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Hi everybody, especially Joan, Barbara,Jennifer, and Walt;
Tried to post this message last night , but 1st the comp. went down, and then when I did get started, a blackout.
www.metagenicsweb.com/index2.html is their address, When you get there go to DISTRIBUTORS. The distributor will probably be able to refer you to a practioner in your immediate area. They apparently don't sell these remedies direct to users, and maybe that is a good thing, 'cos they have 35 desensitising remedies (they are in 25ml bottles / dropper). Many of them are based on phenolics, and all of them need to be taken in specific quantities.
For practioners Metagenics puts out a 120 page information book, "Phenolic Desensitisation and Homeopathic Detoxification". It consists of about 6 parts:-
1/ 4 review articles; Article I is by Robert Morrow M.D. & Mark Johnson B.S.
II & III are by Robert W Gardner Ph.D(formerely of Brigham Young Uni) the initiator of serious research into allergies, allergens, reactants, ect.
Article IV is a reprint of "Neutralisation of Phenolic (Aromatic)Food Compounds in a Holistic General Practice; Abram Ber, M.D.,F.R.C.P.(C); Journal of Orthomolecular Psychiatry; Vol 12, no4; Regina." 2229 Broad St S4P 1Y7.
2/ Specific properties of various PHENOLICS, negative actions, and where found.
3/ Main section, description and hoped for action of each of the 35 remedies.
4/ Phenolic / homeopathic desensitisation protocol.
5/ case studies.
6/ Index of conditions and remedy likely to effect improvement.
I found Metagrnics by chance in a Health food store, and since then my physical health had improved DRAMATICALLY. At that time I had more or less given up, realising that periods of relaxation were not going to fix my life, even if they did improve my physical health. There is I think a paradox here, in that serious relaxation itself may stimulate a kind of distress. I find it much easier and more relaxing to get involved in a good novel. However I still regard this like meditation as a kind of escapeism (virtual reality?). It is not an end in itself, which is what I aim for, but very rarely achieve, alone.
Linda.
In Reply to: ME T A G E N I C S posted by L I N D A (formerly frog-eyes) on October 04, 2001 at 05:47:19:
Hi Linda!
Can you explain what Metagenics are? Just a brief summary....
What ailments have they helped for you?
also, interested in your idea that deep relaxation could cause more distress....can you expand on that? If that is the case, what do we do to relax?
Thanks in advance for any info you can provide!
Sincerely,
sk
In Reply to: ME T A G E N I C S posted by L I N D A (formerly frog-eyes) on October 04, 2001 at 05:47:19:
Wow, Thanks for the great detailed info, Linda! I'm glad you
cleared that up for me -- I assumed you were using UltraClear (Barbara, you were right!).
How long have you been taking these?
JoanNAz
In Reply to: ME T A G E N I C S posted by L I N D A (formerly frog-eyes) on October 04, 2001 at 05:47:19:
Thanks for the info. I found a distributor in Holland and hopefully he can point me towards a practioner here in Groningen. Arghhh living here is kind of like living in the boonies. Hope there's one here to be found :)
In Reply to: ME T A G E N I C S posted by L I N D A (formerly frog-eyes) on October 04, 2001 at 05:47:19:
Funny, my health improved dramatically just by doing skilled relaxation, the only change in my regime at first. I have to agree with Walt, I think it's one of the best things we can do for our health. It's been a Godsend to me.
In Reply to: Re: ME T A G E N I C S posted by sk on October 04, 2001 at 07:35:49:
Read what Centerpointe Institute's people think about this.
"As one moves from the beta brain wave pattern of normal waking consciousness to the slower brain wave pattern of alpha, then deeper into theta, and finally to the deepest delta, the fluctuations in the brain are constantly increasing. Here is the important point, though : these fluctuations give the nervous system input, or stimulus, beyond its ability to handle, the way it is currently structured.
In order to handle these fluctuations, the nervous system is forced to reorganize itself at higher, more complex levels of functioning, evolving a new structure that can handle the input it originally could not handle. As the brain continues to receive this input, the nervous system will continually reorganize itself, in a series of quantum leaps -- some at a micro-level of functioning and some at a much more global level -- until a new structure has been created that can easily handle this input."
For more on this read
In Reply to: Re: ME T A G E N I C S posted by sk on October 04, 2001 at 07:35:49:
Hi, everybody,
In reply various questions; Two years ago I was diagnosed / thyroid eye disease. Symptoms included, protruding eyes, inflamed conjunctiva, loose bowel, pre-tibial urticia(nettlelike rash), weak cracking nails, thinning malformed hair, gross perspiratiion, nasal oobstruction. I took carbimazole & propylthiouracil(ptu). Sometimes if I was driving I'd take temazapam(a sleeping pl). I did dot have radiation. About this time I started 25gms of 'C' per day. Then I got a computer, gave up govt. cert. specialists, and found STOLLS site. Did serious relaxation.
Subsequently I became HYPOTHYROID and had (still have) a low body temp (there is a 'cold body page' on the 'net.) and took T4. I also tried WILSON'S SYNDROME (also on the 'net), but after some imitial promising results, it failed.
Then I realised that I had a CANDIDA overgrowth, and of course a L.G. Anyway after reading a few books and looking at many 'net sites I wewnt on a low glycemic diet, took MYCOPRIL & GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT alternatively and of course probiotics. I never got better, 'cos then I discovered that I was reacting to an increasing no. of substances. I tried various G.C.Q's. (govt cert. quack) and alternate practioners, with negligable results. 'C' or ascorbic kept me going.
Then in April I found MMETAGENICS, and most of the time since then I have been well. I'm getting further improvement.
METEGENICS among other nutrients ect, produces a range of homeopathic desensitising remedies, some of which are based on phenolics, or aromatics. These are the substances that color, flavor, and preserve foods in nature. They are usually the instigator of negative substance reaction. We also react negatively to some of the hormones (proteins) that our glands produce. The latter are of course mediated by the HYPOTHALAMUS that's our thinking. If you relax they won't bug you, as much anyway...
I'm glad you've had progress Barbara. You are probably in a better place than I am (for your dis-ease), but even here at the bottom of the World the remedies are only about A$15 each, that's about $8 !.
Initially before I had a computer I read "Anatomy of an Illness'; Norman Cousins. I starte going to the movies, preferably comedies. It is a very boring book but there is some extremely valuable info in it. I also STUDIED "The Stress of Life; Hans Selye. He makes it clear that if we do not adapt, we die. I'm afraid that I was poorly programmed in my youth, and may not have the capability of adjustimg to life alone. No amount of Scientific relaxation, or reading the most gripping novels,will add value to life. I seem to just meet negative people, in my age group(50+). Anyway I thimk that is enough waffle for today.
Linda.
In Reply to: Re: M E T A G E N I C S posted by Linda on October 05, 2001 at 07:01:48:
LOL at "GCQ!" Thanks for posting, Linda (now I know why you had referred to yourself as "Formerly Frog Eyes). :)
Still somewhat confused as to which Metagenics products you are taking after talking with Metagenics by phone yesterday. They told me that they no longer make desensitizing products and that perhaps you have some left over from a couple of years ago?? Was I misinformed [i.e. have you bought these recently]? What is the exact name of the product(s) you are taking?
Thanks. JoanNAz
In Reply to: ME T A G E N I C S posted by L I N D A (formerly frog-eyes) on October 04, 2001 at 05:47:19:
Thanks, Linda.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: M E T A G E N I C S posted by Linda on October 05, 2001 at 07:01:48:
Thanks, Linda.
Your testimonial will help others find their way out of this mess.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Meditation causing distress posted by R. on October 04, 2001 at 13:09:29:
Thanks, R.
Namaste`
In Reply to: Meditation causing distress posted by R. on October 04, 2001 at 13:09:29:
Thanks, R.
Namaste`
In Reply to: Meditation causing distress posted by R. on October 04, 2001 at 13:09:29:
Thanks, R.
Namaste`
Walt
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