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Thanks Katie and Rich for the Kind Words. Max S. - I'm really starting to like you Sir, realizing that in order to have "Perfect Harmony" in all things - There must be Yin and Yang. I'm waiting with anticipation to see what negative comment you have to make about this Topic.
Colon Cleansing (CC):
I can't over emphasize the importance of CC - it's the number one therapy that will start you on the road to recovery - even Princess Diana (that's right Max - I personal knew her) regularly had Colonic's performed. I know that there are numerous opinions out there on this Topic - it's like opening up Pandora's Box. Please keep in Mind - these are only my suggestions - I'm not a doctor - I'm just relating to those that are interested - what put my RA/Candida into remission. Looking back on the many mistakes I made while experimenting with products and trying to decide which treatment to approch first - I would have given anything to have had access to this kind of info that I'm relating to you. (Get ready Max) - Dr. Stoll was the only one that came to my rescue and he and I are in agreement that - YES, we are our brothers keeper! Almost all diseases originate in the Colon - if the bowel is dirty then the blood is dirty - if the bowel is full of Candida/Parasites then the Body/Brain is full of Candida/Parasites.
Personal Opinion on the Colon: IF we were not living in the "Last Day's" and IF a certain percentage of the population didn't have Reprobate Minds thereby commiting "Unnatural Acts" we wouldn't have the AID's problem. The Colon is the body's "Sewer System" - not a parking garage (Sorry Ladies). When the Colon becomes sluggish ot stopped-up - our sewer system converts into a "Cesspool" of decaying matter that provides us with Cancer and every other immaginable disease. How do we detox our Sewer System? We must first know what the Perfect Bowel Movement (PBM) looks like (I can hear you Guy's thinking - first he has us Marching and Tapping - now he wants us to stick our heads in the toilet) Well in this Day/Age of most people thinking that conventual doctors are GOD's - don't you think that a person must be a little "ECCENTRIC" to believe in Alternative Health? The PBM is one that exists without straining - 6 to 10 inches in lenght - 1 and a half to 2 inches in circumference - light brown in color (unless your supplementing with Spirulina/Chlorella/Carrot Juice Therapy)- formed but not compacted so hard that it sinks to the bottom of the toilet - it should float on top of the water and "Break-Up" upon flushing. To hard (Constipation) is not good - To runny (Diarrhea) is even worse and Straining will cause Hemorrhoids. If you are not experiancing at least 2 or 3 PBM every day - that looks like I have prevously described then "You Are Constipated" and will never totally recover from your illness. What to do? Here's what I did: You first need to "STOP" consuming white flour products - mix white flour and water together and you have a "PASTE" that will constipate your bowels (the healthy western diet). There are 3 different products that helped me recover from my illness. NOTE: I do not promote any company's products - however, how can I help you Guy's if I don't relate to you What and Where to purchase the propducts that worked for me? Not all supplements are created equal.
Corrective-A (Ph:1-800-538-3988 - $20.00)
If your only experiancing 1 BM every day or so (It's know wonder your sick) then this product is for you. It will move a mountain and reteach your Peristalsis Muscle how to start working agin. take this product every day (with breakfast) for 7 days straight. Start out with 1 cap. - then increase by 1 cap, each day until you are experiancing 2 or 3 BM evervy day (The PBM is not possible at this point). You might end up taking 8 caps. - different people need different amounts. After the 7 days continue to take this product 2 days on and 2 days off for 1 month - "CATION" be sure to drink 6 to 8 glasses of water every day while Colon Cleansing or the program will not work for you (this is a MUST). Also after the 7 days - if your BM is still runny - add 1 or 2 teaspoons of Psyllium Husk Powder (PHP) (Ph:1-800-690-9255 - $12.00) until you experiance PBM - "CATION" PHP gels really fast - after mixing the 2 together be sure to drink a glass of water "FAST" to chase it down. Then after 1 month on Corrective-A - you can switch to another product called Fiberblend.
Fiberblend (Ph:1-888-999-8860 - $30.00)
Fiberblend is a Herbal product that not only cleans the toxic waste out of your Colon but it contains herbs that heals/soothes the entire Intestinal Tract. If you are experiancing 1 or 2 BM every day but your having to strain to get it out - then this product is for you. Take as indicated on the lable - except take the product first thing in the morning - followed by a full glass of water. Fiberblend will detox your Colon and kill Parasites. You can take this product for the rest of your Life if needed. I have taken it for 2 years and have stopped in between with no problems. Start off the same way - take it for 7 days straight - then 2 days on and 2 days off. If after the first 7 days - your BM is still runny - then add 1 or 2 teaspoons of PHP until you are experiancing PBM. Keep in Mind Guy's - adjust these 3 products until you are exoeriancing PBM 2 or 3 times every day and you will be on the right road to recovery. Don't be afraid to Colon Cleanse - be afraid of the toxic waste that has accumulated in your Colon since Birth. Am I worried about becoming Dependent on these products - NO - I'd rather be dependent on them than to have painful Hemorrhoids (like I use to) and end up with Colon Cancer. If you didn't have a Toxic build-Up of waste in your Colon - you would not be sick. "CATION" While you are taking Colon Cleansing products (you need to Colon Cleans for at least 1 year) be sure to keep your Nutritional level up (This Is Another MUST). I don't like a (all in one) Multi-Vite - they are made out of horse piss and who knows what - they also MT "WEAK" on my energy field. I take a product called "BEYOND GREENS" (Ph:1-800-223-1216 - No. FL-1171 - $30.00). It is a powder which absorbs quickly and coats your intestinal tract with green nutriants that Cancer does not want to live with. Remember - take the Colon Cleansing products in the morning hours and your suppliments in the afternoon/evening hours - not together. Got to go for now. Next subject: Colon Cleansing Part Two (Colonic's/Enema's)
In Reply to: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 13, 2001 at 09:30:35:
I like your presentation. I have lots of experience in this area and I througouly enjoy your posts. I do have one question for you regarding the colonics. Maybe you are planning to answer this in your next post.
Colonics, screwed me up big time and I believe I know why. I am wondering what you think of this.
I had a series of 10 colonics done. They were plain water colonics and at the end, she put back lactobacteria in the colon. She did this every time. But, afer a while, my symptoms actually got worse than they were. I was now eliminating "0" times a day. I was getting fierce rumbling, gurgling, bloating, gas and I was in pain. My next stool test revealed that my colon was severely alkaline. The doc asked what I did and when I told him of the colonics, he knew right away what happened. Apparently, the colonics left my colon in an alkaline state. The implant used at the end was not sufficient enough to colonize. Now...., She was getting the water all the way up my colon and NOTHING was coming out. I was 100% clean. There should be no reason for lack of implantation. Up until a few months ago I still had no explaination. Now, I think I know and I would like your opinion now. Lactobacteria WILL NOT implant in an alkaline colon. The colon must be acidified first. This makes sense to me and I am wondering if this has been your experience or if you even considered it. I found a special technique in which the colon therapist infuses sweet dairy whey (which has a pH of about 6.0 which is perfect for the colon) into the colon to acidify. After about 2-3 treatments (2-3 days in a row), the colon is clean and acidified and ready for implant. NOW, the lactobacteria have a chance to thrive now. I managed to get my colon pH back to normal by consuming large amounts of FOS, Sweet dairy whey, Soil organisms and Lactobacillius G.G. It worked but it was very difficult. What do you think of all this and did you find it necessary? Thanks for your efforts here.
Rich
In Reply to: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 16:01:12:
Hey Rich...I've been experimenting with fermented foods since your post awhile back. I've been eating yoghurt and curds fermented with bacteria and also saurkraut. I also bought some whey to soak grains and beans in. On the bottle it says you can mix it in water or juice and take it that way. Do you take it that way? The guy at the health food store said some people use it on their hair and skin. Ever heard of that? One more thing, while I was in Germany today..I found some sourdough rye bread. What are your thoughts on that? Is the process of making sourdough bread a fermenting type process? Thanks!
In Reply to: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 13, 2001 at 09:30:35:
Maxfield Stanton: It really wouldn't surprise me if he is a pathological liar, to be honest.
Rick: even Princess Diana (that's right Max - I personal knew her)
I rest my case.
But more the point, allow me to point something out. If a person's stool floats, all that implies is that he or she is a methane producer. Nothing more. Other than that, I am unfamiliar with the subjects you wrote about. Sounds good to me I suppose.
Carry on.
In Reply to: Re: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by Barbara on March 13, 2001 at 17:14:40:
Yes it is. I don't know if you need to do it yourself to have the same effect (ie: yogurt bought in the store as opposed to making it yourself).
Sounds like you are on the right path. How do you feel with these new additions?
Rich
In Reply to: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 13, 2001 at 09:30:35:
Hello, S.H.A.P.E.
With all due respect, I really think you should think about what you are saying. It never ceases to amaze me how insanely ignorant people are about homosexuality and AIDS. If you knew the slightest detail about AIDS then you wouldn't have made such a preposterous and asinie statement about its origins.
I really don't know where to begin. Are you implying that AIDS only originates from a "stopped up" colon? I hope you're aware that AIDS is an extremely new disease to plague mankind, but gay people have been around as long as history can document. What about all the women with AIDS? Druggees who got it through shooting up with dirty needles? Victims of unclean blood transfusions? I can only assume that you are making the completely unfounded statement that AIDS does not start as HIV. No, we do not have "proof" that it does, but we have a whole heck of a lot of evidence. That being said, I might me misreading what your true beliefs are. If you are claiming that the HIV virus(or even AIDS) ORIGINATED from anal sex and is now spread by the ways I listed -- that's one thing, and I am willing to accept your theory at face value. If I am misreading then I am sorry.
Once again, I mean this posting in all due respect. I like your enthusiasm, and I woudln't want to make you think your presence is unwanted here.
Lina
In Reply to: Re: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 22:02:06:
I have been taking a multi amino that is helping me a good VF
In Reply to: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 16:01:12:
Rich, I understand what your saying - they tell you to have 10 colonics - so you trust them - I've never done more than 4 in a years time - spaced a week apart which worked out great. I can see where that many would screw-up your PH. Your very knowledgeable about the colon and supplements to restore it's function. This is why I perfer to use the Corrective-A rather than Colonics - You have control of the process. I also believe in boosting the intake of nutritional supplements while colon cleansing to hopefully prevent what happened to you. Rich keep taking the Sweet dairy Whey and the Soil Organisms - they are 2 really great products - I'm very supprized that you knew about them!
In Reply to: Re: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by Maxfield Stanton on March 13, 2001 at 21:05:06:
It's good to hear from you Max (my Yin part) thanks for not letting me down! - you will be happy to hear that my lovely Wife is teaching me how to spell - soon I'll be as "Intelligent" as you are Sir. "Have a Great Day my Friend"
In Reply to: Re: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by Lina Inverse on March 13, 2001 at 23:04:11:
Hi Linda - Isn't "Freedom of Speech" great - Only in the U.S.A. - I really do respect your thoughts - I hope you respect mine!
In Reply to: Re: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by Lina Inverse on March 13, 2001 at 23:04:11:
Sorry Lina (had your name wrong) Yes, Gay people have been around for a very long time but the difference is - that Colon Bacteria has progressed into a more Unfriendly Environment -do to all the Drugs and "CRAP" that we have cosumed. I think everybody realizes that once it got started - There is "No Security" for any of us.
In Reply to: Re: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 22:02:06:
I never knew what wonderful resources I have here on hand till you posted about fermented foods. Since then I've done alot of reading, translating and searching. I realize now why these dutch people are so healthy LOL Almost every milk product in the supermarket is soured. I was wondering how they managed to drink and eat so many dairy products without problems! I live in a small farming community up in the north of Holland. Most of the milk products are straight from the farms. Also, there is little processed bread here. Most are whole grains with so many types of grains that I can't list them all. All are made daily in the supermarket. The gourmet bread section in the US stores is the normal bread section in dutch stores. You can still buy the grains direct from the owners of the windmills. Since adding the fermented foods, I've noticed I've had less gas and bloating. Before, sometimes you could actually HEAR the rumbling in my intestines from across the room. Sounded like there was a war in there! However, I'm still not eliminating the way I'd like too.
In Reply to: Re: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 14, 2001 at 08:15:42:
Thanks a lot for the reply..........My colonics (except for the first 3) were also spaced 1 week apart but I now know how detrimental they can be when overdone. I am planning on continuing the 2 products.
Something funny. I am taking a colon product called 6n1. the main ingredient is pyllium. There is also bentonite, apple fiber, oat bran, and about 30 other ingredients in it. It is very comparable to herbal fiberblend. I thought I would mention something and see what you have to say about it. Some colon therapists told me that they make a living out of cleaning out people on pysillium. I asked why? They told me that lots of the time pysllium and benotnite can work against us causing build up of muchiod plaque on the walls instead of elimination. They said, have you ever seen the pictures on the cover of cleansing programs that show a guy holding a big old piece of muchiod plaque that is all roped up and looks like rubber. I said sure, I have seen that. They then said, that wasn't muchoid plaque built up on the walls. They continued to tell me that that stuff NEVER builds up on the walls the way we think it is. They said that this "stuff" is caused by the ingestion of pysllium, bentonite and others. I kept that in the back of my mind but I am still continuing to take them. Come to think of it, it makes sense. I have seen videos of colonoscopies and the inside of most peoples colons I have seen were completely free of any residues. Have you come across this? Obviously what we both did for ourselves worked but I am still curious about this. Take care
Rich
In Reply to: Re: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by Lina Inverse on March 13, 2001 at 23:04:11:
Hi Lina, you should probably look up the research of Dr. Hulda Clark, especially when it comes to AIDS. She has a theory on the AIDS virus which I think is the most valid yet. Also, she has 70 patients that went from HIV positive to HIV negative in 8 days.
Her premise is, the HIV virus is transmitted by a common intestinal fluke. This fluke normally passes through the colon without ever completing its life cycle and the virus safely leaves with it. Now, under certain circumstances (most noteably, when the colon is backed up and transit time is slow), the fluke has an opportunity to go through it's entire life cycle and let the HIV virus free. Ok, here is the interesting part. Dr. Clark theorizes that the HIV virus can only thrive in the body with the help of the intestinal fluke. If you remove the fluke and all its parts, the HIV virus will just pass out of the body within 48 hours. It takes about 6-7 days to eliminate the fluke. Then, the next 24-48 hours, the virus moves out of the body.
I wouldn't believe it myself but I have seen the test results and interviews with the people and labs. I also know of another doctor who used her protocol and made 8 people HIV negative.
So, going back to what S.H.A.P.E. said, there actually IS a correlation between "certain behaviors" and AIDS. Here is a more detailed explaination. We are all adults so I believe we can deal with this. I will still try to be discrete:
One of the more common ways that the fluke goes through its life cylce is by having its protective coating disolved. One compound that does this is benzene. This is common in tap water and commerical products that we use every day including.........PETROLEUM JELLY and other products that people tend to use to lube up the area that doesn't lube up on its own. Having benzene go directly into the colon can cause the fluke to release the virus.
I am not a doctor so I can't comment on every case of HIV infection. All I am saying is, there are probably a number of ways to become infected and I believe that this is one of the more common yet misunderstood ways. Thanks Dr. Clark!!
Rich
In Reply to: Curds & Whey posted by Vince F on March 14, 2001 at 00:15:54:
nmi
In Reply to: To S.H.A.P.E again................... posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:27:41:
Great question Rich - I only know what I have personally experianced - Like I said - I had 4 Colonics performed - on the last one - lots of transparent/greenish looking rubbery stuff did come out. It really kinda scared me (eventhough it was a "Good Thing") which is why I haven't had another colonic since. I had never before consumed any psyllium husk products - so that kinda blows that Idea out of the water. Although (like you said) it did sound good. As for not showing up on the Colonoscopy video my only suggestion would be because the rubbery stuff is transparent and hard to detect. I'm like you Sir. - I will continue to take the product because it's the only thing I can find at this point - that will sweep the colon clean which is very important - don't you think? - Hope I helped.
In Reply to: To Lina............. posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:39:18:
nmi
In Reply to: I find this information very practical and accurate. Thanks! 1 question for you S.H.A.P.E............. posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 16:01:12:
Do you recommend the whey if you have a candida problem? I eliminated my yeast problem through diet and antifungals. Within 6 weeks, it was back (even though I did not change my diet). I had colonics done during the antifungal treatments and I was cleaned out every time I did one. However, I can only have 1 bm a day (in the morning). Perhaps my colon is alkaline. Should I try the whey if I have a history of candida? Thanks for your input.
In Reply to: To Lina............. posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:39:18:
Hmm, Rich, how can you say "most valid yet"?
In Reply to: Curds & Whey posted by Vince F on March 14, 2001 at 00:15:54:
Whey is a concentrated milk protein as far as I know. Curds, well I think of that as cottage cheese or curdled milk ("curd" led). Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
In Reply to: You are the "Kramer" of this board, Vince. posted by Marci on March 14, 2001 at 12:16:44:
gee, Thanks. I Always liked that guy even though I can't When things are going good i do feel Krameresque. I Just got a may day from my sister in the hospital with BTW..she Did know what curds and whey were. I Think...
Kramer F
In Reply to: To Lina............. posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:39:18:
Rich 1,
have you ever read what the virologist, Peter Deusberg has VF
In Reply to: Re: Curds & Whey posted by kmd on March 14, 2001 at 14:27:39:
I Think you are right. The whey is the watery part that Kramers..LOL An E friend calls himself that. What time does
In Reply to: Rich/S.H.A.P.E. - Whey and Candida? posted by Tina on March 14, 2001 at 13:27:52:
Only use whey when candida is gone. The lactose will feed the candida.
Rich 1
In Reply to: Re: To S.H.A.P.E again................... posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 14, 2001 at 12:45:26:
Yes you did. That product you are taking is Herbal fiberblend? I ask because that products main ingredient is pyllium so it looks like that this is not causing a problem. I will continue also. Thanks
Rich
In Reply to: Colon Cleansing - Part one posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 13, 2001 at 09:30:35:
NMI
In Reply to: To Lina............. posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:39:18:
NMI
bit that they say that the amino's come from Whey protein
and i am wondering what Whey actually is or from. I remember
Little Miss Muffet but never knew where she got her Whey.
I never saw it it stores and our milkman didn't have it.
Curds sound really Gross.
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To S.H.A.P.E again...................
Posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:27:41:
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To Lina.............
Posted by Rich 1 on March 14, 2001 at 10:39:18:
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You are the "Kramer" of this board, Vince.
Posted by Marci on March 14, 2001 at 12:16:44:
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Posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 14, 2001 at 12:45:26:
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Hmm, interesting, thank you. I will look up Dr. Clark for mor info nmi
Posted by Lina on March 14, 2001 at 13:02:45:
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Rich/S.H.A.P.E. - Whey and Candida?
Posted by Tina on March 14, 2001 at 13:27:52:
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Re: To Lina.............
Posted by Lina on March 14, 2001 at 13:35:01:
I Looked her up, and within the first few minutes learned the true story.
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Posted by Vince F on March 14, 2001 at 14:55:24:
stand Seinfeld. he used to be on Friday's and was a Riot.
guess that is because they have been and are SO bad at
times...
mom thought I was Dead and, In The Box... so she is Still
hallucinating and was pretty good when i called till the
very end... Wish she would get off those Dammed Meds and
onto Something Natural !!!
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AIDS
Posted by Vince F on March 14, 2001 at 15:02:36:
to say about the HIV/AIDS hypothysis ?? Also Stephan Lanka
has some interesting ideas about zinc & circulation related
to AIDS that I can believe at least the zinc/circulation
part.
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Posted by Vince F on March 14, 2001 at 15:20:02:
seperates from the curd. my Mom had it Wrongeo. She said
both came from wheat. I Think she does know but out of it
right now. I hope she doesn't have me stranded in a wheat
field and a combine coming to chop me up in her
hallucinations now.
Seinfeld come on ??
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