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Costochondritis

Posted by
Patty on January 31, 2001 at 16:36:15:


Hello Dr Stoll,
I have had Costochondritis for 14 years now. In the
beginning I would have the pain very rarely, now
it seems like I have it constantly. I know I don't
help it by doing the things I do. There are certain
things I do that aggravate it. Sometimes it hurts so
bad I want to cry !!! My doctor would only prescribe
medicine like Aleve for this, now I believe my body
has built up a tolerance for Aleve and it no longer
helps me. It is just so aggravating !!! Is there
anything else I can bedsides injections. I find that
lying down helps it, but they do let you do that at
work..Will it ever go away or is this something I
will have forever? My mother also has it. Thank you
for your help !!!!

Patty



Re: Costochondritis

Posted by Terry on February 01, 2001 at 02:37:59:

In Reply to: Costochondritis posted by Patty on January 31, 2001 at 16:36:15:

Patty, purchase some Ahhhloe Ice, go to the link below, read all about it, use ice, and join the support group that is listed on the site. SR will NOT I repeat will NOT get rid of Costo. Email me if I can help. Ive suffered for 2 years.



Re: Costochondritis

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 02, 2001 at 12:08:11:

In Reply to: Costochondritis posted by Patty on January 31, 2001 at 16:36:15:

Hi, Patty.

Do not listen to Terry. One should at least try something before recommending to others NOT to do it!

Have you been to the archives about costochondritis? There are many testimonials there of people who have done SR and relieved their costo (also in testimonials and in bracing, etc.).

Walt



Re: Costochondritis..You are dead wrong Dr Stoll

Posted by Christine on February 03, 2001 at 00:59:16:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis posted by Terry on February 01, 2001 at 02:37:59:

Patty, SR will not CURE costochondritis. I am a medical secretary for an orthopedic surgeon, and I too have suffered with costo for years. He and I have discussed this at length. SR will help, to a point, costo is torn and inflamed cartilage on the ribs, SR will not heal this, it will make you less stressful, stress does make costo worse. Try the Ahhhloe and the support group, I have done both and I have a flare up only when I bring it on myself by lifting/carrying etc... Ice helps too! Just go slow, you will see the pain disappear quick. Just think before you lift. To heal it you need to rest a lot, and also very low range of motion exercises. I think Dr Stoll is growing senile, his answer to every medical problem is SR, he is dead wrong.



Re: Costochondritis..You are dead wrong Dr Stoll...You're a quack! Jenna is right

Posted by Amy on February 03, 2001 at 01:01:52:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis..You are dead wrong Dr Stoll posted by Christine on February 03, 2001 at 00:59:16:

Skilled Relaxation is not a cure all, I very well see now why you lost your license. This board is the sole purpose of selling your pic. How sad. I guess no pention when the old license is pulled...'eh Dr Stoll?



Re: Costochondritis

Posted by Alicia Jenson M.D. on February 03, 2001 at 01:20:24:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis posted by Walt Stoll on February 02, 2001 at 12:08:11:

I received a link to this site from a colleague. This is a joke. This site should be wiped off the net. An unlicensed doctor giving out medical advice without seeing the individual. In reality, giving advice period!
Patty, here is a brief explanation of CC and what would benefit you at this time:

Costo is an inflammation of the rib cartilage, and is sometimes diagnosed by pushing on the sternum, (area at the top where your ribs join) or by pushing on any sore spot on your ribs. Either should cause intense pain. *However*, not everyone with CC will respond like that.

In the beginning, costo is usually worse, it feels like there is an elephant sitting on your chest, it hurts to breathe, ribs hurt all over with intermittent sharp, stabbing pains, and usually a few "sore spots" on your ribs, that you would faint if someone poked you there. You might also feel like you are having a heart attack. Eventually, it might go down to a dull, but constant ache, or simply the feeling of sore ribs. It hurts to wear a bra, and different motions, like picking a child up from the floor, can cause a flare up, with intense pain. When it is a chronic condition, it tends to wax and wane, come and go. It might be better for a while, then you will reach for something in the wrong position and bam!, it is right back again.
Stress can make it worse, like most health conditions. Stress causes the nerves to be more on edge and tightens the muscles, both of which trigger our CC pain. SR will help, a little, but it's not a cure all. I have found that the pain increases quite a bit in stressful situation versus non stress times. With stress our bodies go into their fight or flight reaction, which is why some doctors put us on relaxing types of medication so that our bodies won't go into that reaction, raising the pain level.

The following work very well for the relief of costochondritis:
Glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate (heals cartilage)
Ginger Root (inflammation)
Evening Primrose Oil (inflammation)
Bromelain (inflammation)
Vitamin C (boosts immune system)
Vitamin E (anti-oxidant, inflammation)
Eating fatty fish, such as salmon or sardines for their Omega-3 oils (inflammation)
White Willow Bark (inflammation)
Goldenseal (inflammation, cleansing, good for viral)
Echinacea-(boosts immune system, take for two weeks, two weeks off, etc., will not work as well if taken continuously)
Kava Kava (calming)
Valerian Root (calming, helps sleep)
Grape Seed Extract (antioxidant)

In reference to what 'Terry' posted is very good advice. Ahloe Ice is an excellent topical treatment to reduce pain, a good costchondritis support group is a good way to share with others exactly what you are going through and it will help you to learn what they deal with. Support groups, most of them, are very therapeutic. Patty I strongly suggest you see your doctor, he/she can help you a lot more than the advice of an unlicensed doctor. Good Luck.



Re: Costochondritis

Posted by B.B. on February 03, 2001 at 01:25:20:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis posted by Alicia Jenson M.D. on February 03, 2001 at 01:20:24:


Alicia,

You failed to point out that some of these chest pains may not be due to cardiac or costochondritis as well. There could be other factors which you're failing to mention as well. An informed m.d would have pointed the other factors out as well.

You mentioned some of the very same things which Dr Stoll has mentioned on numerous times, in addition to having them check with their doctors. This was not mentioned as well by yourself.



Re: Costochondritis BB?

Posted by Connie on February 03, 2001 at 20:55:12:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis posted by B.B. on February 03, 2001 at 01:25:20:

I read every post on this entire site pertaining to costo, and not once did Dr Stoll mention what you said BB.

You mentioned some of the very same things which Dr Stoll has mentioned on numerous times, in addition to having them check with their doctors. This was not mentioned as well by yourself.





Re: Costochondritis BB? Connie

Posted by B.B. on February 04, 2001 at 09:08:08:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis BB? posted by Connie on February 03, 2001 at 20:55:12:


Connie,

Please read through some of the archives as it's virtually impossible to read all of the posts within a week. go to the homepage as well and click onto some of the available links.



Re: Costochondritis (Archive in philosophy.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 05, 2001 at 11:55:37:

In Reply to: Re: Costochondritis posted by Alicia Jenson M.D. on February 03, 2001 at 01:20:24:

Hi, deluded md.

What do YOU think causes costochondritis??????

If you had read "Why my license was revoked." you would know that there are now 12 states (and Canada) that have passed laws that would have protected me from them. My problem was not that I did not know what was right but that the 19th century paradigm of medicine had not yet caught up with me. I never had any patients complain, it was always generated by the board. I never had any trouble with the board until I got a Chiropractor in my office. What do you think of Chiropractors??

Do you really think that costochondritis is caused by a deficiency of any of the stuff that you have listed?? Of course not! They are just more temporary ways to treat the symptoms. Look at the testimonials of people who have used only SR for their costochondritis or don't you believe in
"anecdotal evidence"! What do you think got THEM well?

Feel free to contact me with your apology in 10 (or 100) years when you catch up with complementary medicine. The NIH, alone, will prove you wrong IF you keep up with anything.

Instead of advertizing your ignorance, why not spend a little time changing your paradigm to the 21st century:

"It ain't so much the things you don't know that get you in trouble. It is the things you think you know that just ain't so.
Artimus Ward (1834-1867)

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."

--Tolstoy

The only reason I have taken the time to respond to YOU is in the hope that you MIGHT have enough of an open mind to at least think about it rather than going off half cocked.

Walt




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