Dr. Stoll,
Read your reply to DB about the bad side effects to Zyban. You reccommeded reading and talking to your doctor. Well I had all of the worse side effects Zyban could offer (neuroticism) and my doctor did not nor still will not believe the drug did this to me. If it wasn't for a friend who had had a similar experience and had luckly (after 6 tries) found a doctor that understood the medication, I would be institutionalized or worse. My point is that doctors don't always know what's going on and that's scary. My experience taught me to not only to rely on doctors, medical information, but on those who have also taken what you are taking. The latter seems to be the best, especially when serious complications arise.
In Reply to: Bad Effects of Zyban and Doctors "Lack" of knowledge posted by Debby on June 04, 1998 at 11:02:15:
Dear Debbie,
You are TOTALLY right. The only reason Imentioned it is to help point up another thing the docs get away with by maintaining the monopoly. The reason this is on prescription only is that docs are supposed to do a complete workup BEFORE prescribing the drug so they will KNOW what kind of complications that person is likely to have before prescribing it. If THAT is done right , the prescribing doc is the only one who can reliably tell the person what they may experience from THAT drug.
I ALWAYS urge people to be sure to read the package insert (or the PDR listing in the library) BEFORE buying any prescription drug. That way you can partially bypass the irresponsible doc.
Docs can make a lot more money writing prescriptions (only spending a few minutes with the patient) than doing the recommended workups and education. Without a monopoly, docs could never get away with sloppy work like this.
Thanks, Walt
Dear Dr. Stoll,
I am a first year college student. Last November I experienced my first anxiety attack. Since then I have made several trips to the emergency room with repeated attacks. I carry Ativan and Levsin with me at all times. Most of the time they work to stop the attacks, or at least lessen the severity. However, I still experience what I call "adrenaline surges" off and on throughout the day. It's driving me nuts!
My roommate's mother gave me a copy of your book. I've read it through twice. I am trying to practice skilled relaxation, but it's hard to sit still when the adrenaline ebbs and flows. Is there any way to calm the hypothalamus long enough to persue the path of wellness?
Sincerely,
Carol
In Reply to: Anxiety Attacks posted by Carol on June 06, 1998 at 23:15:55:
Dear Carol,
In his book, Dr. Stoll seems to be suggesting magnesium deficiency as a primary cause of panic/anxiety disorders (page 63). Maybe he could comment on this in the bulletin board. Have you considered trying it? I have recently seen medline references that seem to show a relation of magnesium deficiency to panic attacks in humans also.
I too have experienced a few panic attacks in my life, and now that I know that I probably have had magnesium deficiency for other reasons, I am amazed that the deficiency can explain the panic disorder as well. good luck
In Reply to: Anxiety Attacks posted by Carol on June 06, 1998 at 23:15:55:
Carol,
I doubt than anyone who has not experienced a full blown anxiety attack can really appreciate what the big deal is.
I once witnessed an automobile accident. This drunk clown jumped the curb and wrapped his car around a telephone pole. I rushed over to see what needed to be done. The driver was slumped behind the wheel, and his engine was revving at full throttle. I thought it was going to explode. Oh great, I was thinking, there would be a fire, and I’d have to try to pull him out at great peril to myself. As it was, I had to crawl in through the passenger side and grope around to turn the key off. All the while the engine was wailing, and screaming, and smoking, and the car was shuddering. I managed to turn the engine off, and the driver came to and was toted off to the hospital in an ambulance.
Anyone who has not had an anxiety attack probably thinks I’m going to say that having one feels like I felt during that emergency. But, no, what the anxiety attack feels like is the way that engine was running out of control. Only it’s your body. It’s like a blast off, all systems are "Go," and the systems are the same ones that activate when there’s something real to be afraid of, only there’s nothing there, and it’s FEAR in spades, and no rational thought you can summon makes any difference, because there is no comfort in the knowledge that you’ve had one before and it’s "only" an anxiety attack. You can’t get enough air, and you are trembly and can hardly walk. You are temporarily poisoned by your own body chemicals!
Forget dignity. You are disapproved of in the ER. You might have bad a heart attack, so everyone scurries around, but you haven’t, you’re "only an anxiety attack." They see them all the time, and you are a big disappointment to them. You are a "GOMER." (See McFerran’s recent post) You are given a psychiatric referral. Some of your friends aren’t too sure about you anymore, and worse, neither are you. I know you know all this. I just wanted to take a crack at putting it in words.
But, how did I get over these attacks? A wellness program takes awhile to get going, and these episodes can really knock you for a loop. I used conventional treatment to get rid of the symptoms (a tranquilizer, and an anti-depressant). For a period of several years, I went on and off them as the symptoms came and went. It’s all I knew, and all the docs had for me. Eventually other maladies came to join in *(GERD, achy joints, hypertension, weight gain), so we added blood pressure medication to the mix. Docs began to shrug, and their eye contact with me lessened.
I could see down the road that I would just be continuing to add one pill after another, be shuttled to one specialist after another, so I began to search the net, diet programs at first. Eventually I found my way here on the board where I’ve seen the way in which all this stuff in connected to the Leaky Gut, and the causes behind that.
Do whatever is necessary to reduce your symptoms, but don’t stop there. Use the respite to change your lifestyle. A wellness program, as described by Walt, should include skilled relaxation, exercise, and a whole food cuisine. You can find out about all these by reading this site thoroughly and reading the recommended books. Practice all three of these elements, and practice them well. If you do a god job with the skilled relaxation, you should be able to take a moderate approach with the other two.
I don’t disagree with Joe. In fact I was once a motivated and compulsive exercise nut. I was a marathoner and ran 60 plus miles a week. I’ve experienced the euphoria of runner’s high. For sure I had no anxiety attacks during that time, but it is an extreme life style, and over the long haul there was a downside for me.
I am also taking a supplement with magnesium as Tim suggests, but as long as there is a problem with Leaky Gut, magnesium absorption is questionable. If it’s a significant deficiency, you could go the IM route (give
In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Attacks posted by Jim on June 07, 1998 at 17:10:19:
Dear Jim,
What a perfect description of an anxiety attack! That's exactly how it feels. My doctor compares it to a moving train--once it starts, it's almost impossible to stop by oneself. So far I have been lucky with my doctors' care. They haven't talked psychiatric evaluation yet. What they did recommend was manipulative therapy for extreme muscle tension in my back and shoulders. I start that tomorrow.
Because of Dr. Stoll's book and the BB postings I've added a Multi-stress with Zinc supplement, two grams Ester-C, 1000 mg Calcium, and 2mg magnesium aspartate to my daily diet. I've also eliminated all carbonated beverages. I've only been doing this for two weeks. My mom keeps telling me patience is a virtue, but, boy it's hard to wait. I'm still struggling with skilled relaxation.
Joe also has a valid point--I am too sedentary. I'm more apt to sit on the beach and listen to the waves than run. When I'm not studying, I'm reading or visiting friends and family. My left leg is 1 1/2" shorter than the other which makes me less than graceful. I do, however, swim as much as possible. I also walk three to four miles most days attending classes and other college functions.
Thank you for your caring response.
Carol
In Reply to: Anxiety Attacks posted by Carol on June 06, 1998 at 23:15:55:
Carole,
My wife has experienced panic attacks recently (along with the many other symptoms Jim has mentioned). It hit out of the blue and the next thing we knew we were in emerg with two of our three children in-tow. I can only appreciate what you are going through as a loving partner, but it was scary from my perspective. I can only imagine what it must be like to experience.
I find the magnesium connection very interesting. I've read Dr. Stoll's book a number of times but missed the mag./panic connection. My wife also experienced pre-eclampsia which is a mag. defficiency too.
What I have learned over the past year or so is that the minerals that you need are all inter-related. Calcium will act as a carried for mag. etc. I certainly don't know how it all fits together, but you may want to try doing so more reading in this area. Try orthomolecular medicine in an internet search.
Peter
In Reply to: Anxiety Attacks posted by Carol on June 06, 1998 at 23:15:55:
Dear Carol,
Peter, Jim & Tim all have good points for you.
Since you asked, I would like to put in MY 2 cents here too.
First, it bothers me that some people have the impression that I am promoting intracelular magnesium deficiency (in relationship to phosphorus) as the most common cause of adult panic attacks. It IS a common cause but there are more common ones related to the same total body "bracing" which then produces the LGS that allows peptides to leak into the blood & "trigger" panic attacks in the susceptible person ("Brain Allergies"). One of the susceptibility factors may well be low intracellular magnesium.
Since increasing intracellular magnesium is pretty easy (at least 2 grams of elemental magnesium intravenously, 3 times a week for 2 weeks), I would do that first. However, in the long run, the only thing that will ALWAYS prevent a recurrance is a wellness program that includes regular exercise, regular practice of skilled relaxation (probably the most important of the 3) and a whole foods diet.
If you have trouble finding a local physician that knows enough to give you the magnesium, start an easily absorbed form orally & let me know so I can point you in a direction where you CAN find a knowledgable doc. The most easily absorbed magnesium is glycinate, orotate or aspartate. You will need at least a gram of elemental magnesium a day, orally.
As you get well, I hope you will share your experiences with the bb participants. Lots of people have your same problem & deserve to know that they are not being given all of their options by the conventional medical monopoly.
Walt
In Reply to: Anxiety Attacks posted by Carol on June 06, 1998 at 23:15:55:
Dear Carol,
It stinks, doesn't it? EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING Jim says about panic attacks rang true for me and my past (!!!) personal experience with them. I used to get them regularly (from mid-teens until I was 39); oddly enough, only coming out of deep sleep after an afternoon nap (generally) around 3pm, or late at night (midnight to 3AM). I can still remember that feeling of vaguely disassociative dread just before the onset of an attack, my pounding heart and the feeling that I couldn't get enough air and was about to have a heart attack, sometimes chest pains, my racing mind and the inability to hold on to a coherent thought, and the feeling that my ego was about to dissolve and that maybe I was going to die. I'd be crouched in bed on all fours doing slow deep(?) breathing and trying to meditate (the only things that seemed to help me get through a panic attack more "easily"), palms sweaty, and absolutely alone in my experience that no one, but no one I knew could relate to. For several days afterwards I'd feel like someone had beaten me up, as my body would be so tense and sore. To add to the ecstacy, the panic attacks would come in clusters. For several weeks on end, I'd be afraid to go to sleep. I found a doc willing to have me tested for 24-hour cortisol levels (cortisol is an adrenal hormone) to see if possible elevated cortisol correlated with the time of onset of the panic attacks. Was tested twice, but the results were inconclusive. At the same doc's recommendation I took low-dose DHEA just in case it might lower cortisol levels just in case I actually did have high cortisol. I did test out as very low in DHEA. No luck though. All the DHEA did was raise my testosterone levels and grow hair on my chin. And during my teens until I was 32, I was one buffed-out exercise fanatic babe. I was lean and gorgeous. Like Jim, I ran distance, ran marathons, experienced the endorphin-related "runner's-high", spent too much time at ERs being treated like a GOMER (Jim and Bob, that's such an accurately descriptive term of the treatment one gets), lived on Xanax, and wondered what the hell was wrong with me. Ultimately, a year on Trazodone (an anti-depressant which makes you fat) without panic attacks followed to this day with intramuscular magnesium injections twice weekly did the trick. I was panic free. Had I tried the IM mag sulfate first, I seriously doubt that I would have "needed" the Trazodone. Now, thanks to Walt, I've learned to stick to a whole foods diet, meditate twice daily for at least 20 minutes, take vitamin/mineral suplements, and continue with the magnesium injections, the panic attacks are gone, and I'm healing in many other ways. Yet another story for you to peruse...
Love, Kyra
In Reply to: Anxiety Attacks posted by Carol on June 06, 1998 at 23:15:55:
Dearest Carol,
I have panic attacks too. They are terrible. I have read that diet, exercise, relaxation and magnesium can help reduce symptoms. Also, I read that food sensitivies can bring them on if you have Leaky Gut. Most of the information that Dr Stoll writes about, I am finding all over. I think this gives even more credence to the advice he gives. I am amazed at how much he KNOWS! I don't know how he can remember so much.
In my journey to find healing from panic attacks I found some other therapies that were VERY helpful. Daily exercise can really help but it can take awhile to see results.
What gave me results quickly was the information in a book I purchased from a therapist who helps people with Panic Attacks. First, he gives you information about what is happening physically to you. The more you understand what is happening and that you are okay...because what you are experiencing is the flight or fight syndrome, the more you can gain control. He wrote that no one has died from a panic attack. This helped me along with the other information in the book about how people CAN and DO improve. you CAN heal. I did. I had such severe agoraphobia, I could not go to my mailbox. Last year I flew 2,000 miles to see a friend. ;)
I can give you the address of the book if you wish. You can use the workbook yourself and most people see a reduction of panic attacks. There is an 80-90% success rate with people reducing the number of attacks to 1 or 2 per year. If you add the whole foods diet, relaxation and exercise...well, then you should really see improvement.
This workbook REALLY helped me. One of the things I do is to repeat to myself over and over..."there is nothing to be afraid of." This is sort of a self-hypnosis technique. It is in the Relaxation workbook that Dr. Stoll recommends. There is a page on the site that has a short description of it. I HIGHLY recommend this too.
Also...another therapy that can be very helpful is EMDR. There is a new book about this technique written by the therapist who developed it. I found a therapist in my city who does this and teaches the technique. ONLY see someone who is TRAINED. There are many stories in the book of people who could not rid themselves of panic attacks. These were caused by trauma. One patient was a Vietnam Vet and another was a woman who lost her husband in a tornado. The process uses rapid eye movement to help the mind heal from trauma. I see it as being stuck in the trauma. People who had no time to deal with the trauma because they were taking care of others can often have post traumatic stress.
I have very serious trauma memories. This is one reason why I can not have Rolfing. My therapist recommended NO rolfing. Deep body massage will bring it up. The Cranial Sacral therapy brought memories too. With my first session I was SHAKING all over, but I must do this to heal. My EMDR therapist said this is 'fear'. I had a lot to be afraid of as a child.
I don't know WHY you have panic attacks. After all the reading I am doing, there can be MANY reasons and many different paths to heal yourself. I encourage you to read all you can and to explore the methods that give you results.
The advice and comments from Kyra, Jim and Dr. Stoll I have seen confirmed in many other sources. I have seen a reduction in my anxiety with diet change, biofeedback, massage (reiki and gentle massage), magnesium etc, but I know I need to do EMDR because of the trauma.
And another potent healer is love and feeling connected. That is one of the GREATEST benefits of this site...people reaching out with loving concern, sharing their feelings and experiences, being LISTENED too, feeling connected and opening their hearts.
Dr. Dean Ornish has written a wonderful book about love and healing. I recommend it to everyone. I pray that there are loving and supportive people in your life to help you thru this. The loving support of my husband and son were like vital to me.
I pray
In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Attacks posted by steve on June 11, 1998 at 08:47:02:
Dear Steve,
You are right! What you need is a smarter workout not more of the same.
ALL professional athletes now combine skilled relaxation with their exercise routine. This (done as imagery after the exersise) is much more effective thah the exercise alone AND greatly reduces the bracing stressors that make the exercise harder. It also reduces injuries.
You need to learn about skilled relaxation & how to combine it with exercise. You would get a lot more benefits with less effort.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Attacks- Other Therapies posted by Pamela J on June 13, 1998 at 02:01:39:
Dear Pamela,
Thank you so much for your wonderful letter. Your words have touched my heart. Sometimes God gives us difficult paths to follow. It is often through our most difficult times, we learn the most. God does this because he knows someday you will use this knowledge to reach out and touch the hearts of others.
Peace and Love to you and the others on this board who touch so many lives.
Carol
In Reply to: Re: Anxiety Attacks- Other Therapies posted by Pamela J on June 13, 1998 at 02:01:39:
Dear Pamela,
I would like to add my praise (and thanks) to Carol's for your wonderful note. I agree that there are MANY alternative ways to get temporary relief from panic attacks.
I have elected to concentrate on what is going to permanently resolve the problem rather than list all of these approaches---SO, I am glad that you did. There are a lot more people offering temporary relief than there are offering permanent solutions (that may take 3-12 months to have their permanent results). In the end, though, none of these symptomatic approaches will resolve WHY one has the problem. The place for the alternative approach to symptoms is for temporary relief WHILE dealing with the causes.
Walt
Hello,
As you can read in my subject line I am not doing to well. I have Insomnia pretty bad, bad anxiety, depression, Prostatitis and a slight genital rash that will not persevere after many months.
After talking to Dr. Stoll, I have gone to see Dr. Bolte who works with Dr. Leo Galland in N.Y.C. He took a comprehensive history on me and ordered an Intestinal permiability test as well as a couple of stool tests to check for parasites. He also gave me a yeast and mold free diet and some supplements including Flaxseed oil, a multi, trace elements and one other.
This is all after many months of sleeplesness, depression, anxiety genital discomfort and prostatitis. I have seen shrinks, dermatologists, M.D.'s and others in search of well being all to no avail. I have been given anti fungals, anti depressants, tranquilizers. You name it I have probably tried it. I am constantly tired and feel like my head is in the clouds half the time. I am socially a mess, I'm not dating and I have minimal energy.I am right on the brink of giving up.. I mean really just cashing in my chips.
I have been well all my life and the last 7 months have been pure hell. This is all mainly since my split with my wife. But my life has had many let downs and for some reason I am falling apart at the seams mentally and physically after this one.
I need to know, Am I pissing into the wind here? Is there a chance that I will be well again. I am so tired and confused that I need some support. I have not been able to practice skilled meditation, because I cannot clear my head long enough to. It's like I have brain fog. I have also not excesized very much because of extreme fatigue and anxiety. I spend much time at home.
I feel like if there was an asssisted living place that I could check into I would, I almost feel that I can't take care of myself anymore. The worst part is that I have a beautiful 3 year old daughter and just being there for her is a chore because I am not myself.
H.E.L.P
James
In Reply to: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by James on June 07, 1998 at 22:45:55:
Dear James,
I am glad that you wrote about your experiences on the BB. So many of us have similar experiences. I believe you can and WILL get better. Sounds like the stress of the separation has been very hard on you. I can understand that.
From the reading I have done about mind and body healing, many of these therapies help to turn on the bodies own natural ability to heal. The nutrition is very important. I am much calmer now after adding the oils and supplements like magnesium to my diet.
It will take time, but you CAN get better. I had some similar experiences with MDs too and I am improving.
I don't know if other therapies will clear up that mind fog but one that has helped clear mine up is Cranial Sacral Therapy by a trained person. I am now seeing an Oseteopath (DO). I had some injuries over the years and he said I DEFINITELY needed treatment and that it would help me improve. I have had two treatments and already feel better.
Another treatment that can help you heal is massage and accupuncture. Again, I read that these help turn on the bodies ability to heal. I found a wonderful massage therapist. She has a healing personality along with her gift. She does Reiki. There are many types of massage to choose from.
Another treatment I am looking into and reading about is hypnosis for healing. The therapist uses it to help turn on the healing process.
I am reading books by Norman Cousins. These are WONDERFUL. He was very ill with an incurable illness and he cured himself with laughter and high does of Vit C. It is a great book. He has written several about mind and body healing. In his research he found that the body has a POWERFUL ability to heal itself. We need to learn how to tap into it.
Another great book about healing is by Dr. Dean Ornish titled, 'Love and Survival'. Dr. Ornish writes about how love is a great healer - love and intimacy.
Having a sense of purpose, creativity, laughter and love are very potent healers. And so is the BELIEF that you can heal.
I hope this helps you. I truly feel compassion for your illness. I don't feel so well myself but I am getting better.
I am also doing Biofeedback. I just adore the therapist I am seeing. He is wonderful. He said I should start feeling better after 4 sessions. He is VERY knowledgeable about meditation and had alot of good advice for me.
Best wishes to you James and thanks for sharing.
I think the BEST action I have done is to READ about healing . This has helped me explore many alternatives and choose the ones that are right for me. I call everyone in the phone book that does that kind of treatment and then think about them for a few days and pick the one that seemed right to me.
I find that some knowledge about it helps me know whether they can help me or not and also to check if they have adequate training.
Take care,
pamela j
In Reply to: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by James on June 07, 1998 at 22:45:55:
James,
I could identify with how you're feeling, except for the prostatitis, of course.
Anxiety, depression, all over body rash. But, mostly, the "brain fog" and
unnatural, extreme fatigue. I needed naps during the day and I wasn't even
30 yet; it was so difficult to keep my eyes open. Every morning I woke up exhausted;
just felt like crap. I couldn't concentrate on anything 'cuz I was so tired and my
thinking was just so fuzzy, it was quite literally like being in a fog. Guess that's
why it's called brain fog.
I had these symptoms for a couple years before I was diagnosed with ulcerative
colitis. I'm not at all saying you're on your way to colitis, just pointing out
that the problems were intestinal. All the problems that my doctor has found
within my digestive tract are what I believe, in my case, lead to colitis.
Perhaps starting with leaky gut (I don't know which problem comes first) then
other things I have: Candida, bacterial infections, food allergies, deficiency
of enzymes and good bacteria, and a couple other things I can't even remember.
Also, in fighting this condition, I have many times felt like I just want to
check into a healing center of some sort to help me with this. It can be
exhausting and I have a 1 year old. When I get low about things I don't
know how on earth I'm going to go on and take care of a baby when it can be
so hard just to take care of myself.
I just wanted to share with you the similarity in our symptoms so you can
keep in mind possible digestion/nutrition problems. By the way, since I've
been treating these problems the fatigue, brain-fog ... all of it .. is gone.
Best wishes to you,
Peggy
In Reply to: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by James on June 07, 1998 at 22:45:55:
James,
You sound like you may have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).
Your sypmtoms are classic text book: fatigue, insomnia, & 'brain fog' which is the term used by CFS patients to describe how they feel. Aslo, many persons with CFS have a problem with yeast infections & sensitivites.
There are many sites on the net you should check out. Here's a few to try; http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/cfs/cfshome.htm.
http://www.cmhc.com/guide/cfs.htm
http://www.cfids.org
Good Luck!
In Reply to: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by James on June 07, 1998 at 22:45:55:
Dear James,
You demonstrate the truism that has been known by holistic practitioners the world over for many years: "the very thing that the person MOST needs to be doing to get well is the very last thing s/he will be willing or able to do".
For you, it is the effective practice of skilled relaxation at least twice a day for 20 minutes (not counting any done within 2 hours of retiring).
If you are so far gone that you cannot learn this skill, find a good therapeutic massuer who can do a deep, total-body, therapeutic massage, at least 3 times a week for 2 weeks. This will give you enough temporary relief that you WILL be able to do an effective skilled relaxation technique.
By the way, who told you that "meditation" was the best thing for YOU to do? Have you read the workbook I recommended?
The things I recommend to beginners on this BB are the BARE BONES of what will always work. Everyone (you have lots of company) tries to shave that "bare bones" down even further--hoping that, somehow, that will work for them too. They MAY even get away with it since I am recommending what will always work and some people will get away with less.
Have you gone to the homepage of this 'site & read about prostatitis? You need to have an orgasm at least every day AND do the skilled relaxation to keep your prostate cleared out.
If you still need information about WHY you feel the way you do, read Dr Pelletier's classic "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer". It seems to me that you are like lots of us, when we were just learning about this, still pretty disjointed about how this all works together.
I mean no criticism of your efforts. I had to go through the same confusing time when I learned & nearly every person getting well (that I know of) had to do the same thing. Go to the archives & read everything Jim has written about this. He says it better than anyone else I have seen.
You are going in the right direction but, as we all eventually learn, WELLNESS IS A JOURNEY. All I can do is help you see what will give you the most good right now so you can eventually know better what to do than anyone else (including me).
Please feel free to continue to ask questions here on the BB. If I say something is going to work in a month, don't do it longer without results---something is wrong & you are wasting some of your time.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by Pamela J. on June 08, 1998 at 04:39:06:
Thanks, Pamela.
It is just this kind of support that everyone on this bb needs at one time or another.
It IS the student of the process that is the most likely to get the most results!
Namaste` Walt
In Reply to: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by James on June 07, 1998 at 22:45:55:
James, you're in the same horrible mess my husband found himself occupying a few years ago. He's still struggling with insomnia, but getting him to use relaxation techniques is like telling the Gordion Knot to untie itself.
The insomnia and rash will almost surely vanish when you have dealt with the anxiety. You have just undergone the number two on the list of Life-Shaking Stresses, divorce or seperation. Number one is death of a loved one.
I can recommend help for the prostitis, however, based upon my husband's experience.
He has been taking a well-known and ancient remedy for prostitis that is a combination of three amino acids, plus saw pametto, zinc and other nutrients. This remedy is sold under a number of brand names: Prostex, Prostabs Plus and others.
The essentials in these preparations are glycine, glutamic acid, and alanine, which actually shrink the gland, plus saw palmetto, which is a urinary sedative.
These amino acids are so active and so well-known that in the late 70s two pharmaceutical companies lobbied Congress to have them removed from the market, so they could come back with their synthetic version and "clean up" financially.
You should see some results in about six to eight weeks.
Please take Dr. Stoll's advice about relaxation and meditation for your anxiety, rash and insomnia. I know you'll benefit from this.
Remember, it doesn't seem this way at this awful stage, but the Tincture of Time will heal virtually all wounds of the spirit, and many ills of the body, as well.
/Gretchen
In Reply to: Re: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by Gina on June 09, 1998 at 00:43:55:
Dear Gina,
Of course you are right. Depending on who you go to, you could get as many as 10 more "diagnoses" all of which would be "right".
However, the way to get rid of all of them is not to add another name but to learn how they are all connected and do something about that. That takes knowledge at a deeper level than even LGS & C-RS. One must know WHY they have become susceptible to THOSE.
That is why I wrote my book the way I did. People need to think in a different way.
Thanks, Walt
In Reply to: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by James on June 07, 1998 at 22:45:55:
I suffer from anxiety and prostitis as well. The anxiety i have gotten under control with out traditional meds. Listen to DR. stoll about relaxing. When I start to get wound up I make it a priority to SLOW DOWN do something I like, go for a walk, get pissed off and do a strenuous work out (be careful). I dont handle my emotions well so i must learn to get them out in a sane way all these things help me. Becareful your depression level can keep you from getting of your butt and doing something it does it to me. Realize you are special and get busy with helping yourself I KNOW ITS HARD. Im 31 and healthy also. For the prostitis; get on some sawpawmetto(spelling??), GNC has it, and take it every day, it may take a month to work, and then stay on it. The antibiotic Cipro also helped me when things got way out of control in the prostate area (bladder burning, stinging urination, butt hurting ect.) Keep fighting and dont give up remember you are special!!!!!!!!!!
In Reply to: Re: Insomnia, Anxiety, Prostatitis and Rash posted by Ross on June 14, 1998 at 12:09:44:
Dear Ross,
You are to be congratulated for your progress so far.
Unfortunately, your note tells me that you are just keeping your nostrils above the quicksand. As you age, you will not get so good results from what you are doing. THEN, what will you do?
You need to have a lot better understanding as to WHY you have had the problems you have had. First, read a copy of "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier. This is a book that was written about you. I'll bet that you didn't know you were famous, did you?
THEN, if THAT makes sense to you, get a copy of MY book (link on this page).
THEN, if you still have questions, write again. As you get well, please share your experiences with the bb participants. You would be surprised to know how many others are out there with your same problems.
Walt
I AM ON REMERON, JUST STATRTED, AND SERAX I HAVE A GEN. ANXIETY DISORDER IS THIS A SAFE MED ROUTINE. I NEED THE SERAX BUT HAVE NO TRACK RECORD WITH REMERON. I NEED ANXIETY RELIEF WITH OUT HAHG OVER.WHAT CAN I EXPEXT.
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll or anyone, HELP: depression/anxiety posted by DOUGLAS MARTIN on June 08, 1998 at 21:51:47:
Dear Douglas,
AT BEST, what you are taking might suppress your symptoms for a while, EVERYONE knows that they do nothing about WHY you have what you have.
If you are only wanting temporary suppression of your symptoms, you are on the wrong BB.
If you are interested in doing the work (learning & doing) that it will take to resolve this, write again & I will be happy to point you in that direction.
In the meantime, you might read the note 6/8/98, from Kyra, to start seeing that this is a resolvable problem.
Walt
I read a very interesting book ("Phobia Free") by a psychiatrist who believes that most phobias and other problems like learning disabilities are caused by dsysfunction of the inner-ear/cerrebulum system. His treatments include Dramamine, and other motion-sickness medication, and ginger. Have any of you who have been taking ginger noticed any lessening of phobias, anxiety, learning disabilities, etc.? Thanks for your input!
In Reply to: Need input from ginger eaters posted by Lana on June 13, 1998 at 20:25:36:
Thanks, Lana,
Oh, the power of the internet! I had not heard of the ginger connection to this although I was familiar with his theory.
I, too, would be very interested in hearing about this rerlationship.
By the way, the brain chemistry instabilities, I have been mentioning here on this bb for years, also cause the measurable inner ear conditions that the "Dramamine Doc" is describing. I have still to be convinced that the instability is causing the mental problems. I DO believe that they both are caused by the same mechanisms.
Improve the general brain chemistry and both disappear. NOT because either one is causing the other but because the same things are causing both. Time will tell.
This misconception is so well known that it even has a Latin phrase describing it: "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc"--or something like that. It means something like: because this is here it must be causing that that is also present.
There are even those who say that arthritis causes upset stomach: same lack of seeing the forest for the trees.
Walt