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Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

34 y/o female. Only had two cavities that stemmed from my childhood and wearing braces - probably couldn't brush well enough back then. Dentist recently found 3 cavities all at the same time - I go every 6 months for a teeth cleaning and was utterly shocked to say the least! I LOVE my teeth, brush, floss, and follow all "healthy teeth and gums protocol". How can this be? Is this a sign of age, could wine be causing this based on the sugars? Looking to see what else I can be doing to be preventative so that I don't get any more...could this be a sign of something more serious or is it just "a cavity is a cavity" type of thing?
Thank you!
R



Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by Jennifer [18.209] on January 16, 2004 at 12:03:27:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

If I were you, I would have another dentist confirm the 3 cavities.



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Posted by J. [6.336] on January 16, 2004 at 12:16:25:

In Reply to: Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by Jennifer [18.209] on January 16, 2004 at 12:03:27:

same advice from me...had a dentist tell me I needed certain things done and when I went to the second dentist some of those things weren't even mentioned.

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I thought the same thing but...

Posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 13:36:46:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

have you ever had a cavity? they poke you with this instrument and if you have a cavity it literally sticks in your tooth like you've got gum in there - this did happen in all 3 teeth so I'm not doubting my dentist. What I am concerned about is having 3 cavities and what can I do to prevent them better since I'm obviously not doing a good enough job! :(



Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by Sapphire [422.221] on January 16, 2004 at 13:52:06:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

What type of foods to you eat? I read an article that said potato chips are one of the worst offenders as to causing cavities. They get really sticky and so glom onto the teeth. Sweets of course are bad. I think there is a lot written in the archives on cavities. Also, some people do seem prone to cavities and must brush after every meal unless they are eating only things like meat and vegetables.... non-carb foods.



Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by Sapphire [422.221] on January 16, 2004 at 13:53:36:

In Reply to: Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by Sapphire [422.221] on January 16, 2004 at 13:52:06:

Non-starchy vegetables, that is.

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by DonnaW [302.29] on January 16, 2004 at 14:14:06:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

Hi Rachel,

In addition to the foods you eat, you need to take a look at any medications you might be taking. I know there are many that will cause changes in your teeth/gums. Just a thought. . .

Donna

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by ANN [407.489] on January 16, 2004 at 15:12:37:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

Hi, I agree with Jennifer , because my kids go to the dentist every 6 months to a year and one time my dentist was out for vacation and had another one filled in. And he said that 2 of my kids had cavitys that needed to be filled in their molars. He did x-rays etc, the check up the whole thing. My kids never complained of any thing on their teeth so I waited about a month and went back to see the regular dentist and guess what they both had no cavitys. That really upset me that this guy was willing to drill my kids teeth and charge me for something not there. Of course I complained, so if you think you are doing what you are supose to maybe go get another opinion couldnt hurt . Just tell them you are in for a check up and dont say what the other dentist said. see what happens



Re: I thought the same thing but...

Posted by Nutmeg [86.58] on January 16, 2004 at 15:49:29:

In Reply to: I thought the same thing but... posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 13:36:46:

Hi Rachel,

Consider using a Sonicare toothbrush once a day (2 minutes each, top and bottom) and a HydroFloss unit, daily.

Also, when you have these cavities filled, consider using only non-amalgam filling materials.

I think dentists just miss things sometimes. I changed dentists last year, and when I went to the new one he found some decay that the old dentist had missed a month or two earlier. You might just have an average dentist, not a really, really good one.

Nutmeg

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by Hope [1371.1] on January 16, 2004 at 16:04:50:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

I have always brushed, flossed, used scope, etc and I still get cavities. Some people are just really prone to get them and it seems to me that mine increased with age. Good luck :)

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll/anyone: REVERSE cavities:basic conditions to heal teeth

Posted by leon cavallo [1486.20] on January 16, 2004 at 22:48:03:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

hi

i was lucky to have a wise dentist, even though he was thoroughly endoctrinated. once i had not visited the dentist for about seven years (ugh-- i know!). it was pure serendipity to learn i had NO cavaties. the wise tooth man explained that i must have a favorable balance of the major minerals (calcium, magnesium, potassium sodium) and the accompanying good health this would bring. essentially, we can re-interperate this to mean that my saliva and i were NON-acidic, acid condtions being that dysfunction-inviting condition for all sorts of things, but also for cavaties.

in her book, hulda clark has more info about this and how to reverse cavities with supplements and topical tooth applications without FLUORIDE. It's THE CURE FOR ALL DISEASES, 1995. ALso, Dr Richard Schulze (nd) has a program for doing the same with herbs. ALthough Schulze is big on the special tooth cleaning device Water Pik, both of their approaches focus on the background conditions that can set the stage for dental problems.

i might be trying this myself.



Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by Vince F [51.37] on January 17, 2004 at 01:23:20:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

if your system goes acidic, it can cause cavities. They say
that calcium moves in the bones so I guess the teeth also
by acid in our systems and with too much the calcium moves
out of our body.

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. (Archive in dental

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on January 17, 2004 at 08:16:23:

In Reply to: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by rachel [145.83] on January 16, 2004 at 11:51:25:

Hi, Rachel.

Read up on the finction of microtublules and their effect upon cavities later in life.

Serious wellness will stop this within a year.

Let us know what you learn and how you do.

Walt

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll/anyone: REVERSE cavities:basic conditions to heal teeth

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on January 17, 2004 at 09:05:34:

In Reply to: Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll/anyone: REVERSE cavities:basic conditions to heal teeth posted by leon cavallo [1486.20] on January 16, 2004 at 22:48:03:

Thanks, Leon.

Microtubules.

Walt



Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts..

Posted by Marion [1238.10] on January 17, 2004 at 18:36:19:

In Reply to: Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll, and anyone else who has thoughts.. posted by ANN [407.489] on January 16, 2004 at 15:12:37:

Hi, Ann - I can attest to that; i.e. getting a second opinion about cavities. when we moved from one city to another, I went to a dentist in our neighborhood whom someone had recommended. None of my children had ever had a cavity. This new dentist x-rayed and showed me the x=rays. I kid you not - each child had at least six cavities?! Before I had them filled, I talked to a neighbor who had been to him and said that her two children always had about 10 cavities (this is all in baby teeth).
So, I decided to consult with a pediatric dentist. He found no cavities! There was no way I could expose the other dentist - ( tried, but he was well-known, and as far as Iknow is still in business. But, I did tell my neighbor and everyone else I knew to be very careful and to be sure to get a second opinion. One followed my advice....
Since then, my children have continued to have very strong teeth (they take after their father -not me!) and have had few cavities. The dentist can easily show you x-rays of someone else's teeth. I hate to be cynical, but I feel sure that's what happened.

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Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll/anyone: REVERSE cavities...on miscrotubules, found info

Posted by leon cavallo [1042.20] on January 18, 2004 at 06:07:29:

In Reply to: Re: Cavities - Dr. Stoll/anyone: REVERSE cavities:basic conditions to heal teeth posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on January 17, 2004 at 09:05:34:

thank you Dr Stoll

http://www.dental-site.itgo.com/glossary.htm#MM
the best concise def i can find in a dental sense is from above.

Microtubules are the largest filament in the cytoskeleton. they are hollow tubes along which cell prosucts are condicted long distances. for example, neurines transport out neuritransmitter substances along the axons to distant synapses, inside miscrotubules.

sounds to me like the traditional chinese medicine connectors of teeth to distant organs concept in part. also sounds along the lines of the connection that SUNY BUfalo Med School found between teeth and the heart. but also sounds like a lot more than these things too.

guess the microtubules are effectively working to circulate good things in and bad things out in the teeth.

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