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Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-)

Posted by
RocketHealer Jim++ on May 19, 1999 at 09:17:04:

From various books, etc. I've learned that the most desirable way to breathe is thru one's nose, day and night, whether resting or exercising madly.

Lately, when I've been going to sleep, I've noticed a tension involved in shutting my mouth, as contrasted in just letting it fall open. Since breathing thru my nose is the "best", I gently close my mouth and try to hold it that way while relaxing my tongue and NOT letting my teeth touch)till I get to sleep. Otherwise, I wake up in the night with a very dry uncomfortable throat.

Comments? Suggestions? Whatever?



Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-)

Posted by
Sara W on May 19, 1999 at 11:49:06:

In Reply to: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-) posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on May 19, 1999 at 09:17:04:

Hi Jim--

I've read with interest many of your comments and questions on this bulletin board. I am new here and have searched the archives...

Can yoy tell me why it is important NOT to let your teeth touch?

I bet you were looking for suggestions instead of questions, oh well!




Re: Breathing

Posted by deanna on May 20, 1999 at 01:27:36:

In Reply to: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-) posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on May 19, 1999 at 09:17:04:

In yoga, you are supposed to breathe through the nose, not the mouth. It has a very calming affect on you.



Re: Keeping my mouth shut - it's a TMJ thing

Posted by
RocketHealer Jim++ on May 20, 1999 at 03:44:53:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-) posted by Sara W on May 19, 1999 at 11:49:06:

It's related to TMJ. See the TMJ article and/or the archives.



Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 20, 1999 at 10:48:20:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-) posted by Sara W on May 19, 1999 at 11:49:06:

Hi, Sara.

Beyond the "TMJ thing", when the teeth touch the skull bone pumping mechanism (that provides 75% of the nutrition--including oxygen--to the brain) stops. Brief stopping is normal but chronic teeth touching is a disaster regarding reserves to deal with stresses. Reference, Cranial Osteopathy.

All healing traditions have properly recommended nose breathing for health (except, of course, the all-knowing allopathic paradigm).

Walt



Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Another candidate for the Glossary

Posted by
RocketHealer Jim++ on May 20, 1999 at 12:17:26:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-) posted by Walt Stoll on May 20, 1999 at 10:48:20:

Thanks Walt, for clarifying this. I was thinking about the bone pumping/not pumping effect, but I could not put it down like you did. So I guess the TMJ answer was a bit of a cop-out. Thanks.

Now to figure out how to word this for the Glossary :-) Seems a never-ending repository.



Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Question

Posted by
Sara W on May 20, 1999 at 12:38:29:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Not what you think! :-) posted by Walt Stoll on May 20, 1999 at 10:48:20:

Walt,

Thanks for the explanation. I trust what you said, though I do not fully understand it.

So, during the day when we are not chewing our food, we should make an effort to keep our teeth from touching? So, any suggestions on how to do this in the most relaxing way? Is this another reason chewing gum is unhealthy???

BTW, I have been at work on the tear duct situation with my 2 year old. I actually have a young physician friend. She is a typical med school graduate, but for some reason she really likes me. I am hoping I can give her a copy of your book. (We will be going on vacation together during the fall...) I asked her today the very question you gave me, AND IT WORKED! She said, "IF IT WERE MY CHILD..." then proceeded to tell me the only person in the area she would trust was an ENT in St Louis. She described him exactly as you defined a good ENT. THANKS!!!!!!



Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Question

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 21, 1999 at 12:02:12:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Question posted by Sara W on May 20, 1999 at 12:38:29:

Hi, Sara.

Congratulations on your success. Now! Why do not ALL "Health Educators" teach this????

I am in the middle of coauthoring a textbook on Health Education Ethics. Your example would make a good one!

I do not think chewing guin is "unhealthy" unless it is sugar or aspartame based for the sweetness. Actually, it might help the TMJ thing.

I know of NO easy way to "break a habit" and that is just what is needed here until the total body bracing has been dealt with.

Walt



Health Education Ethics book by Walt

Posted by
Mike Kramer on May 21, 1999 at 13:55:33:

In Reply to: Re: Keeping my mouth shut - Question posted by Walt Stoll on May 21, 1999 at 12:02:12:

Walt:

What is Health Education Ethics? It could be about:

1. how to educate healthcare professionals in the ethics of caring for the health of others, or

2. the professional ethics of those who educate healthcare professionals, or

3. the professional ethics of those healthcare professionals who educate the rest of us, or

4. something else.

I would be very eager to hear what you are thinking on these lines.

From your postings I have often heard you say that most conventional physicians are perpetuators of a system that places the physicians' material interests ahead of the patients' health needs.

Suppose we assume that a decent healthcare ethics would make the health interests of the patient primary. Today in the U.S. there are two powerful forces at play which appear to block the realization of a decent healthcare ethics. The two obstacles are closely related: politics and economics.

Politics

The government tightly controls who can practice medicine, work in hospitals, etc. The laws which stipulate these controls were bought fair and square by a powerful economic force: the medical industry. So the laws, which are a result of a political process, were put in place because of the economic needs of the medical industry.

Economics

Walt, you said the other day that you are blunt. Well, let's be blunt! Healthcare is basically distributed by ability to pay. Those who can pay more, get more. Those who can pay less, get less. There are always rare exceptions (Walt, Dr. Dave) but generally the economic behavior of physicians is no different than the economic behavior of anyone else. They don't give their products or services away. They exchange them for money. More money is better than less money.

As long as healthcare is distributed primarily by the free market, buyers of healthcare will have to be like buyers of used cars--very suspicious of what they're getting. If I am a rational buyer of any good or service, I can never assume that the person from whom I am buying has my interests at heart. The whole reason people sell is to help themselves, not the buyers. Of course effective sellers must *seem* as if they have the interests of the buyers at heart. They can sell more that way. But it wouldn't be economically prudent to be truly concerned with the buyer. Rather, they should be concerned with getting the buyer to buy.

I think that what needs to be changed is not the ethics the healthcare professionals adhere to, but the material incentives they are given.

Perhaps we could tie their remuneration to the patients' improvement. The better the patient does, the better the doctor makes out. This still assumes that doctors are motivated fundamentally by greed. We are merely trying to create the right reinforcements so that their selfishness will lead them to help others. But perhaps this is the best that we can hope for. And there is still the question of distribution of services; those who pay less won't get as well as those who can pay more.

The distribution problem could be solved by having national health insurance. Changes in the laws could change who is allowed to practice medicine. A code of ethics could be a code of behavior. If it was enforced, it could determine how doctors behaved. But I think that if someone has ethics, she or he has a mindset. How can you make people truly care about others in an economy where self-interest is rewarded and caring is punished?

Walt, you are so well-placed to teach us all about healthcare ethics. You committed economic suicide by resisting the governmentally-sanctioned professional organizations, by caring more about patients than money, and, now, by giving away your knowledge for free. You have as clear a view as anyone of what a caring healthcare system could look like and what's wrong with the one we have.


As Rockethealer Jim said the other day, now I'll get off my soapbox.

Mike



Re: Health Education Ethics book by Walt (Archive in Philosophy)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 22, 1999 at 11:05:12:

In Reply to: Health Education Ethics book by Walt posted by Mike Kramer on May 21, 1999 at 13:55:33:

Thanks, Mike, for the thoughtful contribution.

The main reason this text is being co-authored is precisely because of the points you brought up. For much too long has the "Profession" of Health Education and the "profession" of health delivery been kept sundered from each other. Dr Read is one of the formost Health Educators in the country and has been for more than 30 years. I see myself as one of the foremost patient educators in the country & have been for more than 30 years. If WE cannot come up with a significant contribution to the literature about ethics, we have only ourselves to blame.

I SINCERELY appreciate any thoughtful contributions as you have offered here. "Everyone is smarter than anyone!"

I am gratified to hear from someone who knows where it is at.

Namaste` Walt



Re: Health Education Ethics book by Walt

Posted by
vickir on May 24, 1999 at 12:34:59:

In Reply to: Health Education Ethics book by Walt posted by Mike Kramer on May 21, 1999 at 13:55:33:

Mike, part of your message hit a particularly sore spot with me: "Healthcare is basically distributed by ability to pay. Those who can pay more, get more. Those who can pay less, get less....More money is better than less money."
This is a shift in topic, but it disturbs me that people who have little money are just as disadvantaged (perhaps more so) if they want to follow Walt's teachings than if they take what they can get from the medical "establishment." That is, it takes MONEY to eat a whole foods diet, take the right kinds of supplements, get the necessary lab tests, get "rolfed," etc, etc. Even paying for health insurance or HMO doesn't really help since most of them don't cover anything that smacks of (gasp) "quackery" (i.e., nonconventional methods).
A related problem for the financially challenged is that they aren't so likely to even KNOW about the things they should be doing for their health. Who is TEACHING them? Do they still have health classes in the schools? What do they teach? You can bet they're not teaching about whole foods or skilled relaxation. Just the "food pyramid" and maybe the need to avoid stress ("take time to laugh during the day).
Okay, that's MY soapbox. Have a nice day, folks.
vickir



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