter/Naturopath with a special interest in Homeopathy.
As my dad always used to say: "Ve get too soon oldt and too late smardt."
Walt
In Reply to: Re: What about Oscillococcinum and Sambucol? (Too soon oldt and too late smardt.) DOC KIM? posted by Walt Stoll on January 22, 2000 at 15:20:14:
Sounds like your dad vas no dumkopf.
BTW, are you acquainted with a holistic MD named Lawrence Cohen in San Antonio who practices homeopathy?
VR
In Reply to: Re: ... too late smardt posted by vickir on January 22, 2000 at 16:18:23:
Yes, vickir.
A good man and advanced clinician.
As you know, for 10 years, AZ has had the most enlightened licensing system for physicians in the USA. In retrospect, I should have gone there to practice when they asked me to come. I would still have my license but I would never have started this website.
At least I wouldn't have to listen to those shallow thinkers, on this BB, who are convinced that a licensing board would NEVER take the license from a good physician.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: ... too late smardt posted by Walt Stoll on January 23, 2000 at 10:19:00:
Walt,
I had surmised that AZ's licensing board must be more enlightened than many states'-- as evidenced by the fact that Andy Weil and Ron Kennedy (the two I'm familiar with) still have their licenses despite being forward-thinking physicians. Weil is, as you have mentioned, very circumspect in what he says. I've never read anything by him that was even slightly disrepectful of the status quo. Kennedy, on the other hand, is quite outspoken and pulls no punches, so I figured the AZ licensing board had to be relatively tolerant of nonconventional treatments and viewpoints.
To my mind, licensing boards in general have about as much credibility as the FDA (which today is telling us that Propulsid has been damaging patients' hearts since it was approved in 1993). But don't take B-6 or folic acid to lower your homocysteine levels! That might hurt you!
Don't let the dinosaurs get you down.
VR
In Reply to: Losing License Becoming a Mark of Integrity and Courage posted by vickir on January 25, 2000 at 13:11:56:
Thanks, VR.
I needed that!
Namaste`
Walt
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